The Emerald Garden RPG

[puck]

it looks well

 

[Inquisitor]

very nice map

 

[deepstrasz]

Some icons look green during F10/game pause. They probably don't have their DISBTN version properly or at all imported.
Some abilities mention the original hero they are based on (Wind Walk for instance). Generally abilities are the game's but renamed.
Abilities aren't properly placed after learning them. They have a different order than in the learn ability menu.
They also don't tell what they do past level 3, damage details etc.
Died in Xenopolis or something and after spawning and getting past the murlocs again, some arrow came and instantly killed my hero. Happened on and on.

Overall, not sure how much this has actually been improved. Seems quite unpolished.

Approved.

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[Hasaginosasagi]

How is your day/night working?

 

[maxyall]

How is your day/night working?

It's usual Warcraft 3 day night cycle extended, but I created the custom DNC so that the night time is pitch black, red tint in the morning and blue in the evening. I also created custom point light models and scattered it around the environment. (The dark blue version said point light is also attached to the hero, mimicking the usual ARPG line of sight)

 

[Hasaginosasagi]

Can you share the script? Or suggest source of info about DNC for HD?

 

[maxyall]

Can you share the script? Or suggest source of info about DNC for HD?

Here’s the custom DNC file. It was made with trial and error so the value may seem a bit random.
Use this script to enable it:

call SetDayNightModels("DNC Emerald Garden.mdx", "DNC Emerald Garden.mdx")

To edit this DNC, I use the War3ModelEditor. Use the node manager from the drop down menu, and there'd be a single light node in there.
tweak the ambient light values in the Omnidirectional or AmbientColor fields for each time key. (I already laid out the time keys. It make more sense when you see it.) When done, save as .mdl
After editing, use MdlxConverter to convert the .mdl back into .mdx otherwise it wont work for some reason

note: if any point in the DNC’s cycle has ambient light set to 0, it will cause perfectly flat surfaces (like rooftops or flat doodads) to flicker with black shadows. To fix this, I had to tilt every doodad and structure with a flat top just slightly, by adjusting terrain elevation and setting their pitch angle to at least 0.1 in the Object Editor. It's unnoticable!

It only took about an hour to scan the map top to bottom and tweak these values or add small hills. I recommend saving this step for last, it’s totally worth it for the lighting upgrade. (If you don't want the hassle, set the lowest ambient light value to 0.1)

 

[Hasaginosasagi]

Thank you sir!(gachi voice)

 

[DarkePacific]

A visually stunning map, with attention to detail regarding sound and music. The dungeon crawler vibes are on point, and the Emerald Garden is reminiscent of Diablo. A few QoL improvements would go a long way to turning this great map into a masterpiece:

1. As stated before, ability descriptions need to be updated; they could also use a bit more creativity.
2. Some levels have hero points but no abilities to put them in.
3. Some items like orb of Darkness appear not to be functioning correctly and are in the game for no apparent reason
4. It's not really clear what the objective is each game other than to explore, and hack & slash
5. While it was cool to see, I for the life of me could not figure out why my warrior suddenly upgraded to a demon hunter upon reaching level 25 (and this supposedly upgraded hero now seemed to be weaker than what I had before)


In general, tie it all together better by helping the player better understand what they need to do, upgrade text, and remove unnecessary items or make it clear what their purpose is.

 

[maxyall]

Some icons look green during F10/game pause. They probably don't have their DISBTN version properly or at all imported.
Some abilities mention the original hero they are based on (Wind Walk for instance). Generally abilities are the game's but renamed.
Abilities aren't properly placed after learning them. They have a different order than in the learn ability menu.
They also don't tell what they do past level 3, damage details etc.

Overall, not sure how much this has actually been improved. Seems quite unpolished.

Thank you for your time. To be honest I completely forgot to polish ability description. I didn't even add it to my checklist, because I never read those description myself. I will work on that.

Also do you remember which DISBTN is missing? I was convinced that I got them all. I'll sweep the whole thing.

Died in Xenopolis or something and after spawning and getting past the murlocs again, some arrow came and instantly killed my hero. Happened on and on.

How did you get there so early? When you enter the Xelnopolis, the human faction (excluding the town - BUT including the town tower) will instantly become hostile. I should probably put a warning, and have a text popup to inform player that they turned hostile.

A visually stunning map, with attention to detail regarding sound and music. The dungeon crawler vibes are on point, and the Emerald Garden is reminiscent of Diablo. A few QoL improvements would go a long way to turning this great map into a masterpiece:

1. As stated before, ability descriptions need to be updated; they could also use a bit more creativity.
2. Some levels have hero points but no abilities to put them in.
3. Some items like orb of Darkness appear not to be functioning correctly and are in the game for no apparent reason
4. It's not really clear what the objective is each game other than to explore, and hack & slash
5. While it was cool to see, I for the life of me could not figure out why my warrior suddenly upgraded to a demon hunter upon reaching level 25 (and this supposedly upgraded hero now seemed to be weaker than what I had before)

In general, tie it all together better by helping the player better understand what they need to do, upgrade text, and remove unnecessary items or make it clear what their purpose is.

Thank you for playing! I will continue polishing the writing, and iron out the useless stuffs. Diablo is one of the main inspiration. But the main inspiration for the flow of the game is Fear and Hunger (for better or for worse) where path is unclear and story unfolds through exploration and observation. It can either be experienced as an ARPG theme park, or investigative RPG.

5. While it was cool to see, I for the life of me could not figure out why my warrior suddenly upgraded to a demon hunter upon reaching level 25 (and this supposedly upgraded hero now seemed to be weaker than what I had before)

You get to change at Level 25 because, in the origin cycle, the warrior died at the Arktarus Temple (you'd be near or above 25 by the time you reach the place) You can find his body on the ledge just above the starting area (with the ship). His specter is standing at the edge near the door to Archemonde boss fight. He can only be seen only if you have the Gem of Truesight, crystal ball, or being a seed carrier.
(I think i got wayy lost in the sauce)