Warcraft III: Origins (Human Campaign)

[The Nightmare Book]

Hello there!
I'll take a look and try to share my humble review on coming days

 

[The Nightmare Book]

Hello there!
I'll take a look and try to share my humble review on coming days

...And I had played it, completed it on NORMAL difficulty. Here's my walkthrough:

What can I say about the whole map?

• Some minor text typos persist, like the humble narrator's voice (I barely hear him through constant "Yes, yes" sounds) or "famrs" in the quest log;
• Balance is snazzy - I think that you have done well with it, I tried the map on hard difficulty and failed my attempt to finish it as fast as possible, while normal provides enough challenge for the first mission;
• For the first mission, I cannot say if limiting the player's town hall was good or bad since we had only 1 base.

Overall I found it quite enjoyable, "Yes yes"/10

 

[AkulaSubmarine]

...And I had played it, completed it on NORMAL difficulty. Here's my walkthrough:

What can I say about the whole map?

• Some minor text typos persist, like the humble narrator's voice (I barely hear him through constant "Yes, yes" sounds) or "famrs" in the quest log;
• Balance is snazzy - I think that you have done well with it, I tried the map on hard difficulty and failed my attempt to finish it as fast as possible, while normal provides enough challenge for the first mission;
• For the first mission, I cannot say if limiting the player's town hall was good or bad since we had only 1 base.

Overall I found it quite enjoyable, "Yes yes"/10

WOW! Thank you so much for the video! It's awesome! But now I'm afraid that it was still a bit difficult for "normal".

And now I know I have to make the voices lauder.
Thanks again.

 

[Evilhog]

@AkulaSubmarine Glad to see you taking on WC1 remake (I'm a big fan of the original, as you might guess). I've been in love with your trademark art style since your previous project.

I've played only a few minutes of the demo mission so far, but I can already see it's going to be fun.

Nitpicks so far:

• The map launches with Reforged assets if you have the game set to Reforged graphics in the menu. This can be easily fixed, since there's a switch in the editor preferences, which makes the user-made map use SD stuff by default (and you won't need to switch back to Reforged once you've finished playing the demo).
• The UI graphics are nice, but you can clearly see chunky square pixels from upscaled original art. No big deal, and not without their own charm, but see if you can smooth those pixels out.
• Voice acting - ...uh, you know, I'm no professional voice actor, but I believe I could make a decent impression of Bill Roper's voice (he's the guy who voiced all units and narrated briefings in WC1). Maybe we should team up? I'll send you some samples tomorrow.

 

[AkulaSubmarine]

Wow! Your attention flatter me. Thank you! I'm so excited. I'll consider your offer Maybe you'll become a narrator.

 

[Evilhog]

@AkulaSubmarine Hey, check your conversations box) I've sent you a few test recordings.

 

[deepstrasz]

Spoiler: comments

1. Would be nice for the "saved" troops to say something, give you some details of what they were doing/been through. Also, they don't seem like in trouble or hiding or anything but more like on a picnic or stroll. OK, those near the tents did but those in the forest southeast nothing.
2. Sad the captain wasn't at least a stronger unit hero type like in StarCraft.
3. No map ending scene to reflect on what happened there?
4. Next chapter has no intro cinematic, sudden objectives start.
5. noThanks isn't saved between chapters. Weird that the limit of selection was implemented but not the roads building dependency as well.
6. Perhaps it might be a good idea to have limited number of mines rather than cooldown based? It hasn't any hotkey.
7. Destroying the crate near the river/cliff edge, finished the mine quest.
8. The bridge doesn't play its build animation; it appears built from the start after the two engineers are in position.
9. Why are pigs enemies?
10. There's no danger for the villagers once they cross the bridge to the circle.
11. For some reason the Pack horse is teleported back in the base southwest of the mine if you move it in places like where it was first found. Doesn't happen to both.
12. Why is the catapult a ballista?
13. Scout drones? Ugh... Anyways, True Sight's icon is not passive. Could be made with: Button Manager v1.8.2
14. Should recreate the ore if the building is cancelled.
15. Different peasants can't build. Quite confusing and annoying really.
16. Land mines can't be used in the infiltration mission; they count as being seen. Proceeded to attack it not to lose the mission and the mission failed...
17. Sometimes the lowered platforms might not kill units in the boiling water; too many units on one platform could make them be teleported nearby on other platforms when the one they are on lowers.
18. Ugh, now Lothar is a full fledged Warcraft III hero. Inconsistency within the gameplay, not really fitting.
19. Helga has no hero glow. Could be simply added: How to add Hero Glow without Modeling
20. Not quite understanding, we kill Gul'dan? Also, Ogre Magi? Even more so, having necromatic abilities? Not quite lore friendly.
21. No proper ending?

A nice recreation overall, a sort of Warcraft III-I combination, however, with filler addon story without an arc or character development. Kind of feels unfinished. There are some nice gameplay ideas but generally, it's pretty much the same deal. Very sweet terraining though.

Approved.

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[AkulaSubmarine]

Spoiler: comments

1. Would be nice for the "saved" troops to say something, give you some details of what they were doing/been through. Also, they don't seem like in trouble or hiding or anything but more like on a picnic or stroll. OK, those near the tents did but those in the forest southeast nothing.
2. Sad the captain wasn't at least a stronger unit hero type like in StarCraft.
3. No map ending scene to reflect on what happened there?
4. Next chapter has no intro cinematic, sudden objectives start.
5. noThanks isn't saved between chapters. Weird that the limit of selection was implemented but not the roads building dependency as well.
6. Perhaps it might be a good idea to have limited number of mines rather than cooldown based? It hasn't any hotkey.
7. Destroying the crate near the river/cliff edge, finished the mine quest.
8. The bridge doesn't play its build animation; it appears built from the start after the two engineers are in position.
9. Why are pigs enemies?
10. There's no danger for the villagers once they cross the bridge to the circle.
11. For some reason the Pack horse is teleported back in the base southwest of the mine if you move it in places like where it was first found. Doesn't happen to both.
12. Why is the catapult a ballista?
13. Scout drones? Ugh... Anyways, True Sight's icon is not passive. Could be made with: Button Manager v1.8.2
14. Should recreate the ore if the building is cancelled.
15. Different peasants can't build. Quite confusing and annoying really.
16. Land mines can't be used in the infiltration mission; they count as being seen. Proceeded to attack it not to lose the mission and the mission failed...
17. Sometimes the lowered platforms might not kill units in the boiling water; too many units on one platform could make them be teleported nearby on other platforms when the one they are on lowers.
18. Ugh, now Lothar is a full fledged Warcraft III hero. Inconsistency within the gameplay, not really fitting.
19. Helga has no hero glow. Could be simply added: How to add Hero Glow without Modeling
20. Not quite understanding, we kill Gul'dan? Also, Ogre Magi? Even more so, having necromatic abilities? Not quite lore friendly.
21. No proper ending?

A nice recreation overall, a sort of Warcraft III-I combination, however, with filler addon story without an arc or character development. Kind of feels unfinished. There are some nice gameplay ideas but generally, it's pretty much the same deal. Very sweet terraining though.

Approved.

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MAPS IN GENERAL
The importance of a Description
Description Guide - Maps
Map Thread Guide
Map Description Making: Good & Bad
Map Description - Templates
Map Description Generator [1.2]

How to Add a Screenshot to your Map Description

ADDITIONAL NECESSARY INFORMATION

• A credits list in the map thread description is required where the names of the resource (models, skins, icons, spells, sound etc.) authors are mentioned along with the specific resource. It would be a luxury to have links leading to the used resources. Credits in the Quest Log would be appreciated too.
• A detailed changelog in the first post would be helpful to reviewers and notify fans about the newest implementations to your map.
• Map thread tags are important. Please use those that fit and not more or none.

M A P - C R E A T I O N - G U I D E S

Details

GENERAL MAPPING
A Beginner's Guide to Map Making
The Ultimate Beginners Terrain Tutorial
Advanced Terraining Tutorial
A Guideline to Terraining and the Hive's Terraining Section
Various Terraining Tips!
Basic Mapping Video Tutorial
WE Map Editor for Newbies!
The Path Of Proper Map Making - What to do and what should be avoided

MELEE MAPPING
How to create Melee Maps
General - Melee Maps like the Professionals
Competitive Melee Map
Melee mapping - The reasons behind common aspects of competitive 1v1 maps
Melee Do's and Dont's

PATHING
Pathing - Everything about it
[Terraining] Alternative Pathing Technique

LEAKS
Triggers - Memory Leaks and Custom Scripts

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BRO, YOU ARE THE FIRST ONE, WHO MENTIONED MY AWESOME TERRAINING!!!! THANK YOU, DUDE! If only I could kiss you.

 

[Shadowmanthegod01]

Are you planning on posting the orc campaing soon?

 

[AkulaSubmarine]

Are you planning on posting the orc campaing soon?

Yes, I am. I don't know how much time it's going to take me. I hope. it'll be something one or two months.

 

[SimonPlays]

I have played your campaign, on normal difficulty , and published a full play through on my YouTube channel

I like the idea of the Stormwind army divided into three subfactions but, the Engineering Corps seems to be way advanced. Is this corps actually present in the original lore of WarCraft? I'm asking because I haven't read any book, and also I didn't watch the movie. I don't remember the existence of this advanced corps from Stormwind. Is this your idea ?

 

[AkulaSubmarine]

I have played your campaign, on normal difficulty , and published a full play through on my YouTube channel

I like the idea of the Stormwind army divided into three subfactions but, the Engineering Corps seems to be way advanced. Is this corps actually present in the original lore of WarCraft? I'm asking because I haven't read any book, and also I didn't watch the movie. I don't remember the existence of this advanced corps from Stormwind. Is this your idea ?

BRO, IT'S AN AMAZING NEW YEAR PRESENT!!!! Thank you!

Don't worry, neither did I. I just was aware of the lore in general and took some creative liberty.

 

[SimonPlays]

Yesterday, I forgot to leave a rating.
It is a very good re-imagining of the Human Campaign of WarCraft Orcs and Human.

Things I liked

• Existence of sub-factions for both the Human and Orc forces.
• Changed the objectives and layouts of the maps. Instead of a simple 1:1 recreation of the maps from the original game, you will have some new maps and thanks to the WC3 cinematic functionality the amount of presence you feel into the story is definitely better than a simple briefing
• Drawn icons. For real, the icons are beautiful and distinguishable between units and structures.

Things I disliked

• The damage radius of catapults. Hated in the original game and I hate it also in this custom campaign. I understand that the concept of a catapult/ballista attacking should be devastating, I can accept when it hits a single unit not a group of units that near from each other. As stated at the beginning, this is a feature from the original game and it is replicated in this custom campaign, but I honestly prefer to avoid such high damage output.

Overall, it is a really good custom campaign and I recommend it .

 

[w3maniac]

Looks like I'm stuck here? What am I supposed to do now?

 

[AkulaSubmarine]

Looks like I'm stuck here? What am I supposed to do now?
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You must destroy the red power generator on the previous level: