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Melee Mapping Contest #4 - 2v2

Discussion in 'The Arena' started by mafe, Mar 13, 2019.

  1. mafe

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    MELEE MAPPING CONTEST #4

    Create a 2v2 melee map that excels in balance, terrain and creativity, while being suitable for Warcraft III Reforged.

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    • No submission may violate any of the site rules.
    • If a submission does not follow the map submission rules the creator will be disqualified.
    • All submissions must follow the current theme. If any submission does not fit, a moderator will tell you as soon as possible as to avoid confusion.
      • You must submit your entry before the deadline. To submit your final entry, you must upload the entry's contents as a bundle in the Maps Section, and link to that bundle in this thread confirming the submission.
      • Several screenshots of terrain and gameplay.
      • The file in the appropriate format.
    • You must show at least one unfinished preview of your submission, before the deadline, as proof that it’s yours.
    • Your submission may not be started/made before the official launch of the contest.
    • Judges may not participate.
    • Your final submission must be bug free.
    • Teamwork is allowed under following conditions: Up to two people may work jointly on a contest submission. If you want to enter as a team, both participants must state this in the contest thread.
      • Prize money will be evenly shared between both mappers.
      • Finding testers to help you with your submission is not considered teamwork.
      • You can participate either in one team or as a single contestant.
    • No custom imports are allowed.
    • Triggers are not allowed.
    • Only one entry per contestant or team.
    • For melee maps, any gameplay altering data may not be changed. (No custom units/spells/buffs. Destructibles/objects may be changed, however we would highly apreciate, if you wouldn't do so.)
    • To participate in this contest, register by stating your intention in this thread. There will be a limit of 25 submissions. A list of registered participants will be available in the post below this one. Please also leave a note if you know that won't be able to finish your map in time, so that your spot can be taken by someone else instead.
    • In the public poll that will decide a part of the overall score, you are not allowed to vote for your own submission.
    • Please also consider the FAQ in first post after this thread.

    Breaking any of these rules may lead to punishment in the judgement score, up to disqualification from the contest, depending on the weight of the issue. In case of doubts towards a certain rule you are very encouraged to discuss it in the contest thread so others and judges may help with sorting it out.

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    • 1st place: 50 reputation points and €50 through paypal.
    • 2nd place: 30 reputation points and €20 through paypal.
    • 3rd place: 20 reputation points and €10 through paypal.
    • Judge: 25 reputation points

    The three winners will receive an award icon, representing the winning entry.


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    Balance: Is the map balanced for both teams? Are the positions and distance between points of interest fair? Does the map allow the 4 races to be balanced? Consider balance when implementing the pathing, resources, creep camps, and item drops. 50/100
    Terrain: Is the map visually pleasing in mediums of terrain, doodad placement, and overall theme? Is the map repetitive? Is the aesthetic well designed but not overly obstructive? 35/100
    Creativity & Uniqueness: Does the map bring something new or creative to the table? This should primarily refer to gameplay, but terrain may also be included. 15/100
    Bugs: Scores may be brought down if there are bug-like issues such as faulty pathing, unusable resources, etc.


    • 80% of the winner shall be determined by the contest's appointed judges.
    • 20% of the winner shall be determined by the results of a public poll.
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    • The contest shall begin on March 16th and conclude on April 23rd, 23:59 GMT
    Assigned Moderator: @Naze


    Big thanks to anyone helping to organize this contest, in particular @Naze , @Mr.Henci and @XanderD
     
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  2. mafe

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    Participant(s) WIP Final entry
    1. @XanderD WIP ---
    2. @Mr.Henci WIP ---
    3. @DuckDuckGoose --- ---
    4. @Keito WIP ---
    5. @JaleVeliki --- ---
    6. @Ragnaros17 WIP ---
    7. @JamesWoW --- ---
    8. @Restor --- ---
    9. @Meerel WIP ---
    10. @Arrr --- ---
    11. @BronzeOregon --- ---
    12. @mmtt WIP ---
    13. @nightelfbuilder WIP ---
    14. @Khaldaiel --- ---
    15. @Rockstar356 --- ---
    16. @Knecht & @W3Sour --- ---
    17. @Abovegame WIP ---
    18. @Twilight --- ---
    19. @Nudl9 WIP ---
    20. @Blood Raven WIP ---
    21. @Imperator --- ---
    22. @eubz --- ---
    23. @Battleborn --- ---
    24. @sentrywiz WIP ---
    25. @IamFierce --- ---
    Waiting List
    26. @FranzVader_CZ --- ---


    FAQ:
    What is a melee map? A melee map is map that is suitable for unaltered wc3 gameplay. The kind of maps you play on when you go to battle.net and hit the "play game" buttom.
    How can I tell if my map is a melee map? Set game data to default and play your map. When you have all 8 heroes in the tavern, your map is fine. Alternatively, when you open your map in the World Editor, there is a small text in the bottom right which says Melee map: Yes or No. If you hover your mouse over this text, it will give indicators your why your map is not considered a melee map. Sometimes (for example, if you open a map that has been created in an World Editor with a different language setting), it will still say it isnt a melee map, but will nevertheless work as a default melee map.
    Why this restrictive setting? I could just make sure it is a melee map by setting game datat to "Melee (latest patch)"? @Kam has stated before that in order to be considered for Battle.net, melee maps should satisfy the "Melee Map: Yes" condition, see here: Melee Mapping Contest #2 - 1 vs 1 . So this condition is set to ensure all maps entries will satisfy this condition, as the dream of almost all melee mappers is to have their maps adopted by blizzard. If you are not happy with this, then unfortunately this contest is not for you, but nothing prevents you from uploading and sharing your map anyway.
    Why doesnt the contest start right away? Participants shall have enough time to consider if they want to work as a team and talk to potential partners without missing time during which they could be working on their maps. Also during the previous melee mapping contests, there have always been some questions about rules and other stuff which should better be answered before the contest itself begins.
    Please define "2v2 map". For this contest, maps shall be rated with respect to how suitable they are for 2v2. If your map is also playable for other game modes such as 1v1, FFA,... is not relevant for this contest, neither positively nor negatively.
    What does "ready for reforged mean"? While I'm not entirely sure where I heard it, but if I remember correctly a blizzard employee said that maps using only data that is included in the World Editor by default can be ported to Reforged without any problems. This seems to imply that if you import resources for your map, this might cause issues with respect to porting the map to Reforged.
    Why the limit of participants? It is to limit the number of submissions that the judges will have to review, as these reviews will take a lot of time if taken seriously, and the judges are doing this in their own free time. However, if it is foreseeable that there is much greater interest in this contest than anticipated, this topic can be discussed further.
    Any further explanations about teamwork? There are probably some issues if someone tries to insist on a very "creative" interpretation of the rules. Please try to be reasonable. Other than that, it would of course be good idea to find teams of people who complement each other well, for example an experienced player (with little mapping experience, but knowledge about gameplay and balance) and an experienced mapper (who already knows some tricks about the editor, but maybe isnt playing too much).
    Why am I not added to the list of participants? For some reason, sometimes comments dont show up immediately for. If I missed your post about joining the contest, please post again or send a direct message to me.
     
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  3. Chaosy

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    So explain to a melee ultra scrub like me what exactly defines a melee map.

    I do not have much interest in melee itself, though I could see it as a terraining challenge and just slap some melee gameplay on top when I am done.
    So for my purposes I would most likely import a lot of doodad models but make sure to not make a single custom doodad and just modify the model of existing stuff.

    Would this technically count?

    edit: above post kinda explains it.
     
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  4. XanderD

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    count me in!
     
  5. Mr.Henci

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    Count me in.
     
  6. JamesWoW

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    my name is James and I would like to participate
     
  7. DuckDuckGoose

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    Count me in as well
     
  8. Keito

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    Sign me up scotty!
     
  9. JaleVeliki

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    I'll be joining the contest as well. Count me in! 2v2 hype lets go!
     
  10. Ragnaros17

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    @mafe

    "The contest shall begin on March 16th and conclude on April 23th, 23:59 GMT"

    Explain this:

    we can state to join before hand and you add us to the list but we can not start the map till 16 right?? or I am missing something?, because you stated that the contest was on.


    in other topic, please add me to the list I want to participate, I will participate as single contestant (because of RL times).
     
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  11. mafe

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    This is correct. Iirc it has been like this at the previous contests too. Also please read the FAQ regaring this topic.
     
  12. Ragnaros17

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    great!

    the pre-start joining confused me, yeah it was in the FAQ, I miss it, thanks for explain.
     
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    i would like to participate :)
     
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    I'm in
     
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    I too, shall join.
     
  17. nightelfbuilder

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    count me in and i swear i'll finish my entry this time lol although i'm scared of the no import part but i'll try to be creative with what vanilla models lol.
     
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    Count me in. I still can't deside what tileset i will use last time it was easy but now i have no idea.
     
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    Count me in too !
     
  20. Rockstar356

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    I would like to participate!
    I will give the best of me for this one :wthumbsup: