Memories steer... We heed.

That was quite an... Unusual ride, actually.
I expected something human-like and pretty standard, but crossover between Roman Empire style, Void creatures from World of Warcraft, and Void from Starcraft 2 (and perhaps something else) - it really served well.
Quite sad that no one wants to share their opinion on that unusual race, so I will be first, and I hope not the last

Overall, in terms of balance, I fought against 3(2) normal AI (and sadly, this race has no AI-supported enemy - maybe you can take a look at @Wa666r's solutions, where AI plays a similar race, but tweaked to remove special mechanics like building from buildings - keeping everything else intact) and I felt myself in strange position - maybe If not my allies, I could die in the first moments of enemy assault: but doing some upgrades, and still grasping to understand how devour mechanic work, I managed to defeat AI enemies without any issue.

In aesthetic terms - building from the main building is unusual, and sometimes I didn't understand where exactly I cannot built. Is it related to the distance between the building point and the main building, or between the building point and the nearby pylon?

As a result, I liked this race.
Memories steer (serve?) / We heed.

The Nightmare Book said:

Memories steer... We heed.

That was quite an... Unusual ride, actually.
I expected something human-like and pretty standard, but crossover between Roman Empire style, Void creatures from World of Warcraft, and Void from Starcraft 2 (and perhaps something else) - it really served well.
Quite sad that no one wants to share their opinion on that unusual race, so I will be first, and I hope not the last

Overall, in terms of balance, I fought against 3(2) normal AI (and sadly, this race has no AI-supported enemy - maybe you can take a look at @Wa666r's solutions, where AI plays a similar race, but tweaked to remove special mechanics like building from buildings - keeping everything else intact) and I felt myself in strange position - maybe If not my allies, I could die in the first moments of enemy assault: but doing some upgrades, and still grasping to understand how devour mechanic work, I managed to defeat AI enemies without any issue.

In aesthetic terms - building from the main building is unusual, and sometimes I didn't understand where exactly I cannot built. Is it related to the distance between the building point and the main building, or between the building point and the nearby pylon?

As a result, I liked this race.
Memories steer (serve?) / We heed.

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Thank you for again reviewing one of my maps

The build radius for the main structure is 900, while pylons have a build radius of 500. These radii can overlap or remain separate, depending on placement. Ground corruption is purely a visual indicator showing where structures may be built and does not represent actual terrain transformation. Differences in ground elevation can distort the player’s perception of the build range, making the limits appear inconsistent. Pylons may be constructed anywhere, regardless of corruption visuals or proximity to the main structure.

The recommended initial build order is as follows: Altar, Beckoning Stone, two Shadows for mining, Shade Spring, Phase Stone for lumber, the first hero (Legate) to improve early-game survivability, and then the shop. Pylons should be constructed as the population cap is approached. Advancing to the next tier increases Rift population production by five.

The Devour mechanic centers on the unit ability Absorb Essence, which requires Essences (The Glowing Orbs on the ground) to be devoured in order to activate its effect. Essences are dropped by organic units belonging to Legio Umbrae from any player, as well as by void creeps. In addition, the Shade Spring periodically spawns Essences, and an Essence item purchased from the shop can spawn three Essences at once.
It is recommended to buy Essences from the shop whenever possible, as they greatly enhance in-combat sustain and battle healing.

I'll look into making an AI.

PS. I got another new race uploaded The Goblin Conglomerate

A nice mix of or inspiration from zerg and protoss to name a few.
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I really like this map .The music is very cool ,tone of colours are beautiful and different ,your new unit very creative ,but it so hard to watch and when I exit game it has problem and hang .

What if Rome conquered the Void... Anyway, the mechanics are not bad at all. I am still making a new custom Human race, based on this. BTW, 10/10.

Superfrycook said:

What if Rome conquered the Void... Anyway, the mechanics are not bad at all. I am still making a new custom Human race, based on this. BTW, 10/10.

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Thanks for the showcase. Watching people play my races gives insight for things that need improvement. Working more races, nice. I still got backlog maps of yours to play.

Hi, I would like to let you know that the upgrade for the shadow infernal is bugged. There's no infernal being dropped when the research finished, instead there's some dummy units found on where the infernal should have landed.

Daffa said:

Hi, I would like to let you know that the upgrade for the shadow infernal is bugged. There's no infernal being dropped when the research finished, instead there's some dummy units found on where the infernal should have landed.

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Fixed. Thanks for the heads up, that was weird. That was the first trigger I created for the map, and it was working during testing. I noticed that similar triggers in my other maps stopped working as well. I think that the last WC3 update messed with the ability orders for triggers.

Letting you know I also did a run with the previous version, though I think I'll make another run with infernal surprises next


It will be available for public in 2 hours from when I posted this message

Daffa said:

Letting you know I also did a run with the previous version, though I think I'll make another run with infernal surprises next

It will be available for public in 2 hours from when I posted this message

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Thank you

Looked like you doing everything about the way i intended the faction to be played.
Addressing what you mentioned in the video description.

1. The hotkey were assigned to QWER-ASDF-ZXCV with grid option being set in settings
2. Mid game unit composition is important, having 2 or 3 Forgotten Centurions improves the viability of other units when their togglable passive is on and their frost abilities slowing enemies. Having the Legate as the first hero is my recommendation as he helps with early game survivability.
2. Just updated map, you can make your infernal

The few thing regarding ability use:
1. When using the Legate's ward ability place it at front of battle were the melee units are as they usually take the most damage. it seemed like you were using it like a healing ward.
2. The catatraps charge ability it recommended to target units behind others as the its leaves a burning line across the distance it travels that damages units in it and that pass through it. the catatraps passes through other units when using the ability.

1. Regarding hotkeys, yeah, I noticed when I started checking Reforged hotkey settings that a grid option now exist. I will try that on next run, though I am still get confused whenever I use A for attack ends with patrol ah, muscle memory I still have a lot of unit micro management issue during the play, but so far I am liking this faction playstyle. I personally prefer Autarch over Legate for starting after knowing Autarch aura
2. Thank you for the update

As for the ability use:
1. Yeah, I am still thinking of the ward like healing ward because I'm scared of losing it fast. I'll try to place it centered around the front line
2. I found this unit very late into the game and didn't give much thought to the ability since it's basically a win at that point with enemies crippled. Now that I think about it again, this unit would have solved a lot of my early team fights at the bridge

Thank you for such an amazing work! It is very refreshing and I like this faction!

Daffa said:

1. Regarding hotkeys, yeah, I noticed when I started checking Reforged hotkey settings that a grid option now exist. I will try that on next run, though I am still get confused whenever I use A for attack ends with patrol ah, muscle memory I still have a lot of unit micro management issue during the play, but so far I am liking this faction playstyle. I personally prefer Autarch over Legate for starting after knowing Autarch aura
2. Thank you for the update

As for the ability use:
1. Yeah, I am still thinking of the ward like healing ward because I'm scared of losing it fast. I'll try to place it centered around the front line
2. I found this unit very late into the game and didn't give much thought to the ability since it's basically a win at that point with enemies crippled. Now that I think about it again, this unit would have solved a lot of my early team fights at the bridge

Thank you for such an amazing work! It is very refreshing and I like this faction!

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Thanks again. Still do the same with the attack key. Before Reforged had customized the hotkeys to the grid, you were able to change the button locations with a text file. I changed the button positions; attack was on A and stop was on S.

Feel free to play my custom races I have another 9.

Extremely cool race idea and design. Just missing 1-2 more units. Also that Naga kind of made sense thematic-wise, but I feel that you need to add few of them to make them fit completely. I also feel some buildings look samey.

Also I must add that you are not going a lot of times through quality checks before releasing the map, I can nearly always find some things missing in it. Also, you seem to reuse same spell and ability ideas from one race to another often.

MogulKahn said:

Extremely cool race idea and design. Just missing 1-2 more units. Also that Naga kind of made sense thematic-wise, but I feel that you need to add few of them to make them fit completely. I also feel some buildings look samey.

Also I must add that you are not going a lot of times through quality checks before releasing the map, I can nearly always find some things missing in it. Also, you seem to reuse same spell and ability ideas from one race to another often.

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MogulKah, thank you for the review.

The roaster is kind of thin as I didn't want to use too many pure void units. As for the building I am looking into finding alternatives for a few.

I've started to notice it myself. I'm working on improving my triggering skills so hopefully i'll have more options in future. However after 11 races in addition the base for i have a hard time coming up with more ideas.

I like the result, good work man! 5/5+like!

You ever planning on making an Ultimate Battle-style map pack where you can play as all of your races against each other (+vanilla races ofc)?

Asking b/c I notice you mention Wa666r sometimes, and I know they have such a combined map pack (and their races are a part of Ultimate Battle too ofc).

I guess you'd need to make sure they're all well balanced and have AI; but you have so many races you've put work into; and it looks like a lot of yours use Reforged graphics, so I guess yours can't rly be combined w/existing projects like Ultimate Battle that don't; so it'd be awesome if you had your own equivalent.

For me, personally, those map packs w/a bunch of new races together are the main thing I look for in new techtrees. It's not super fun for me when I only have the one new option on a map, b/c it makes me feel like I always have to play it, and it's not super fun w/friends either, b/c either only one of us gets to enjoy a new race or we're both playing the same race. I just want to be able to expand my regular melee experience with added variety - sometimes playing vanilla, sometimes against one new race, sometimes against or with another, but with no one ever really knowing what faction another player will go for.

Would really look forward to it if you combined your races!