Solo Mapping Competition #3

[Kingz]

Using destructables with triggers can backfire

As you see (thanks to Anachron) i know that you can't put destructable on every single X/Y loc.

Problem is: Destructables can only be moved every 64px. So if you create one at 127, its created at 64, while on 128, its created on 128. This makes it hard to generate trackables on bottom of it.

I suggest you to put the destructables manualy and do the triggering with manipulations with the existing destructables.

 

[VergilThazaar]

My problem is not the potition, I could bypass that by moving the object below. My problem is the Dimensions and since there is no manipulating dimensions via GUI I cannot proceed.

By the way, thank you for helping me.

 

[Amigurumi]

so you mean the x/y/z dimensions?
just place a table with your dimensions, hide it, and when it should be seen,
unhide it.

 

[Kingz]

native CreateDestructableZ takes integer objectid, real x, real y, real z, real face, real scale, integer variation returns destructable

Notice the "scale" parameter

 

[VergilThazaar]

so you mean the x/y/z dimensions?
just place a table with your dimensions, hide it, and when it should be seen,
unhide it.

I cannot hide it, nor create it 'cause there isn't any doodad manipulation via GUI. If I make it destructible then I cannot specify uneven Dimensions (X/Y/Z) only the general destructible's size which would make a huge ugly table.

 

[Kingz]

Use units then, change the selection size to 0 and add 'aloc' abilit(locust).

It will now interact like a unselectable doodadd, if you want it selectable remove the locust ability.

Now for it's dimensions use:

• Animation - Change No unit's size to (100.00%, 100.00%, 100.00%) of its original size

The selection size 0 will make sure it has no health bar above it.

But you can still do things to it, like break the table, push it or interact with it.

 

[VergilThazaar]

Still doesn't work... I guess I'll have to settle with the fire grates suddenly vanishing.

 

[NearbyHermit]

- I've been working a lot in triggering, since I'm better at that than terraining. So I've put a lot of things happening in one place without letting the player get bored seeing it. Although a problem stopped my progress. Is there a way to Create/Hide Doodads? (I'm using GUI) What I wanna do is, either create that table above the fire grate (on the right room) with certain dimensions, or even better hide an existing one. If not, mayby there is a workaround?

Why do people associate mystery with a haunted house?

 

[VergilThazaar]

Why do people associate mystery with a haunted house?

Who said it's haunted..? Because of the candles and the musical organ?

 

[NearbyHermit]

Who said it's haunted..? Because of the candles and the musical organ?

Those are just minor factors, the house itself simply gives that feeling !

 

[VergilThazaar]

Well, it wasn't meant to be that way.. mayby creepy but not haunted. Even though, I don't really think that will be a problem.

 

[Kingz]

I'm just worried about showing WIPs prematurely, and I'm also worried about showing too much of my project so that it ruins the story line.

Amen to that.

That is why i stoped posting wip, i don't want to ruin the feeling when you play it.
I want the first impression to actualy be the first impression therefore no more WIPs for me, at least not until i finish the terrain and aply the code.

 

[Crazed_seal2]

Story

Mines about Zombies that can think! The Zombies are in a nuked military base and have crippled everything, you job is to restore the functions within 80 minutes otherwise the zombie horde will awake from thier slumber!
The millitary base inside a metal dome which was built by the zombies to protect from further nuking, though the nuke did not cause the humans to become zombies, humanity had found a strange crystal that could can the effects of radiation, after many months of digging heaps of crystal was found, the soldiers went rebel and took controll of the base, so thats why it was nuked, but with the crystals, they were not killed but rather turned to zombies.
You are Sergent Brick, You may think he is dumb but he is smart, tough and awesome!

Mah map is coming along nicely

 

[NearbyHermit]

Well, it wasn't meant to be that way.. mayby creepy but not haunted. Even though, I don't really think that will be a problem.

Sure it won't be !

I was saying that it was a bit clicheed.

 

[mango]

it looked like someone was having trouble manipulating doodads with triggers, not sure if this problem has been fixed but if you only need to show/hide the doodad there's an easy GUI trigger for it: Animation - Show animation for Doodads of type within Region. You just make a region around your doodads and then use the string "show" or "hide" to make your doodads appear or disappear whenever you need. I hope this helps, because Destructibles are really terrible substitutions for Doodads

Also, I'm enjoying these projects! Keep up the good work!!

 

[RaiN.]

Using destructables with triggers can backfire

As you see (thanks to Anachron) i know that you can't put destructable on every single X/Y loc.

This statement is wrong. It works perfectly fine and you can place destructables wherever you want via triggers.

 

[Kingz]

@Rain

I heard it from Anachron and i completely dunno if that is true

Problem is: Destructables can only be moved every 64px. So if you create one at 127, its created at 64, while on 128, its created on 128.

I just know i trust him more than you.

 

[Anachron]

RaiN, why not try it yourself? Try to place a destructable at 127., 127. and check its coordinates by GetDestructableX() and GetDestructableY().

You will wonder.

Doodads can be placed anywhere, ofcourse, but not by triggers.

 

[De.Facto]

I'm just worried about showing WIPs prematurely, and I'm also worried about showing too much of my project[..]

Absolutely. Keep everything under arrest, until you're nearly done.
Others may work harder on their project. Just in case.. when yours
might be better. (;

 

[RED BARON]

Mah map is coming along nicely

Lolz for a story - reminds me of Red Faction in some odd way. Found a proper model for bricks?

 

[RaiN.]

RaiN, why not try it yourself? Try to place a destructable at 127., 127. and check its coordinates by GetDestructableX() and GetDestructableY().

You will wonder.

Doodads can be placed anywhere, ofcourse, but not by triggers.

I know it can be placed on any cords you want and it will be created there. I'm not sure if getting its X and Y will show right results but im sure it will be placed properly, cuz I have a FSI of my own and I have my dests set up using really small coords differences(like 5.5 range between eachone)

 

[krisserz]

I sign out. I have no:
-idea
-time
-etc.

 

[The Hegemuffin]

I'm sure that this is an irrelevant question for most contestants, considering that quality should definitely come first over quantity, but is there any sort of length limit? So, if the map took considerably over one hour to complete, would that be a problem? I know that one hour was only a tentative length, but I wanted to make sure there wasn't a maximum.

Also, on a related note, maps greater than one hour could also pose a problem for judging, given how popular this contest seems to be, so will that play a factor?

 

[De.Facto]

So, if the map took considerably over one hour to complete, would that be a problem?[..]

I guess not. You might reach approximately 90 minutes.
Just don't stretch it over two hours of gameplay. This is just a small contest. (;

 

[The Hegemuffin]

I guess not. You might reach approximately 90 minutes.
Just don't stretch it over two hours of gameplay. This is just a small contest. (;

Gotcha, thanks! Wait, sorry, just to clarify, are you judging for this? It's just really hard to keep track of this thread; I first saw it when it was already 50 pages. >.<

 

[De.Facto]

Gotcha, thanks! Wait, sorry, just to clarify, are you judging for this? It's just really hard to keep track of this thread; I first saw it when it was already 50 pages. >.<

Well, 871 posts so far. Isn't that easy to keep the point.
Maybe the Admin should create some sub-threads for this competition?

I'm not judging this, but imho I've recognized several discussions in some way.

 

[Kingz]

Syleona is the judge.

The judge for coding hasn't been apointed yet.

 

[De.Facto]

[..]The judge for coding hasn't been apointed yet.

Well, I don't really need/want one judging my prehistorical GUI-Codes. ;F

 

[Kingz]

There will be one.

Eccho perhaps, he is a good judge.

 

[Asomath]

De.facto, are you competing too? If so, whats your entry name/base story?

~Asomath

 

[Kingz]

Oh right, entry name & story...

I guess i should be thinking of one also, right?

 

[Sgt. Johnson]

*Dramatic Music*

I shaaaaaaaaaaall be entering this contest! wewt ._.

 

[Marcelo Hossomi]

I'll probably enter it...
Let's see if I can finish in in time

 

[Sephalo]

I know it can be placed on any cords you want and it will be created there. I'm not sure if getting its X and Y will show right results but im sure it will be placed properly, cuz I have a FSI of my own and I have my dests set up using really small coords differences(like 5.5 range between eachone)

RaiN is always right!

 

[RaiN.]

And now I can tell you that GetDestructableX and Y works just fine too after seeing i use that alot too and no probs with it.

 

[RED BARON]

There will be one.

Eccho perhaps, he is a good judge.

He (As he is a male, and it not named Enjoy, which I for odd reasons confused him with) have already proposed himself as judge Dunno what the result of it was though.

EDIT: Due to gender confusion.

 

[Kingz]

She (its she, as she is female) have already proposed herself as judge Dunno what the result of it was though.

I thought it was "he" all this time and i know her some time now

The name and avatars she use are missleading though.

 

[Eccho]

She (its she, as she is female) have already proposed herself as judge Dunno what the result of it was though.

No insulting... kthx

 

[Kwah]

Seriously guys. Talk less about judging unless you have a legitimate question, and spam less over-all. Talk about your MAPS, or I will start actually moderating this.

There is NO reason to have 60 pages with very few actual WIPs.

Maybe the Admin should create some sub-threads for this competition?

Or maybe you could all post less spam?

 

[Eccho]

Meh, I already spoke with Syleona

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

actually moderating this

Nah, not necessary. Though theres been a bit of spam lately, there has been genuine work going on in this thread over 60 pages - from simple questions to requests for opinions to WiP pics.

 

[real138]

right now ive finished the blueprints of the castle on paper almost and also the tasks and stuff that go with it but my scanner is down atm so i cannot post it also do i need a story? is that part of the grading? it wont be a problem to do it just a bit of extra time.(story is in my head)

 

[Pyritie]

I'm sure that this is an irrelevant question for most contestants, considering that quality should definitely come first over quantity, but is there any sort of length limit? So, if the map took considerably over one hour to complete, would that be a problem? I know that one hour was only a tentative length, but I wanted to make sure there wasn't a maximum.

Also, on a related note, maps greater than one hour could also pose a problem for judging, given how popular this contest seems to be, so will that play a factor?

I don't think there's a limit as long as you can manage to keep us entertained for that long

 

[Squall_Leonheart]

This sounds intresting, i think i would join, but first things first, is custom models, textures & skins usable in this compt? Well this would be my first trial ever in joining such a compt.

So i need ta know most of the detials. THX!

 

[real138]

all imports are aloud. up to 15mb that is. its a single player map. has to follow theme. cant request systems during the time for the project but can use resources submitted to the internet. uhm anything i miss guys?

 

[Squall_Leonheart]

cant request systems during the time for the project but can use resources submitted to the internet.

What does thata mean?
care to explain more?

For imports, i need to justify where i get it from rite?

 

[real138]

yup give credits to creators.
you aren't aloud to request triggers made by someone else during the contest. but you can use all spells and systems submitted to the hive.

 

[Squall_Leonheart]

to: real138

another thing 2 ask...

So if i were to use JassNewGenPack, World Editor Unlimited or any other third-party editors; the created map should it be compatible with the newest patch or not? Cause from what i know, WEU & JNGP maps are not compatible with the newer patch.

And also shud the map be optimized by an optimizer? or just leave it be...

 

[real138]

your aloud to use those.(not recommending WEU) dont optimize as they will also be looking at coding.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Heres pretty much the rules:
-You can use any model/skin imports as long as the original creator is credited
-To my knowledge, you can't use pre-made spells from the spells section, I'm not to sure about systems
-15mb file size limit
-Replayability is not an issue
-Optimization is not allowed
-Beta tests are allowed, as long as testers aren't judges or contestants
-You can use any third party editor programs, as long as you say that in your submission
-No teamwork
-Your final version mustn't have any bugs
-# of traps/riddles/etc. isn't an issue, just fill 90 minutes of play time.

(Checking the first post would be a good idea if you want to know the rules)