Mini-Mapping Contest #13 - Ghastly Realm

[PrinceYaser]

All your wips are going very nicely

Thanks!

 

[Chaosy]

Ghost murlocs!

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[Paillan]

I've applied some changes on the terrain:

WIP

So I am not the only one who though about alpha tile. In the end though I decided I won't use it myself. Your WIP reminds me of some final fantasy dungeon.

Ghost murlocs!

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Ghost buildings? that's new. BTW a ghost dock would also be funny

 

[pick-a-chew]

Ghost murlocs!

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Damn that's nice! Who knew buildings could be ghosts!?

 

[Chaosy]

@Paillan
Good idea.
I will do that.

@pick-a-chew
I'd word it as a fragment of its former existence or something similar. Not exactly a ghost.

 

[pick-a-chew]

I'd word it as a fragment of its former existence or something similar. Not exactly a ghost.

What kind of map was you going for? Altered melee? Sort of makes sense for those creep encampments to get trapped in some sort of afterlife

 

[Chaosy]

Sort-of-kind-of, yeah.
I wrote my idea here: Link

 

[pick-a-chew]

Ah did see that the other day but it looks like its been updated. Liking the idea, definitely has great potential!

 

[Chaosy]

@Paillan
Granted btw.
Made the pier spectral and made the lights purple.

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[Wareditor]

@Chaosy If you are going this way, I feel like the trees should be spectral too!

 

[Paillan]

@Chaosy If you are going this way, I feel like the trees should be spectral too!

Make the terrain spectral in that case :V

 

[Chaosy]

I have made some parts spectral. I don't wanna overdo it though

edit:

The Night Elven druids try to summon the spirit of Malorne to aid them.
However, things to not go as planned and they manage to summon his evil counterpart.
Ralle incarnate.

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Why the WoW model?
Because it has a dance animation I can play when I do the summon cinematic.

 

[pick-a-chew]

I have the story line for mine planned out. It definitely takes place in a ghastly realm, though this realm isn't parallel or overlapping to the mortal plane (if that makes sense). As such, i wont be making main characters appear like ghosts as this realm of the dead has its own separate existence (well, technically it exists within a shard of a sword ).

Bonus cookie if you can guess where i'm going with the lore!

Here are the unique gameplay features i have so far:

• Randomized waves: the order waves appear in is not fixed (and you will not see every wave, every game). Wave difficulty dynamically scales with both player count and current level.
• Affixes: the first 5 waves gain 1 "skill" affix, currently these include:
  • Raging: mobs enrage when below health
  • Regenerating: mobs steadily recover lost health
  • Veiled: evades all physical attacks whilst at high health
  • Exploding: detonates upon death
  • Reviving: spawns a spirit upon death that turns into a new mob if not killed within 10 sec

The plan is to add a different set of affixes for waves 6-10 (where each wave has 1 of the old affixes, and 1 of the new affixes) and for waves 11-15 (1 of the first, second and third set of affixes for 3 affixes). Basically to make the game increasingly complicated.

Currently i'm working a reward system where you are given a choice of 3 random rewards (via dialog box) after each wave and you can choose what's best. Heroes are non-existent but i plan to use a similar design in one of my other works where things scale by attributes.

WIP 1

 

[aschenzkimutech]

Cool, I love this activity. Can i join?

 

[Sclammerz]

Cool, I love this activity. Can i join?

Certainly.

 

[trebla ratilla]

i think i make haunted house for this contest. hope so.fire-up everyone

 

[Rence Kristoff]

I have made some parts spectral. I don't wanna overdo it though

edit:

The Night Elven druids try to summon the spirit of Malorne to aid them.
However, things to not go as planned and they manage to summon his evil counterpart.
Ralle incarnate.

Hidden

Why the WoW model?
Because it has a dance animation I can play when I do the summon cinematic.

I'm really loving your map!!

 

[Sclammerz]

Another WIP. Terrain is like 20 - 30% done. I think the fog needs to be more thicker.

 

[Paillan]

Another WIP. Terrain is like 20 - 30% done. I think the fog needs to be more thicker.

Now that screams "final fantasy"

 

[Marjosh38]

This will be interesting contest. This must be the same as terraining contest.. hmm...
EDIT:
Is there a map size requirement?

 

[Sclammerz]

Now that screams "final fantasy"

Only the model. lol

 

[PROXY]

Three little previews

 

[Rheiko]

This will be interesting contest. This must be the same as terraining contest.. hmm...
EDIT:
Is there a map size requirement?

Except that this is a mini-mapping contest which means the submission must be playable just like any other normal map. I don't think there is but if the size is too big, it won't be very convenient to download and may even increase the loading time if I'm correct.

 

[PrinceYaser]

Done some changes:

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[Rence Kristoff]

All multiplayer maps must be under 8mb, so they are playable on Battle.Net.

 

[Rheiko]

Oh, I missed that part.

 

[Wietlol]

I have a question, is it allowed to have a map more than 8MB, but still playable on (vanilla) Battle.net?

 

[Rence Kristoff]

I have a question, is it allowed to have a map more than 8MB, but still playable on (vanilla) Battle.net?

I think maps that are over 8mb which is going to be submitted are single player maps only. But I don't clearly know it.

 

[Rufus]

As long as it is playable, I don't see a problem with it.
However, if it would include a long tricky way of making it playable, you can only expect less people to vote for it, due to the inconvenience.

 

[The_Silent]

"All multiplayer maps must be under 8mb, so they are playable on Battle.Net."

Is one of the rules on the first page. If it is multiplayer, it must be under 8mb.

 

[Wietlol]

I am a huge fan of having the map and the resources separated.
The map only contains the code and the terrain.
The models and such are in a separate folder that comes with the map that you have to place in your warcraft 3 folder.
This way, I can have the map only contain some essential data and have high quality models and textures, sounds, music, icons all outside of the map. (Especially with models/textures and music, this is a savior for Battle.net.)
Battle.net requires the map to not be larger than 8MB, but that does not include the local files. So I can play maps with the largest filesize resources on battle.net without problem.

There are a few exceptions of resources that cannot be loaded by local files such as tilesets, scripts, configurations, etc which I import to the map with the Import Manager.

The only downside of it is, that you have to download that folder as well and have to place it in your WC3 folder.

So, in essence, the map will be between 1 and 4 MB and therefor playable.

 

[Rufus]

Well, this time, the rules is already set, and changing rules in the middle of a contest is never good. I forgot about the 8mb rule in this contest, which is why answered as I did in my last post.

This means, that in this contest, a submission like the one you described can not be accepted. However, since there is a way around the 8mb rule that may not have been used when the rule was written for the first contest, it may be removed for the next contest (I think it should anyway), but for this contest, no.

 

[Wietlol]

The rules state that a map must be below 8MB so it can be played in Battle.net.
My map, using local files, is completely legit according to that rule.

There are ways around the 8MB limit, but this is not one of them.

If i wanted to change the rules, then i would make a request of a rule change.
In this case, i am asking for clarity over a subject that is not described by the rules.

 

[Wareditor]

@Wietlol what you want to allow is the most inconvenient way to play a map ever

 

[pick-a-chew]

Done some changes:

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the invisible floor is so cool, how come i've never seen it done before?

The rules state that a map must be below 8MB so it can be played in Battle.net.
My map, using local files, is completely legit according to that rule.

There are ways around the 8MB limit, but this is not one of them.

If i wanted to change the rules, then i would make a request of a rule change.
In this case, i am asking for clarity over a subject that is not described by the rules.

if a map uses another folder, isn't it more than just a map? that's my two cents

 

[Paillan]

Really, never seen maps that use alpha tile?

 

[Marjosh38]

I think maps that are over 8mb which is going to be submitted are single player maps only. But I don't clearly know it.

I have already saw a solution on 8mb map that can be played in LAN. I hope it can help?.

Warcraft III bypass map file size limit. [ver.6]

Thanks to: Raichu

BTW is map can be in solo play or must be in multiplayer?

 

[Rence Kristoff]

BTW is map can be in solo play or must be in multiplayer?

It can be solo and doesn't have the 8mb limit, but if it is multi player then there's that limit.
and my post you quoted was about the earlier posts of this whole 8mb thing, my opinion or understanding at least :|

 

[Marjosh38]

my post you quoted was about the earlier posts of this whole 8mb thing, my opinion or understanding at least :|

Hehehe THANKS

 

[The_Silent]

May participate. Playing around with doodads / settings to see I can eventually get something like the contest image.

Spoiler: Screenshot

 

[Rence Kristoff]

Here is my first terraining WIP, it's not much since I'm bad at this, well it's a start out of all things I need to do.

 

[Wietlol]

what you want to allow is the most inconvenient way to play a map ever

Would you download it?

if a map uses another folder, isn't it more than just a map? that's my two cents

Hence my question.

 

[Dehua_Darbuya]

There are some nice terrains and WIPs in here. Very nice indeed.

Not sure whether I should join or not. I am at best, a novice, at creating terrain. :/

 

[Tickles]

Terraining itself is a very minor part of the scoring. As long as it fits the theme and style of your map and isn't a jumbled mess, you should be fine. In fact, all you might need is a unique gameplay mechanic to DESTROY THE COMPETITION! Terrain is probably the easiest thing to go back and improve later if you feel the need to.

 

[Rex.]

Terraining itself is a very minor part of the scoring. As long as it fits the theme and style of your map and isn't a jumbled mess, you should be fine. In fact, all you might need is a unique gameplay mechanic to DESTROY THE COMPETITION! Terrain is probably the easiest thing to go back and improve later if you feel the need to.

The man is right.

 

[pick-a-chew]

Terraining itself is a very minor part of the scoring. As long as it fits the theme and style of your map and isn't a jumbled mess, you should be fine. In fact, all you might need is a unique gameplay mechanic to DESTROY THE COMPETITION! Terrain is probably the easiest thing to go back and improve later if you feel the need to.

Phew!

 

[Paillan]

Terraining itself is a very minor part of the scoring. As long as it fits the theme and style of your map and isn't a jumbled mess, you should be fine. In fact, all you might need is a unique gameplay mechanic to DESTROY THE COMPETITION! Terrain is probably the easiest thing to go back and improve later if you feel the need to.

The man is wrong. Terrain for the win!

No seriously, if you sum up going for the theme (20%) and having a nice terrain (30%), terrain itself makes up for 50%, 10% over the 40% too gameplay. Of course that is not that much, as actually good gameplay almost imply good triggers, making it an overall 50% vs 50%. So yeah. Focus on terrain is actually a viable strategy.

 

[Rence Kristoff]

Terraining itself is a very minor part of the scoring. As long as it fits the theme and style of your map and isn't a jumbled mess, you should be fine. In fact, all you might need is a unique gameplay mechanic to DESTROY THE COMPETITION! Terrain is probably the easiest thing to go back and improve later if you feel the need to.

Well he's not completely wrong/right
Almost everything in the map must be according to the theme, so that includes good terrain, good gameplay, a feeling according to the theme, and something else that fits the theme that will probably stand out, or be unique from the different maps.

 

[The_Silent]

Spawn so far

Spoiler

 

[Wareditor]

This what I have so far for the terrain:

Spoiler