Hero Contest #2 - HQ Hero

[Billy the Cat]

And we need to make our own testmap?

 

[Kingz]

One question if i make a hero but get a better idea later, am i allowed to update my submison?
This contest should prove usefull for me to enhance my skills with vJass^^
Also are timer utils and minor stuff like that allowed?

 

[Eccho]

Minor stuff is allowed as long as you credit the author.

 

[Pyritie]

Top image is broken.

 

[Cr34p]

I'm working hard ... here another WIP info. This time a picture... haha but for real, it's again a text

 

[Billy the Cat]

I'm working hard ... here another WIP info. This time a picture... haha but for real, it's again a text

Fix the
ist ==> is
Arcance ==> Arcane
in your tooltip

I think you guys can count me in with the Battle Priest if everything is going fine.

Do tooltips have to be that big? It looks nice, but I thought smaller tooltips were a lot better for playability. I got a more Warcraft-like tooltip on the passive I was working on.

 

[Gallean]

I think, that I will participate, but how can I upload something for a contest?

 

[Deuterium]

GUI has usually been judged without further decreasment of possible marks just because it's GUI (in the past).

Well I see...
If I had a bit more time between the day I finish exams and the deadline, I would have done it in Jass, but since I'm more used to GUI I won't.
I'm not even sure I have enough time to do it in GUI...


@ hvo-busterkomo:
I'm not sure I could get done with it by the deadline, but also sign me in if you're signing Kingz in... although I'm thinking of a Poison hero, I'm not sure so keep it as Unknown.

 

[Kingz]

@xD.Schurke
That is some nice ideas you got there, i hope i will be able to match my hero idea with yours.
Though it does sound a bit complex and reminds me of something like reverse engineering skill.

 

[Jawzy]

Im up!
Hero: Lord Pyrus
Name: Anchlar Blazeheart

 

[Cr34p]

@xD.Schurke
That is some nice ideas you got there, i hope i will be able to match my hero idea with yours.
Though it does sound a bit complex and reminds me of something like reverse engineering skill.

this single spell is realy complex. I nearly needed 4hours to finish this spell. Magical Spheres will be some own small units. I will base them on a struct and will let them fly around the caster... hope I get it good looking

edit: btw. this spell is passiv, so even more complex .P

 

[Kingz]

I know it's passive, i said it's like reverse engineering.
The base engineering improves other spells while in your case other spells improve this one.
Still good luck.
EDIT:
Are names a issue?
I mean must i figure out a proper name for a hero?

 

[Cr34p]

I know it's passive, i said it's like reverse engineering.
The base engineering improves other spells while in your case other spells improve this one.
Still good luck.
EDIT:
Are names a issue?
I mean must i figure out a proper name for a hero?

of course. originality^^

 

[TriggerHappy]

Are we allowed to get code critique from other people?

 

[Cr34p]

hm why not?

 

[Deuterium]

I love the fact that some of you like already some have some spells being worked on

Good job!

 

[Billy the Cat]

I have been working on the testmap and I did some basic spell lay-out thingies now
Just sign me in with the Battle Priest hero.

Since this is not just a spellmaking contest what are further things to look for?

 

[dansaDisco]

I have been working on the testmap and I did some basic spell lay-out thingies now
Just sign me in with the Battle Priest hero.

Since this is not just a spellmaking contest what are further things to look for?

Balance, originality, visual appearance (I guess lol)

 

[Billy the Cat]

Balance, originality, visual appearance (I guess lol)

Kinda hard to rate something on visual appearance that you can import from THW (unless it is the spells).

How to make nice screenshots of the spell tooltips by the way? (I got icy terrain and that makes it kinda transparent in-game.

 

[busterkomo]

Since this is not just a spellmaking contest what are further things to look for?

Read the judging criteria.

 

[Billy the Cat]

Read the judging criteria.

Already saw I was blind (if that's possible :O).

 

[Feroc1ty]

Put me on the list, I'm making an unnamed hero, I'll give him a name later in the development.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Sorry for being late.
hvo-busterkomo, I meant that it is not clear what theme the person has to use. In this case you should clearly lable the fact that the theme is up to the user to choose from, as currently it can be misleading.

 

[Martin Barbov]

At last, hero contest. I might actually join that one. I have a question:

Can I make more than 4 skills if the hero has 4 at a time(in the precise case I mean having different skills during the day and night)

If I don't change the concept my hero will be some kind of light/darkness keeper of balance in the Universe or sth.

 

[Zack1996]

I think when it states 4 skills, it means 4 skills that the hero can learn. Even if you have a spellbook with 100 spell, I think its still acceptable, as long as the spellbook itself is one spell the hero can learn.
The example above is retarded, ignore it or you'll make a hero based of that concept XD
Anyway, good luck everyone!
EDIT: A WIP, showcases Fire Rush (the only spell I made today -_-, having holidays now) my first JASS spell that I didn't rip off from one source or another. Notice that caster is not pause/invulnerable(?)

Screenie

 

[Billy the Cat]

I have been working on a test map
This is still just a little wip so things can be differ a lot.

Edit: pc failed and didn't post the wip...

 

[Ricardo Irving]

I sign!

 

[Eccho]

That looks really nice (the spells) and interesting actually. Keep 'em coming.

 

[Kingz]

I fail to see hot that is a battle priest
It more looks like a modified mountain king with cooler armor...
Even the spell breaker looks more a battle priest
My opinion only though...

 

[Slaydon]

How can i make my ability spawn 100 seaweeds, but they can go inside ppl, and still doesnt get into a big shadow with 100 seaweeds in each other?

 

[Kingz]

Hmm, i think my hero will have interesting abilities.
For now i only have the concept but i think they will look something like this:

 

[Ricardo Irving]

Hehe, I got a nice spell idea.

 

[Billy the Cat]

I fail to see hot that is a battle priest
It more looks like a modified mountain king with cooler armor...
Even the spell breaker looks more a battle priest
My opinion only though...

I know it doesn't really look like a priest and the spells I am making are not that priesty either...
I hope I am not losing points for that since I think my spells fit the hero, but not the name (Battle Priest)

Is there a way to post good in-game tooltips here?

 

[M4stah]

Im changing my hero to master of Energy. I have one spell done by now

 

[Billy the Cat]

One little question
How many levels do skills need to have?
I know that Warcraft skills usually have 3 levels for the basic spells, but does that count for this contest?

Edit: make it two questions
The model I am using might be called Battle Priest, but am I allowed to change this to fit the theme of my spell build?

 

[dansaDisco]

One little question
How many levels do skills need to have?
I know that Warcraft skills usually have 3 levels for the basic spells, but does that count for this contest?

Well, remember the max level of your hero will be 10 (since it should be well balanced compared to the existing heroes), so i believe 3 lvls is a well rounded amount, not sure if it has to be that way though.

 

[Zack1996]

Can we discuss the part about balance? Because melee heroes are rather hard to balance with. They have imba stun durations for some spells (War Stomp), horrible damage for others (Carrion Swarm, its maximum damage is horrible), imbalanced spells (Chemical Rage, 125% attack speed and 50% movement speed for 25 mana...), hyper spammable spells (Blizzard -_-), spells that are crap in melee but imba in certain other genres of games (Spiked Carapace, its crazy when you're using NA against PA in DotA, if you know what I mean). There are also many other kinds of spells that are impossible to compare balance to (Big Bad Voodoo, Locust Swarm, Hex - 45 seconds - and other spells).
Thus, can I suggest that you tweak the balance criteria? Why not create some simple basic hero in a test map with a simple AI for people to import their heroes into. Then we can just test the balance there (if one hero pwns another in seconds, balance is not achieved).
I mean, seriously, Blizzard kinda rigged Blademaster in melee game don't you agree? Windwalk gives crazy assasination potential early game, Mirror Image is crap but almost no one learns it anyway, Critical Strike gives a 15% chance to do a 4x critical and Bladestorm pawns if you do it right after windwalking into a huge army.
But if you want to keep the criteria that way, I'm fine. Its easy to balance numbers. But that makes stuff unfun

PS: Lol, random argument XD

 

[M4stah]

I think balance mainly means:Make it fit into a melee game. A cinematic spell with 10 secs casting time+killing 20 units instantly would not be a good skill.

 

[Billy the Cat]

Balancing is indeed going to be difficult. I never play Arranged Team games normally and seeing how the spell I made is kinda complex this is gonna be a difficult job. I will do my best ^^
Most damage spells can be good against groups or just on 1 vs 1 fights.

I made a test map, but situations there are not always the real situations when playing.

 

[Slaydon]

can someone tell me how i can do my spell? i got this Dummy with Seaweed Variation 2 model, but when my trigger activates, it works perfect but the problem is that they all spawn in the same place, inside each other

 

[Jawzy]

Im done!! i will show it later on

 

[Cr34p]

hm with all spells etc.?

 

[Billy the Cat]

Im done!! i will show it later on

Just
Can it even be done that fast?

 

[Eccho]

It ofcourse depends on how much quality he wants it to have

 

[baassee]

Oh crap what a good timing, just finished school today, maybe I will come up with something badassness but will see btw this look more like a spellmaking contest to me

 

[nerovesper]

another contest? weee!!! xD I think I'm in. xD

 

[baassee]

Also, it doesnt say anything in the rules but you should probably name that a good test map is needed

Else you can just go for the plain starting shit

EDIT:

My hero will be a thunder hero so you know

 

[Billy the Cat]

Also, it doesnt say anything in the rules but you should probably name that a good test map is needed

Else you can just go for the plain starting shit

EDIT:

My hero will be a thunder hero so you know

Kinda like my thing
My hero now is partially a thunder hero and I have been working on the test-map quite a lot now. It indeed looks like a spellmaking contest since you can just use others heroes.

 

[nerovesper]

Does custom special effect models from THW include in the spell making? I hope that doesn't count in the judging. LOL! xD

 

[baassee]

Do you have to documentate the spells and variablize as much options as possible or that doesn't count in the score, just the performance of the spells?