Hero Contest #2 - HQ Hero

[dansaDisco]

Kinda like my thing
My hero now is partially a thunder hero and I have been working on the test-map quite a lot now. It indeed looks like a spellmaking contest since you can just use others heroes.

I don't think this is just a spellmaking contest, it's something more.

I mean, you need to make 4 spells that have a common theme, a nice concept and is well balanced.

So yeah.. I think it's a lot more than just making 4 spells and slapping them on a hero!

 

[Gallean]

Sign me up!
Loki, the Incarnation of Winter will rise

 

[Krarnal]

Well the rating basicly goes to the spells i think If you just make some spells that doesnt work you wont win how nice the concept and fitting is XD But still yeah. There is a bit more.

 

[xD.Schurke]

here some more concept screens... this time a concept drawing of the 'Magical Sphere' - Movement ... just that you see that I work realy hard to get a perfect hero

 

[Krarnal]

Well thats fine But shouldnt you be making spells instead of drawing? XD

 

[Billy the Cat]

Do you have to documentate the spells and variablize as much options as possible or that doesn't count in the score, just the performance of the spells?

Same thing I want to know...

 

[xD.Schurke]

@Krarnal: You know... one needs concepts, and for my spells I need a new system which I will write :O, and this concept "drawing" is for this system...

 

[Slaydon]

Help anyone? http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/1158809-post89.html

 

[M4stah]

Slaydon, 1. You are supposed to make the spell
2. Go ask in triggers&scripts forums if you really need it

 

[Slaydon]

Ive made the spell, but the seaweeds gets inside each other

 

[f0rsAk3n]

I'm In.

I'll be making a Death Mage.

Wish me luck ?

 

[dansaDisco]

i'm in.

I'll be making a death mage.

Wish me luck :d?

good luck <3

 

[baassee]

My ultimate is done, thought asking the judge about a system so wont screenshot it but take a look at the tooltip.

Lightning Chains

The lord causes lightnings around him, catching nearby enemy units within 400 range of the lord, causing them to spin around the lord attached to the lightnings. During spinning around the lord, the lord deals 40 duration damage for every second channeled time. Lasts 4 seconds.

Got a half nuke done too

 

[Deuterium]

here some more concept screens... this time a concept drawing of the 'Magical Sphere' - Movement ... just that you see that I work realy hard to get a perfect hero

I like the fact that you use graphs to brainstorm... smart!

Good with Geometry ehh?

 

[Kingz]

Btw xD.Schurke why is that hard?
It is almost too easy
Take an distance from source, and maximum height and u can easily calculate the neccesary height and rotation speed change.
Also i think you could find a perfect equation for that on the internet anyway
Also gained a nice idea about my clockwerk hero, really nice^^

 

[xD.Schurke]

I didnt said that this one is hard^^ I only said I'm hard working on progress I'm just writing a new system for that, will be realy simple and useful to use ;()

 

[Kingz]

Well i know but u said that you work hard on a hero and then say that the things you are working on ain't hard?
Isn't that contradictive a bit?

 

[xD.Schurke]

yeah of course I'm working hard on the hero but that doesn't mean that everything I do is hard hehe^^

 

[Kingz]

I know but you say double meaning stuff sometimes.
Btw are really minor stuff like unit's shadows, stats and damage type neccesary to be custom?

 

[Septimus]

darn, if I know. I won't be making my ward spells too early or else I could make a hero with the theme of ward..

 

[Deuterium]

Well Septimus I guess you've got to start working on new spells then

 

[Billy the Cat]

I know but you say double meaning stuff sometimes.
Btw are really minor stuff like unit's shadows, stats and damage type neccesary to be custom?

Been working a lot today on getting a balanced and nice looking hero so I guess yes
(Some values are the same for all heroes so I think those won't need customization like build time and cost.)

Balancing is a pain in the ass with weird spells D:

/@ Septimus I don't know about your ward spell, but your FAIL spell did not fail at all so I know you can do it

 

[Deuterium]

good luck <3

<3!?
REALLY!? xD

 

[f0rsAk3n]

good luck <3

bet ill still kick your ass -.-

<3!!

 

[MultiGod]

Count me in!

 

[Zack1996]

Holy! Look at this post!
v1.23 Patch
The Warcraft v1.23b patch will fix the return bug and disable loads of older JASS function
It would benefit those who use GUI (they added new functions) but not those who work with JASS :S
So can we come to an agreement? Should everyone keep with v1.23 until the contest is over or should everyone upgrade when it comes out (should be rather soon I believe)

Progress Report: Nothing New, doing some holiday homework I've been putting off for about a week XD
Expect something in a few hours, this other spells should be relatively simple

 

[Kwah]

. . . ?

 

[Kingz]

ehm, as i read it, it only gives the jass 97 new natives, so functions like H2I now have become native, therefore it's better.
They also injected hash table and it's functions to be native so i don't see how that is bad

 

[Deuterium]

So whoever works with Jass "must" update to v1.23b or scripts of older versions still function normally in all versions?

 

[Kingz]

Some will work, some won't.
I think it will possibly make jass/vjass maps which uses h2i and hash table to bug so i think they will have to be reworked.
Not sure though.

 

[Deuterium]

It'll be so annoying if there are bugs considering that, I don't feel like updating my warcraft...

Note: JASS-enabled maps that are not brought into compliance with the may not work correctly or at all after we release the next Warcraft III patch.

 

[Ricardo Irving]

My submit will be about a dwarven technician/mechanic who controls stuff such as air-bots, will use GUI, not JASS, and has a very minor custom skin which I made, which has a brown beard (model - Rifleman, instead of gray beard), and one red arm. Lol, but we aren't being judged on that.

 

[nerovesper]

Whoa! talk about competition. This is going to be a wild ride. xD

My hero will be a hunter. Not much though. Hopefully it's top 3 material. But I think not... LOL!

Good Luck to all of you! xD

@xD.Schurke I'm expecting another award winning hero spells from you. xD

 

[baassee]

WIP Screenie of lightning chains (ultimate)

Picture

I know the icon is on the wrong place but I'll fix it later

edit:

it's still in wip mode cause havent figured out my aoe effects

edit 2 :

made in hidden tags

 

[f0rsAk3n]

Guys i just want to know, as we are allowed to use custom material, and custom material is not allowed when uploading spells, are there exceptions when uploading your Hero Contest Hero spells? .

Tanx.

Btw Baassee looks awesome

 

[nerovesper]

I see, you'll be using Jigrael's Lightning Elemental. I thinking this will have a cool spell with that cool model. xD

 

[baassee]

Btw Baassee looks awesome

thank you

1. I see, you'll be using Jigrael's Lightning Elemental.

2. I thinking this will have a cool spell with that cool model. xD

1. best lightning model there is

2. thank you

 

[Billy the Cat]

Like f0rsAK3n asked:
Will we be allowed to upload those spells in the spell section since they use custom imports?

Progress:
I have been busy with some balancing jobs and tried to make a start for my ultimate.

 

[baassee]

Like f0rsAK3n asked:
Will we be allowed to upload those spells in the spell section since they use custom imports?

ofc you can, there are no rule that say that you cant have any custom stuff to get rejected only useless ones and icons.

thought maybe models counts to the "useless" ones but dunno maybe hvo gives an exception for the contest

 

[Kingz]

Haven't even started yet
Still figuring out what should i make, i got a great idea for ultimate of my hero, just need to think of the rest...
Not to worry i can make things fast and school is more important right now, 2 weeks left and i need to concentrate on it for now...
Btw too much lightning effects, but i think it looks better ingame, lightning screenshots are always worse than in the actual game...
Now i have more experience when it comes to contests and i hope to win this one^^

 

[Billy the Cat]

ofc you can, there are no rule that say that you cant have any custom stuff to get rejected only useless ones and icons.

thought maybe models counts to the "useless" ones but dunno maybe hvo gives an exception for the contest

The rules say:
Submissions must be free of unnecessary imported material.

I don't know whether it is useless in this situation, but people have the habit of finding any form of import unnecessary (especially the heroes).

 

[baassee]

May the best spellmaker win Kingz

the unnecessary part only uses for hero models not for models that you uses in the spell to make it look even better without WE in-game models

edit: Second spell

like support/aoe over time spell

Lightning Strike

The lord summons a lightning from above, striking himself with it, causing him to get a temporary armor and healthpoint regenation increase, also the lightning strike leaves a static shield on the lord, dealing all enemy units in his way.Duration increases by level.

Level 1 - 1 armor, 13 damage per second.
Level 2 - 2 armor, 24 damage per second.
Level 3 - 4 armor, 40 damage per second.

 

[Ricardo Irving]

The rules say:
Submissions must be free of unnecessary imported material.

I don't know whether it is useless in this situation, but people have the habit of finding any form of import unnecessary (especially the heroes).

So giving a rifleman model a brown-beard in a skin is not needed do you think? Heh, I'm not truly starting yet. Friday.

 

[Zack1996]

Actually, you do not really need custom models. I don't think that's judged.
As long as you don't call a Hydra a cat or a Furbolg a Footman or something, it should be fine. The criteria is as follow:

Originality	How original the hero is. Small derivations of standard WC3 heroes won't yield much score in this category.	/5
Balance	How balanced the hero is compared to standard melee heroes.	/5
Coding	How leak free, efficient, and well structured the coding of the map is.	/10
Theme	How well the abilities fit the theme of the hero. This also includes the synergy between abilities.	/10

There's nothing about appearance (unfortunately) so I guess it doesn't matter if the hero's spell has little special effects (complete lack of special effects is unacceptable, jk)
Anyway, good luck to all.
EDIT: No progress for me. Too busy playing XD

 

[Billy the Cat]

I have been working on my ultimate spell and the result looks quite awesome...
If I just knew how to use knockback thingies for a MUI spell it would be totally awesome

First time I make a spell this triggered :O

 

[f0rsAk3n]

I've gotten This spell done for my Death Mage

Soul Addiction

 

[Billy the Cat]

Are we supposed to make those tooltips to add depth to the theme of the hero? I made all my tooltips Warcraft 3 based.

 

[baassee]

my tooltips are wc3 based, nothing wrong with that if you got the hotkey right ...

@ forsaken

looks alittle like yearights soul shatter there

 

[Billy the Cat]

my tooltips are wc3 based, nothing wrong with that if you got the hotkey right ...

@ forsaken

looks alittle like yearights soul shatter there

Ofcourse I do the hotkeys right
I think non-Warcraft 3 tooltips look cooler... but I thought it would lower my score.

I got 3 nice abilities atm, but I wanted to add more things to them

 

[f0rsAk3n]

Meh ill change it to wc3 based.

my tooltips are wc3 based, nothing wrong with that if you got the hotkey right ...

@ forsaken

looks alittle like yearights soul shatter there

meh never heard of it .

Edit: maybe I'll add another thing. Like a damage bonus for each soul, Just to make it more original. =\/