Custom Race: Sargeras Loyalists 1.1

[The Nightmare Book]

I remember your proposition in DM, and I will probably replay this race once again in the future, @CollectorofStoriesUntold

Overall... I like your premise, "What if demons, after Sargeras defeat, decided to play cool and pretend that nothing had happened": Sargeras Loyalists concept is currently barely explored in modern retail lore. Anyway, I dont think that you looked into it when generating this idea

In terms of gameplay, I feel that Tier One units are way, way too POWERFUL. I advanced by Town Hall only to unlock their upgrades and new tiers of generic attack/armor update, since my army consisted of felguards (mostly) during the 2/3 AI enemies I fought. Maybe it really depends on AI difficulty and especially during mirror matches, but in FFA against 3 normal AI's I slashed through them without major issues (until the last one, but thats normal).
Oh. Those succubi casters(?) are cool. Rest of the casters, siege units, and even Tier 3 I didn't used due to the reasons above.

In terms of aethestic - I like such usage of AI-generated voicelines. Did you used samples from Wowhead for demons or found else? Especially for gan'args.
I liked those demonic growls and sultry succubi hero voice more than CONSTANT GOBLIN GIRL RAMBLING, yet I still think that it was done perfectly for your goblin custom race.

Did I like this race?
Yes.
Will I replay it in the future to see more stuff, especially in a mirror match?
Absolutely.

Awaiting the Eternal Dynasty update... Or more WoW-styled races.

 

[CollectorofStoriesUntold]

I remember your proposition in DM, and I will probably replay this race once again in the future, @CollectorofStoriesUntold

Overall... I like your premise, "What if demons, after Sargeras defeat, decided to play cool and pretend that nothing had happened": Sargeras Loyalists concept is currently barely explored in modern retail lore. Anyway, I dont think that you looked into it when generating this idea

In terms of gameplay, I feel that Tier One units are way, way too POWERFUL. I advanced by Town Hall only to unlock their upgrades and new tiers of generic attack/armor update, since my army consisted of felguards (mostly) during the 2/3 AI enemies I fought. Maybe it really depends on AI difficulty and especially during mirror matches, but in FFA against 3 normal AI's I slashed through them without major issues (until the last one, but thats normal).
Oh. Those succubi casters(?) are cool. Rest of the casters, siege units, and even Tier 3 I didn't used due to the reasons above.

In terms of aethestic - I like such usage of AI-generated voicelines. Did you used samples from Wowhead for demons or found else? Especially for gan'args.
I liked those demonic growls and sultry succubi hero voice more than CONSTANT GOBLIN GIRL RAMBLING, yet I still think that it was done perfectly for your goblin custom race.

Did I like this race?
Yes.
Will I replay it in the future to see more stuff, especially in a mirror match?
Absolutely.

Awaiting the Eternal Dynasty update... Or more WoW-styled races.

Thanks again for reviewing. Blizzard really dropped the ball with the Legion. I mean, come on—they’ve been villain number one since the beginning. For my research, I read the wiki and watched several videos. It turns out there are a lot of interesting demonic races that don’t have much lore, and we don’t have models for many of them on Hive. I ended up using what I could find and running with some of my own ideas.

There will be some rebalancing in the future. I was feeling pretty burned out toward the end. I also couldn’t get the AI to work correctly and spent about ten hours trying to fix it. It turned out I had used an equal to instead of an and in one of the conditions. Regarding the faction being overpowered—you should have seen the Devastator before the hotfix. I think the Fel Guards will be constrained more toward a tank role, and the Gunner will probably get adjustments to its DPS.

The demonic growls/voices were from base game and wow, The Tormentors used Warcraft III voice lines. The Temptress uses WoW voice lines. The Heroes, Bladedancer, and the Emissary were AI-generated based on voices created from descriptive text.

As for future maps, I’m currently working on a Pandaren race (almost done—just one hero left, plus balance testing and AI). After that, it’s a bit of a toss-up between finishing either the Syndicate of Alterac or the Satyr of the Legion races—both are older projects I’d like to wrap up.

The Eternal Dynasty is currently on hold. I started the next version from the ground up with the intent of redoing mechanics and using different units. Then I played The Sandborn by SpellBound, and it kind of killed my motivation—the map was almost exactly how I had envisioned my race aesthetically. However, now that you mention it, I’ll probably release an update in a week or two to fix tooltips, make some balance adjustments and may be retool the hero kits. The map is currently playable but still needs some polishing.

I’ll keep you updated as I roll things out.

Ps. According to your YouTube channel, I think the only races you haven’t played from the ones I’ve uploaded are Eternal Dynasty, The Goblin Conglomerate, and the Vampire faction from the current Dreadweald version (you played the Flesh Cult).

 

[The Nightmare Book]

Ps. According to your YouTube channel, I think the only races you haven’t played from the ones I’ve uploaded are Eternal Dynasty, The Goblin Conglomerate, and the Vampire faction from the current Dreadweald version (you played the Flesh Cult).

Hey, I played the goblin race!

 

[MogulKahn]

With few changes I could see this race as a legit Legion race. But that Doom guy wih machine gun is just painfull to look at.

 

[deepstrasz]

A nice custom techtree faction. Nothing fancy in terms of base building and resource gathering but novel.
Approved.

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[CollectorofStoriesUntold]

With few changes I could see this race as a legit Legion race. But that Doom guy wih machine gun is just painfull to look at.

MogulKah, thank you for the review.


I wanted to focus more on the humanoid and sentient races of the legion rather than the more monstrous/animalistic demons. I did noticed that Doomguy doesn't blend in as well. However, there are not that many legion models that are not rehashes of doomguards, felguards, or orcs.

What changes were you thinking of?

 

[MogulKahn]

Reskin one of various ranged Draenei models into red, call it Erderar Tormentor or something like that, and you got pretty cool ranged unit that fits Legion aestetics.

 

[Galendor an'Kreil]

MogulKah, thank you for the review.


I wanted to focus more on the humanoid and sentient races of the legion rather than the more monstrous/animalistic demons. I did noticed that Doomguy doesn't blend in as well. However, there are not that many legion models that are not rehashes of doomguards, felguards, or orcs.

What changes were you thinking of?

My suggestion:

• imps replace doomguy as basic range units, throwing fireballs at enemies.
• abstract "fiends" replace current summonable imps (a great model for such unit is a Demon Taskmaster from this pack https://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/demonic-brethren-pack-ii.341724/)

 

[Blackgrowl]

I was excited for this, but sadly it's not that good.
The moment I saw that "Gunner", I was laughing but then got sad because it feels too ridiculous.

The hero that I've tried, Mo'Arg Warlord, was incredibly boring. He only has an aura that increases melee damage, one attack that's merely just a "rush in" but with no actual special effect and some kind of toggle to increase his armour which...It's really not much.

Devastator is a very cool thing, but it's more fit for a game liked Red Alert 2, looks like a "What if the Soviets were Demons instead?" type of tank, really, not fitting Warcraft's weird mix of medieval and pre-industrial gunpowder eras.

The magic units have some issues with the graphics, specifically portraits. Their magic is not bad though, but I'm a bit biased since I'm not fond of using magic.

Also, the creeps look like an April Fools event!

I feel like this could have been a great racemod, considering that the logo is also showing some of my favourite demons, like the Pit Lord, but I've never seen him anywhere.

I'm giving a 2/5 since work was made for it and there's good stuff, but there's also a huge vast room of improvement to be taken care of.