Solo Mapping Competition #3

[real138]

i gotta wait another 5 hours but sure to whoever in europe happy new year

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

I have poor foresight, so I just make the terrain, triggers, and everything else at once. Here are some pics.

Did I attack em right?

Could you convert these to JPG format so we can view them on site?

I downloaded one, the terrain was very flat. Your going to want to vary the height more

 

[RED BARON]

Happy New Year! Everyone.

And looking good YourNameHere

 

[X-OMG-X]

Happy newyear everybody!

I've done 1/3 of the design. Will add some more detailed terrain later on. The traps/puzzles for the finished terrain is done too.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Man that was fast. You realize you have until February (almost March) right?

I would suggest to slow down and perfect your project

 

[Crazy Cow]

I've seen some shots, and I am going to remember you all:
This HAS to be an Indoor map. It could start outdoor, like when your character enters the place, but after that it has to be indoor.

Well, there goes the Zangarmarsh. It's a good thing I have a backup plan. I'll post some screenshots of the terrain in the next few days. In the meantime, I call the Forgotten One theme, ok?
Happy New Year and good luck to everyone.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Well actually Infrenus has started something using Forgotten ones

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/1424041-post306.html
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/1422105-post165.html

I don't know if this is the same as what you where thinking, but just to tell ya

 

[Boneknight]

ok guys i am sorry but looks like i am drooping out of this if anyone wants to know the reason well i made around 90 % of my terrain (huge model) and my laptop battery got to low and it shut down and i have not saved even before so it means i am without my terrain and i fell just without any motivation anymore so if anyone wants any of models i made for this PM me (i will not give you goblin)

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Man, that sucks.............

You'll be back....I'm telling you now. One day from now and February, you'll think man that idea would've been sweet, and then you'll try to start again. And one thing will lead to another and you'll be back

 

[Boneknight]

lol i have wip of how it looked like so if you want i can post it here later and you are right i might be back

 

[BlinkforFear]

the only game that i could think of thats even close to this game type would be "are you a retard?" and the big reason why it is fun is because you can see all the nubs fall into the traps.... but if its only 1 player half the fun is taken away for me... im sure there will be some good games but i think the turn out could be better if it wasnt 1 player... gl to all who enter

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

the only game that i could think of thats even close to this game type would be "are you a retard?" and the big reason why it is fun is because you can see all the nubs fall into the traps.... but if its only 1 player half the fun is taken away for me... im sure there will be some good games but i think the turn out could be better if it wasnt 1 player... gl to all who enter

Man, half those maps don't even test your intelligence, more so how many nubs can fall into traps before you so you can see what not to do. Gotta have the nub meat shield.

 

[Deaod]

Some screenies. Theyre far away from final.
First one is one of the first corners.
Second one is the starting area.
Third is some hidden library.

 

[Syleona]

Another round of sweet screnies everyone.

@YourNameHere , do not forget that it has to be an indoor map. Let it be a cave, dungeon, temple,etc. As you mention it will be a city, I thought I'll remind you on that.

Also, Happy New Year everyone!

 

[Dr. House]

im having a problem i got a great idea in mind but im not so pro at making triggers and if i even would make it thay would look crap (but prolly work) so is this bad or?

 

[YourNameHere]

And looking good YourNameHere

Thanks for the flowers

@YourNameHere , do not forget that it has to be an indoor map. Let it be a cave, dungeon, temple,etc. As you mention it will be a city, I thought I'll remind you on that.

Yes ofcourse, that's only the start. You're going to explore the city and the main part will be in an old lab. (;


Also, Happy new year everyone!

 

[HailFireer]

Ok, I am going for some temple and I know there are 2 guys with that theme already, but I got ideas to make it unique.

Aldo, still can't offer any screenies.

 

[supertoinkz]

I just saw Syleona's post about the cities, gotta change my theme

 

[Boneknight]

WIP its 1 whole model for whole terrain i guess its like 1/20 of the model near 600 kb (started again)

 

[YourNameHere]

I just saw Syleona's post about the cities, gotta change my theme

haha, owned
Guess that's the final for the starting place

 

[Amigurumi]

@ Boneknight: looks awesome!
too bad you didn't saved it would really like to see it ingame.

@ YourNameHere: I guess... starting place? xD
nice modern terrain

 

[Boneknight]

you didnt get me that is new one i started from beginning using the WIP as guide so i am back that piece is already done

 

[YourNameHere]

@ YourNameHere: I guess... starting place? xD
nice modern terrain

Yeah.. starting place :x
Well thanks, took a while to get all the models/textures together :/
And I still need some more, sadly..

 

[Amigurumi]

hehe, love the train lights
and you have enough time to find some good models

My progress is kinda slow atm, but I did some nice traps.
Maybe I'll post some screenies later

 

[Kingz]

@Boneknight

I fail to see how you will make units actualy walk over that model perfectly.

I think it will be glitched a lot since it has no pathing like WC models have, and afaik you can't implement custom pathing

So basicaly you will still have to terrain everything in WC in order to make the units move good on that model.

Also high-poly models inside warcraft engine make the game lag quite a bit, so unless it is under some poly count, it will make the game lag(afaik).

EDIT:

I am getting tempted to start modeling my own doodads cause of that pic :3

Don't make me open my 3DS max! xP

No really, i might start modeling just for this contest

 

[Boneknight]

well i fail with the model i will quit this competition lol

 

[Amigurumi]

@ Kingz: well, it's possible, but a hard work. You have to work a lot with pathing blockers, sightblockers (or how they are called).
also with invisibles platforms. Like I said, it's possible, but a very hard and time
consuming work.
Never worked/had very high-poly models, so don't know if it's going to lag.

 

[Kingz]

Try importing that model and just running the map with no units or anything.

Type:/fps

And see if it lags

 

[Boneknight]

will do but later i am not my War 3 computer right now i am on my modeling laptop right now (if you wonder i have 4 computers and 1 laptop)

 

[Kingz]

I think the game will be unplayable with that high poly count(as far as i seen from the pic).

If i remember WC can support up to X poly counts per model(not sure about this fact) as high poly models are getting rejected on THW and it surely must have a good reason

 

[Boneknight]

well then i woud sugest you to check polly count on this one (and its still low and simple)

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/flesh-tearer-153821/

 

[Amigurumi]

high poly models have a huge kb size and wc3 is very weak at high poly models
(can be seen, if you put hundreds at one point = graphic bugs)
so it might be possible that wc3 lags with highpoly models, but I'm not sure
how it will work with only one model

 

[Kingz]

I am just saying, WC3 graphic engine can't handle to high poly counts properly.

I absolutely dunno how much poly count per model it can handle

That is why i would advise you to test your model when it is about 33/50% done and see if it lags

 

[YourNameHere]

hehe, love the train lights
and you have enough time to find some good models

Yeah, just searched some other site P) and found a few more models, I think I can continue my work now :>

@High Poly models:
Believe it or not; when you're at that position where I took my screen, I had like 40 FPS only. (Which doesn't mean much, my PC is pretty old)

 

[Boneknight]

i understand what you are saying but 100 even attachments have more lol

 

[Amigurumi]

@ YourNameHere: I wouldn't say this sites name here at hive, the mods
don't like this site (because of ripped models) and would punish you.
so you should remove that name

 

[Kingz]

I ain't a modeler, i dunno how many poly count is normal and how much isn't

 

[Pyritie]

WIP its 1 whole model for whole terrain i guess its like 1/20 of the model near 600 kb (started again)

I like this and I think it's a great idea.

Few things you should keep in mind though:
- Make sure you import the model as a destructible and check the "Walkable" box in the object editor
- WC3 doesn't really like big (as in visual size, not file size) models that have their origins off the screen, so make sure you calculate the extents correctly on that. Also I'd suggest splitting up your map's terrain (assuming you're doing all of it this way) into smaller bits and then sticking them together in WE - this will help reduce the extents issue
- Make sure you leave enough time so your map actually has gameplay

I think it will be glitched a lot since it has no pathing like WC models have, and afaik you can't implement custom pathing

Sure you can, although it's a bit of a pain: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/graveyard-209/pathing-map-tutorial-123358/

or of course he could just use pathing blockers

I think the game will be unplayable with that high poly count(as far as i seen from the pic).

If i remember WC can support up to 30-100 poly counts per model(not sure about this fact) as high poly models are getting rejected on THW and it surely must have a good reason

30-100? The fuck? The human town hall has like 3000 >___>

And we reject high poly models not because they're high poly but because they're unnecessarily high poly. There's a big difference.

@ YourNameHere: I wouldn't say this sites name here at hive, the mods
don't like this site (because of ripped models) and would punish you.
so you should remove that name

Meh, we don't mind if people talk about it as long as nobody links to something there that would break rules here

 

[YourNameHere]

@ YourNameHere: I wouldn't say this sites name here at hive, the mods
don't like this site (because of ripped models) and would punish you.
so you should remove that name

Right, didn't know, I found some quite good models there which I didn't find on wc3c nor here :/

 

[Boneknight]

actualy that was my plan 20 pices sticket together in WE

 

[Kingz]

As i said i ain't a modeler, i dunno how much poly count models are accepted and how much isn't

Still it will require a LOT of work to make it work smoothly and not look funny, so GL with that

 

[Amigurumi]

@ Pyritie: ah, kay. I often read it, when someone posted/talked about this link,
all people who saw it were saying: fast, remove that, mods don't like it.

I have a question:
Are ripped models allowed? (I won't include any, because that would destroy the look,
and gameplay of my map, but only to know)
Because to upload a ripped model isn't allowed, but is it at contests?

 

[Asomath]

First contest I'll join. Though my terraining skills suck

~Asomath

 

[Gyrosphinx]

oo shit.... This has gone on for 3 days, I wanna join!

I'll keep my ideas secret for now... ...(mostly because I'm blank)...

 

[Amigurumi]

good luck for you both

 

[Pyritie]

I have a question:
Are ripped models allowed? (I won't include any, because that would destroy the look,
and gameplay of my map, but only to know)
Because to upload a ripped model isn't allowed, but is it at contests?

Whatever the map submission rules are, those are what we're using :/

 

[Boneknight]

soon posting second piece wip just to get the textures on

 

[Deaod]

Though my terraining skills suck

Youre not alone.

 

[Zeron]

im in.

 

[HINDYhat]

Bonenight, working with one entire model is difficult and I don't even know if it's possible. I've tried before, and there were many problems, notably lag, however I didn't really try splitting it up into smaller bits. I suppose that should fix it.

Anyhow, i haebz new idea which might also involve working with big walkable models. I'm guessing it's okay if we don't control a humanoid character?