Last Humanity

[Venkolm]

They ate my partner

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

This hardly seems like a finished map. Hell, it doesn't even look like it's out of the earliest stages of development.

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  • I have only 2 spells, both of which are just normal Warcraft 3 spells with different projectiles.
  • Items are randomly spread out.
  • There is no wave count, no countdown timer, no nothing. I can read in the quest log that there are 12 waves, but I have no idea what wave I am at.
  • So far I have only seen regular zombies. What about other units? Bigger zombies, horror creatures or zombies like the boomer or tank from L4D?
  • The terrain is extremely bland. Get some more doodads and variation in there.

Generally you need to make it a lot more interesting to make people play your map. Different classes, more spells (custom spells, not slightly modified W3 spells), varied zombie waves. Do some research into better terraining as you are far more likely to attract players when the terrain looks good.

EDIT: LOL, I confused this map with another map in my folder called Zombies. Since the theme of the two maps are exactly the same I got them mixed up, sorry about that.

I have no time to test your map as of this very moment but I promise I will make it up to you by playing it later and giving you a (possibly) better rating.

 

[Ashenguard]

Thanks for review

This hardly seems like a finished map. Hell, it doesn't even look like it's out of the earliest stages of development.

I've said it's not completed yet.

• I have only 2 spells, both of which are just normal Warcraft 3 spells with different projectiles.

What hero did you select? The spear-man and crossbowman are still under development.

• There are no wave count, no countdown timer, no nothing. I can read in the quest log that there are 12 waves, but I have no idea what wave I am at.

First It was added, Then removed by accident, But it will come back again.

• So far I have only seen regular zombies. What about other units? Bigger zombies, horror creatures or zombies like the boomer or tank from L4D?

I'm adding new zombies, There are 8 zombies right now. (Not in this version (0.0.1)) Also there are 5 types in games which will be unlocks when you reach higher waves.

• The terrain is extremely bland. Get some more doodads and variation in there.

Do some research into better terraining as you are far more likely to attract players when the terrain looks good.

I'm aware of the awful terrain,It would be remade soon. Thanks to reminds me.

Generally you need to make it a lot more interesting to make people play your map. Different classes, more spells (custom spells, not slightly modified W3 spells), varied zombie waves. Do some research into better terraining as you are far more likely to attract players when the terrain looks good.

This was why I've uploaded this map before finishing, I'm looking for some ideas for custom spells.
Right now units have a complicated system of ranking (Which is bugging right now ) to make them more powerful by time.

And at last, I want to reminds you this is not finished and full tested map.

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

Thanks for review



I've said it's not completed yet.

What hero did you select? The spear-man and crossbowman are still under development.

First It was added, Then removed by accident, But it will come back again.

I'm adding new zombies, There are 8 zombies right now. (Not in this version (0.0.1)) Also there are 5 types in games which will be unlocks when you reach higher waves.


I'm aware of the awful terrain,It would be remade soon. Thanks to reminds me.

This was why I've uploaded this map before finishing, I'm looking for some ideas for custom spells.
Right now units have a complicated system of ranking (Which is bugging right now ) to make them more powerful by time.

And at last, I want to reminds you this is not finished and full tested map.

Haha read the last part of my review

 

[MuckCZE]

Hi. I with ffriends tested your map and its look cool. It have big poitential.
1. Its easy to understand what to do.
2. If you want idea then i think i can give you some like ( stun shot, true shot, spear barage, formations of units, builder with towers, some auras, bosses, items, special rewards)
3. My friends started complain about that free units cause they got so many golds and recruting is cheap that they got so many units. They dont know what to do with them so i think try play with this and its not bad idea for me.
4. That leveling system is awesome so keep it up.

For me its good map and it need work. So i look foreward new versions.

 

[Ashenguard]

Hi. I with ffriends tested your map and its look cool. It have big poitential.
1. Its easy to understand what to do.
2. If you want idea then i think i can give you some like ( stun shot, true shot, spear barage, formations of units, builder with towers, some auras, bosses, items, special rewards)
3. My friends started complain about that free units cause they got so many golds and recruting is cheap that they got so many units. They dont know what to do with them so i think try play with this and its not bad idea for me.
4. That leveling system is awesome so keep it up.

For me its good map and it need work. So i look foreward new versions.

Thanks for review

It was only beta version, New version will come before next Friday.

We worked on terrain and make it more wide open, so it's more difficult to hold lines.
Also there are more events and bosses.

Some more units have been added, Heroes have been changed, ...
Too many changes on the way...

 

[deepstrasz]

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Awaiting Update.

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[Ashenguard]

Please write a credits list in the map thread description with the name of the authors whose resources you've used (including external ones).
This will help you with the imports from this site: Resources in Use by Last Humanity v0.1.0 | HIVE

Awaiting Update

As you asked the credits are added.

Also can I join this grand review?

 

[deepstrasz]

Also can I join this grand review?

Of course. It's not for VIPs lol.

As you asked the credits are added.

Thanks. Will check the map sometime in the near future

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EDIT:

1. The descriptions in the quest log aren't quite helpful. They're very vague. Basically, this unit is range or melee or caster.
2. Militia and Militia Archers have the same icon. The same: Footman, Spearman and Spartan. Also: Light and Heavy Crossbowman.
3. Kind of redundant and unoriginal to have multiple units have the same spells like the Priest and Priestess having Heal and Healing Wave. And for the Priestess the icon has been changed.
   
4. Abilities need proper descriptions. There's no mention of values and levels when choosing the spell in the ability learn menu. Brilliance Aura doesn't tell you how much even after learning it. Learn about tooltips:
   Tooltip Tutorial
   Creating Good Descriptions
5. Intended to be able to choose the same spell on the next level up instead of once in 2 levels like in the original game?
6. The Priestess' portrait is broken.
   
7. Ability hotkeys are a mess. Heal and Healing Wave both require E.
8. You could add the income in the multiboard.
9. Zombies sometimes return from whence they came and stand there near the map edge. And they don't come even with the next waves.
   
10. Because there are many zombies and all belonging to the same player, they start stuttering instead of coming in a normal flow.
11. Warcraft III spells and items recycled.
12. You could improve the unit descriptions by adding range, damage, health values.
13. Footman has a broken portrait.
14. There's little to no difference between the Footman and the Spearman. Same attack type, spells and armour type. Same with the Light and Heavy Crossbowmen and Footarcher.
    
15. Units should be differentiated, each having a strategical role, not be "improved" copies of each other.
    
16. Castle has Call to Arms which is useless.
17. Would be nice to have more unit types than archers and bipedal warriors like cavalry, artillery (various types).
18. Upgrades for units and stuff to diversify and improve them.
19. Zombies don't attack sheep.
20. Enemy diversity is kind of lacking. What about some bosses/heroes and siege weapons of their own?

Awaiting Update.

(previous comments: Last Humanity)

 

[Ashenguard]

Of course. It's not for VIPs lol.

Thanks. Will check the map sometime in the near future

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EDIT:

1. The descriptions in the quest log aren't quite helpful. They're very vague. Basically, this unit is range or melee or caster.
2. Militia and Militia Archers have the same icon. The same: Footman, Spearman and Spartan. Also: Light and Heavy Crossbowman.
3. Kind of redundant and unoriginal to have multiple units have the same spells like the Priest and Priestess having Heal and Healing Wave. And for the Priestess the icon has been changed.
   
4. Abilities need proper descriptions. There's no mention of values and levels when choosing the spell in the ability learn menu. Brilliance Aura doesn't tell you how much even after learning it. Learn about tooltips:
   Tooltip Tutorial
   Creating Good Descriptions
5. Intended to be able to choose the same spell on the next level up instead of once in 2 levels like in the original game?
6. The Priestess' portrait is broken. View attachment 342169
   
7. Ability hotkeys are a mess. Heal and Healing Wave both require E.
8. You could add the income in the multiboard.
9. Zombies sometimes return from whence they came and stand there near the map edge. And they don't come even with the next waves. View attachment 342170
   
10. Because there are many zombies and all belonging to the same player, they start stuttering instead of coming in a normal flow.
11. Warcraft III spells and items recycled.
12. You could improve the unit descriptions by adding range, damage, health values.
13. Footman has a broken portrait.
14. There's little to no difference between the Footman and the Spearman. Same attack type, spells and armour type. Same with the Light and Heavy Crossbowmen and Footarcher.
    
15. Units should be differentiated, each having a strategical role, not be "improved" copies of each other.
    
16. Castle has Call to Arms which is useless.
17. Would be nice to have more unit types than archers and bipedal warriors like cavalry, artillery (various types).
18. Upgrades for units and stuff to diversify and improve them.
19. Zombies don't attack sheep.
20. Enemy diversity is kind of lacking. What about some bosses/heroes and siege weapons of their own?

Awaiting Update.

(previous comments: Last Humanity)

Map updated, trying to fix or remove what you've said.

Also make some more changes.

 

[deepstrasz]

1. Still renamed Warcraft III spells; items too.
2. Fail to see how can the Knight use Defend being mounted on such a big animal.
3. There is still not enough uniqueness in what units are concerned. There's just some values and a spell difference between the archers for instance.
4. Ability descriptions still don't mention the value changes for each level when learning them (in the learn ability menu).
5. The Defend ability has been renamed to Shield and its hotkey became S like the Stop command's.
6. Gifted units play the Gift animation constantly until moved by the receiver.
7. There needs to be more enemy variation as well. The game gets repetitive quite quickly.

There are many maps of the genre you can take inspiration from.

Awaiting Update.

(previous comments: Last Humanity)

 

[MuckCZE]

I like it it look better.

 

[deepstrasz]

Waiting for more updates. Until then Substandard. It's been over 3 months.

(previous comments: Last Humanity)