HaradrimAssassin

[Moderator]

10:55, 12th Feb 2014
MiniMage: Something about the head looks off, it needs some work. It doesn't need much, just a little tweak and I think it'll be approvable in terms of design.
However, filesize wise, it needs to be lowered by a lot. It is far too big to be useful in its current stage.

23:47, 12th Feb 2014
MiniMage: Hmm.. You redesigned the head into more of a bandit. Most interesting choice. However, you still have a lot of filesize to cut down, it is still way too much.

22:53, 28th Feb 2014
MiniMage: The death sound effect is that of a woman. Was this intentionally? Setting it to needs fix until it has been clarified if it was a mistake or not. If it indeed is a mistake, fix it.

16:02, 5th Mar 2014
MiniMage: Changes made, approved.

 

[Heinvers]

Looks interesting. Just some things to improve: the shoulders seem a bit little, especially when the spell channeling animation occurs. Also the legs are a bit to large imo. You could slim them a little, after all this is an assassin, and needs to remain agile. Other than that it's cool. I'd give it a 3.9/5 or 4/5.

 

[Misha]

something looks off to me, about that guy's head.. it feels kinda shapeless..

 

[Uncle Fester]

Looks interesting. Just some things to improve: the shoulders seem a bit little, especially when the spell channeling animation occurs. Also the legs are a bit to large imo. You could slim them a little, after all this is an assassin, and needs to remain agile. Other than that it's cool. I'd give it a 3.9/5 or 4/5.

changed that. Thx for telling me. I stretched a bit the upper body and made the shoulders and the upper chest a bit broader.

something looks off to me, about that guy's head.. it feels kinda shapeless..

He? Shapeless? ......it's just a modified version of the Haradrim Swordsman's headpiece.

 

[Misha]

changed that. Thx for telling me. I stretched a bit the upper body and made the shoulders and the upper chest a bit broader.

He? Shapeless? ......it's just a modified version of the Haradrim Swordsman's headpiece.

well it just looks odd to me it isn't that perfect fit like it is on the swordsman

 

[Strikest]

the screen shot makes the head look like it has a big red nose lol, at first I thought it was a sesame street character XD...
But it looks nice in game

 

[Edge45]

Those wrappings on his face are kinda a little deep, but nice blade, looks sharp, 4/5 to me

 

[GreeN!X]

That head is huge... or the body is small? Or maybe it's just the headress making the head way too big. I'm not sure but I don't think it's going to be comfy for an assassin to have such a big head (or headress)

 

[Chen]

Cool! Dat Blade, can that cut me?

 

[Mike]

Great assassin! I think the only thing left to do - is to make shoulders more big.

 

[Uncle Fester]

well it just looks odd to me it isn't that perfect fit like it is on the swordsman

OK......sounds a bit strange to me, coz the changes made when taking it from the Swordsman were minimal

the screen shot makes the head look like it has a big red nose lol, at first I thought it was a sesame street character XD...
But it looks nice in game

Lol, sesame street character? Hehe, ty

That head is huge... or the body is small? Or maybe it's just the headress making the head way too big. I'm not sure but I don't think it's going to be comfy for an assassin to have such a big head (or headress)

Well, while making it, i first thought of keeping the Swordsman's head as is, but then i thought it would be better to bring in more variation among my Haradrim collection. Will see, if more ppl complain about the head, I'll change it into a cape.

Cool! Dat Blade, can that cut me?

hehe, thx

Great assassin! I think the only thing left to do - is to make shoulders more big.

Glad to hear that. In which way? Higher, broader or both?

 

[Mike]

Better both. A little bit higher and a little bit broader.

 

[InfernalTater]

It's hard to explain, but the whole thing just doesn't feel right. I wish I could point out how to fix it, but I'm not even sure what's wrong, I just know that it isn't right.

There is one small problem that I can identify, though, the one little thing I can point out to try to help you: The wrap on the face. There's a little black line down the middle. This sort of thing happens way more often than it should with too many people's models. I won't bother explaining how to fix it, because you've made lots and lots of models by now, and I'm sure you already know what you need to do.

Hopefully somebody will figure out how to advise you in fixing the overall style of the model in the future, I'm stumped as to what specifically could be done to improve its look while preserving its theme.

2/5. Quality-wise it's pretty much average and would have been a 3/5, but the file size is way too big; it's going to need to either look a lot better to justify the current 263 KB package, or fit into a much smaller box to justify the current look.

Edit: I'm raising my rating to a 3/5, the file size is much better now at 164 KB.

 

[Uncle Fester]

Better both. A little bit higher and a little bit broader.

O.K. The mod also talked with me about that model, so i think i will also change the head.

It's hard to explain, but the whole thing just doesn't feel right. I wish I could point out how to fix it, but I'm not even sure what's wrong, I just know that it isn't right.

There is one small problem that I can identify, though, the one little thing I can point out to try to help you: The wrap on the face. There's a little black line down the middle. This sort of thing happens way more often than it should with too many people's models. I won't bother explaining how to fix it, because you've made lots and lots of models by now, and I'm sure you already know what you need to do.

Hopefully somebody will figure out how to advise you in fixing the overall style of the model in the future, I'm stumped as to what specifically could be done to improve its look while preserving its theme.

2/5. Quality-wise it's pretty much average and would have been a 3/5, but the file size is way too big; it's going to need to either look a lot better to justify the current 263 KB package, or fit into a much smaller box to justify the current look.

A black line in the face? that's strange i couldn't see any before i uploaded it....well, i guess it's a skinning matter. That's easily fixed though, and yes, it happens if certain parts of certain ingame models are used as is. Btw, is it @ the portrait or the actual model?
Yeah, i know. I guess i'll make some major changes next week (Thursday or wednesday) on it. I'm also thinking about changing the entire headpart, as there came some complaints about it.

 

[InfernalTater]

O.K. The mod also talked with me about that model, so i think i will also change the head.

A black line in the face? that's strange i couldn't see any before i uploaded it....well, i guess it's a skinning matter. That's easily fixed though, and yes, it happens if certain parts of certain ingame models are used as is. Btw, is it @ the portrait or the actual model?
Yeah, i know. I guess i'll make some major changes next week (Thursday or wednesday) on it. I'm also thinking about changing the entire headpart, as there came some complaints about it.

The line is very thin; it happens when your wrap is too close to the edge of a part of the texture. It's very easy to fix.

 

[Uncle Fester]

The line is very thin; it happens when your wrap is too close to the edge of a part of the texture. It's very easy to fix.

Yeah, i know. I've been fixing this specific issue a dozen of times.

 

[Heinvers]

Looking good so far. A small part of his mouth veil clips through his head cloak when he has Stand anim. Now the head cloak you gave him looks great.
Edit: Yes, he looks really fitting for an assassin. The blades are a bit small in my opinion. That could be just my imagination :3

 

[Misha]

hu.. I'd say this now looks pretty cool, head-wise.. but also it feels like it needs more to it.. it's kinda bland, y'know.. and could use something around his torso and back.. poncho? cloak?, armor? anything that can 'hang a bit' if you get me..

 

[InfernalTater]

The head looks better, now, but the model as a whole still doesn't look right, it's missing something.

 

[Uncle Fester]

Looking good so far. A small part of his mouth veil clips through his head cloak when he has Stand anim. Now the head cloak you gave him looks great.
Edit: Yes, he looks really fitting for an assassin. The blades are a bit small in my opinion. That could be just my imagination :3

In the model or the portrait? That must be fixed.
The blades are supposed to be daggers like this one.

hu.. I'd say this now looks pretty cool, head-wise.. but also it feels like it needs more to it.. it's kinda bland, y'know.. and could use something around his torso and back.. poncho? cloak?, armor? anything that can 'hang a bit' if you get me..

More to it? Aren't 248kb enough? A poncho?? That would be a rly new style for assassins...... I intentionally left him little armos and no cloak as it would somewhat interfere from the physics and logic with the Demonhunter anims. Jumping and turning in the air while hitting a target would be very bothersome with a cloak, the cloak could even be hindrance in such a case. The same for the armor: the more one carries, the lesser possibilities and the speed of moves.

The head looks better, now, but the model as a whole still doesn't look right, it's missing something.

Maybe it's just unusual coz there aren't many assassins with mainly cloth armor.

 

[Misha]

don't mind me then.

but you should take a look how it looks with optimization and linearized anims

 

[Heinvers]

In the model or the portrait? That must be fixed.

In the model. It's just a small clipping.

 

[Uncle Fester]

don't mind me then.

but you should take a look how it looks with optimization and linearized anims

Optimization from MDLVIS? Linearized anims? How can that be made? Oh, and do you maybe have an idea about how i can cut down the filesize a bit? It's still huge.

In the model. It's just a small clipping.

Oh, shame! I think i should model more frequently. My skills obviously started rusting with the long breaks.

 

[InfernalTater]

Optimization from MDLVIS? Linearized anims? How can that be made? Oh, and do you maybe have an idea about how i can cut down the filesize a bit? It's still huge.

That's actually what optimization and linearized animations are for.

 

[Uncle Fester]

That's actually what optimization and linearized animations are for.

I did that with MDLVIS before i uploaded the model. Though, MiniMage suggested me another program too, which i will try.

 

[Heinvers]

Well the portrait model behaves good, the animations for it are smooth
The main model looks great, but it lack something. I would listen to Misha, some kind of cloth around his torso or a wrapping would do imo. Anyway the head cloak....well you've done a great job there.

 

[InfernalTater]

It's much better now, I raised my rating to a 3/5 as its quality and file size are pretty much average now (average as in the average acceptable model to smoothly integrate into a game -- not average as in what the average person would create, because the average person isn't capable of creating an acceptable model).

I hope to see this improved more in the future.

 

[Midasowski]

Nice! I love Haradrim models

 

[GreeN!X]

The head looks way better now uncle. GJ! ^^

 

[Uncle Fester]

Well the portrait model behaves good, the animations for it are smooth
The main model looks great, but it lack something. I would listen to Misha, some kind of cloth around his torso or a wrapping would do imo. Anyway the head cloak....well you've done a great job there.

I don't know about the cloak.....IMO it would be rather disturbing with such attack movements.

It's much better now, I raised my rating to a 3/5 as its quality and file size are pretty much average now (average as in the average acceptable model to smoothly integrate into a game -- not average as in what the average person would create, because the average person isn't capable of creating an acceptable model).

I hope to see this improved more in the future.

Wow! The science of modeling and model creation, eh? I don't know.....i just don't like the idea of adding a cloak to a model that jumps while striking.....IMO this would be a roadblock in reality.

Nice! I love Haradrim model

The Haradrim collection is nearly complete.....it just needs some more cavalry, 1 or 2 more heroes, 1 or 2 buildings and the Mumakil, ofc.

The head looks way better now uncle. GJ! ^^

Thx

 

[InfernalTater]

Wow! The science of modeling and model creation, eh? I don't know.....i just don't like the idea of adding a cloak to a model that jumps while striking.....IMO this would be a roadblock in reality.

I never said anything about adding a cloak in my post which you were supposedly replying to, or any of my other posts either.

 

[Uncle Fester]

I never said anything about adding a cloak in my post which you were supposedly replying to, or any of my other posts either.

Ups! Srry. Just confused it with the upper posts. Well, this happens when multiquoting too many messages.

 

[Heinvers]

Ups! Srry. Just confused it with the upper posts.

Uncle, that can happen to anyone. Don't worry. Btw the model turns out well.

 

[Uncle Fester]

Uncle, that can happen to anyone. Don't worry. Btw the model turns out well.

Thank you, dear neffew.

 

[Sin'dorei300]

I'd suggest u making his hood the same color with his cloth or vice-versa.

 

[Uncle Fester]

I'd suggest u making his hood the same color with his cloth or vice-versa.

It's supposed to be 2 cloths (seperate parts). The normal body clothes and the hood as a seperate pice, like in World of Warcraft. It's not supposed to be an overroll.

 

[Heinvers]

Uncle! I was a bit disappointed when it was removed, or was my imagination of being removed?!? Anyway it's still good, the file size is ok now.

 

[JesusHipster]

Why don't you capture models while playing an animation

 

[Uncle Fester]

Uncle! I was a bit disappointed when it was removed, or was my imagination of being removed?!? Anyway it's still good, the file size is ok now.

It was never removed.....it was only in the "Needs fix" section for a while.

Why don't you capture models while playing an animation

I do that here and then......but mostly not.

 

[Usrine]

Looks like a rogue wearing Wrathion's Gear

 

[Heinvers]

That's not Wrathion's gear! And uncle please, could you give him some better daggers? Maybe a bit broader?!?

 

[Uncle Fester]

Looks like a rogue wearing Wrathion's Gear

Who's Wrathion?

That's not Wrathion's gear! And uncle please, could you give him some better daggers? Maybe a bit broader?!?

The anims are actually for daggers, not shortswords. I think the next bigger version of a blade-weapon would be a shortsword, considering the size.

 

[BandolXD]

Another resources by Uncle !

 

[Uncle Fester]

Another resources by Uncle !

....and more will follow soon

 

[Mickey Frogeater]

Focusing on the forces of evil like Harad, Easterlings, Minas Morgul, Mordor, Dol Guldur, Isengard armies, Dunlanders, Misty Mountains denizens or Moria?

 

[Uncle Fester]

Focusing on the forces of evil like Harad, Easterlings, Minas Morgul, Mordor, Dol Guldur, Isengard armies, Dunlanders, Misty Mountains denizens or Moria?

not necessarely. I am making many different models, not only LOTR.

 

[N.Knight]

Hi there old pal
nice, we need more exotic looking character models. Make more turban heads, perhaps a Haradim villager will be cool, yes?
+rep

 

[Uncle Fester]

Hi there old pal
nice, we need more exotic looking character models. Make more turban heads, perhaps a Haradim villager will be cool, yes?
+rep

Hi my friend! How're you doing? Yeah, i am planning to make more Haradrim models, especially some looking like africans (Numidian style and such) thx

 

[Usrine]

what is haradrim again