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Is it worth patching to 1.30?

Discussion in 'Patch Discussion' started by sentrywiz, Jan 21, 2019.

  1. sentrywiz

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    I still have my old 1.26 version of warcraft.

    Is it worth patching to 1.30?
    Are there worthy changes in world editor ?
    Except the max players limit raise and max terrain tiles ?

    Those of you that have 1.30+ and are happy with it, let me know.
    Thanks!
     
  2. Sir Moriarty

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    I'd say... no.

    Memory Hack on 1.26 provides you with all the capabilities that the modern patches brought, and even more. If you are not concerned with security of your own PC, or only play with friends, there's not much reason to upgrade.

    The patches have for the most part been a very mixed bag. While we did get some new and improved features, like extra natives, native widescreen, cross-realm hosting out of the box, they don't justify upgrading to 1.30 in my book. Not to mention the myriad of extra bugs that were introduced, and are still being slowly fixed.

    So, no, if you're fine with 1.26, then hold off on updating. Perhaps, when Blizzard brings something else to the board, it might be worth upgrading.
     
  3. Warseeker

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    Yes and no.

    Yes, because most of the maps nowadays require the latest patch in order to work properly, and the editor received a lot of cool features.
    No, because the recent patches have caused major problems and bugs to so many people. The good thing, however, is that those bugs are being addressed and they will slowly but surely be fixed.
     
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  4. sentrywiz

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    Okay! Thanks . So I can continue to lurk and wait for a stable version.

    EDIT: What is the memory hack on 1.26?
     
  5. deepstrasz

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    I advise having more versions of the game. Keep your 1.26 (although I suggest 1.29.2 instead) somewhere on your HDD and upgrade the original (not the copy I was just referring to) to the latest. That way, you don't have to lose any content.
     
  6. sentrywiz

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    Fair enough, but I can't install another warcraft, so one of the copies will have to be ... a cracked warcraft copy?
     
  7. deepstrasz

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    No. Just copy the folder somewhere else. The registries for the patch will work on the installed one (the non-copy).
     
  8. nuck001

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    Some custom campaigns which were updated recently are only playable in latest patch.For instance, Curse of the Forsaken,Lord of the Clans,and the upcoming Malfurion's Quest no longer support old war3 patches before 1.28.However,you'd better think it over,rushing to war3 1.30+ means farewell to tons of classic masterpieces such as The Chosen Ones,Chasing the Dawn and Wanderers of Sorceria.

    Custom maps are also affected by new patches.As far as I know,Sunken City,a marvelous work of art created by SpasMaster,only support 1.30+ now.Unfortunately,Zwiebelchen,who is the author of the outstanding Gaias Retaliation,is struggling with the bugs caused by new patch.

    It's hard to say whether you should upgrade your warcraft3 or not.It depends on how you value the maps you are playing.
     
  9. pyf

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    You may install the PTR version of the game and find out, since it installs in its own folder and should not interfere with your current version of the game in any way.


    Regarding v1.26a, maybe you will find these two threads to be interesting:
    - [General] - Help to combine Wc3 ver 1.26 with editor compilation
    - WFE - Warcraft Feature Extender

    This should give you an idea of what it is and of what it allows to do:
    - Memory hack
    - Accessing memory from the script - it's time of the revolution
     
  10. sentrywiz

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    Spas is awesome, even though I don't like his sunken city map, its nothing special, or at least it wasn't when I played it.
    Must have been years ago.

    I don't play custom campaigns much, only one I played I forgot the name of :S

    By the looks of it, its not worth risking it. If Warcraft 3: Reforged doesn't suck monkey balls,
    it may be worthy enough to move to it entirely, or maybe try then.

    I read the general jist of it. Seems quite powerful. Sadly I'm not versed enough in jass or pjass
    need to catch up on that if I can keep my patience. Latest thing I'm doing is making an inventory
    system, so any sort of extension I'm willing to try.

    However, I don't get the benefits because all articles are written with mind that you know all that script stuff.

    Does it make it possible to make a "server" of sorts to store player data for example?
    Is it possible to link it to a database of any sort?
     
  11. pyf

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    Maybe you will want to ask that kind of question in one of our memory hacking threads?...
     
  12. sentrywiz

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    No prob. Though a simple yes no would of been enough.
     
  13. pyf

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    ... and what if I do not know the answer to your question?
    :wink:
     
  14. sentrywiz

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    Then just idk would of sufficed.

    But hey, thanks for the links I checked out memory hack.

    Now there is a reason to update -> Apparently if you don't have 1.29 patch, you could theoretically
    download a virus and have your PC bite the dust (if we introduce malicious intent in map making).

    And that's fucking scary!

    And what's worse now I wanna learn how to use it to make a stupid mmorpg map.
     
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    This would not have been enough. This is why I pointed you instead to where the experts in the arcane art of WC3 memory hacking are discussing that subject.
    :wink:

    As long as you download verified maps / campaigns from trusted sources, there is imho little reason to worry.

    Good luck with your project.
    :smile:
     
  16. WhiteFang

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    the answer is a definitive no
     
  17. deepstrasz

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    Without at least one argument?
     
  18. WhiteFang

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    it's my personal answer to be fair,i've only seen lots of issues with the newer patches
    not saying that the definitive answer for everyone is no,just my personal one.Sorry,should have...(insert english word that i can't think of now) my post better to indicate it's my personal answer
     
  19. sentrywiz

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    The fact that there aren't as many new maps as I would of expected
    after the new patches has been an indicator to me atleast that
    the patches aren't that worth it. There might be some really
    good maps past 1.26a that I haven't played.

    The player cap past 12 is the biggest change to me personally,
    and rarely have I witnessed a 12 player brawl... except dota 1
    back in the warcraft 3 days, but even that is 10 players.
    Can't really imagine what use is beyond 12 players,
    not only performance or netcode wise, but which maps
    except online rpg's benefit from this? Would you play a
    20 man melee map? I wouldn't. But that's me.

    I still need to try it, but from the looks of it,
    its better to just wait for Reforged and see
    if the editor is worth it. And the game.
     
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    The system requirements of WC3:R (which are still to be defined afaik) may need to be taken into consideration.