World Editor and Undead Race NOW LIVE

[Archian]

The Reforged World Editor is now live on the Warcraft III: Reforged BETA! If you have access to the BETA, start messing around with the World Editor! Let Blizzard know your thoughts. They really need to hear from us, the map making community. We have 17 years of experience with the World Editor, so whom is better to provide feedback on the new editor than us? Noone can give the mass feedback, that we as a community can compile. Please post your thoughts and general feedback about the Warcraft III: Reforged World Editor in this thread. Test your old maps, comment about the things you like, things you didn't like, any issues that might occur, your concerns etc. Blizzard is listening. Please be constructive and as clear and concise as possible.

Hive Community be like:

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UNDEAD RACE PLAYABLE ON BETA

The multiplayer beta for Warcraft III: Reforged began last week with limited access to the orc and human races within 1v1 and 2v2 matchmaking.
Today the undead race and more game modes have been added, including the beforementioned World Editor!

Invitations to the multiplayer beta will be sent out over the coming weeks. Initial invitations will go out in waves to those who have pre-purchased the Spoils of War edition of the game and subsequent waves of invitations will go to additional players, such as those who have pre-purchased the standard edition of Warcraft III: Reforged.

 

[JaleVeliki]

At last! Hype!

 

[sonphamthe11H]

the model exporter should be a blender pluggin,no one wanna buy another messed up tool from Autodesk.So dissappointed!

 

[Retera]

Hype! Also sonphamthe11H dont troll, even the 2003 War3Art Tools Blizzard released that we had these past two decades required buying an expensive tool to make the models because Blizzard is only focused on making epic content as efficiently as possible at any cost.

If you're disappointed, be disappointed with me for not publishing Retera Model Studio Reforged yet, right? Or maybe with Magos. Where is that guy anyway? Magnus Ostberg? Something something?

Edit: We all want me to make Retera Model Studio Reforged, but there's a half chance that I go home and eat pop CORN instead. What does a matrix eater eat, anyway?

 

[chopinski]

If anyone looking on how to test custom maps, you can open the map you want to test in the new editor and then use the editor test map button.

 

[Uncle]

What are these

• Player - Create Ability Button Effect for Animate Dead and Human Peasant - Repair
• Player - Create Train Button Effect for Peasant
• Player - Create Build Button Effect for Peasant
• Player - Create Research Button Effect for Iron Forged Swords
• Player - Create Learn Button Effect for Animate Dead
• Player - Destroy Button Effect (Last created Button effect)

 

[Kam]

What are these

• Player - Create Ability Button Effect for Animate Dead and Human Peasant - Repair
• Player - Create Train Button Effect for Peasant
• Player - Create Build Button Effect for Peasant
• Player - Create Research Button Effect for Iron Forged Swords
• Player - Create Learn Button Effect for Animate Dead
• Player - Destroy Button Effect (Last created Button effect)

Those allow you indicate that the player should do something on the UI.

 

[Kam]

Make sure you keep backups of your maps from 1.31!

 

[Archian]

If anyone looking on how to test custom maps, you can open the map you want to test in the new editor and then use the editor test map button.

Did you try it yourself? Because, every time I try to test a map, it crashes at the "lion gate". And custom games doesn't seem to be enabled in game.

When I also tried to calculate shadows for a map in the editor it crashed and I got an error message.

Some unit stand animations ingame is laggy. The don't complete the animation cycle.

Some model textures are missing. Realise it's beta, just pointing out any "issues" I find.

Brigdes and other doodads doesn't face the right way when placing them on the map.

 

[Kam]

If you can't test map try playing the game normally once so you login and get a token.

 

[chopinski]

Did you try it yourself? Because, every time I try to test a map, it crashes at the "lion gate". And custom games doesn't seem to be enabled in game.

When I also tried to calculate shadows for a map in the editor it crashed and I got an error message.

Some unit stand animations ingame is laggy. The don't complete the animation cycle.

Some model textures are missing. Realise it's beta, just pointing out any "issues" I find.

Brigdes and other doodads doesn't face the right way when placing them on the map.

Yeah i tried it myself and manage to open the map i'm currently working. Are you trying to open an old map just to test or one of your projects? I also got a few problems with imports and everythink is just to dark. I'm making a compilation of stuff that i'm finding and will post it here or in the new thread created about the editor. About the lag, i'm actually getting pretty decent performance from the game. My map is pretty model heavy (HD) and i'm getting between 120 - 200 FPS constantly, it feels more fluid, kind of hard to explain haha. The editor itself is much smoother i feel like. no code completion though!

 

[Kazeon]

If you can't test map try playing the game normally once so you login and get a token.

I can play test empty map just fine though. But it does not work when I try to play test embercraft. Looks like it's trying to display an error message but failed (attachment - bottom left).

 

[LazZ]

I don't know if this is too much to ask for blizzard, but I would really like to see multidimensional arrays in the Trigger Editor.

 

[Kam]

Have you logged in previously through the normal game client?

 

[Kazeon]

Have you logged in previously through the normal game client?

Yes I did. And again I could play empty custom map, so I suppose it's not a login issue, right?

EDIT:
By the way, lot of custom models went broke:

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[Karutoh]

It would be nice to be able to change a unit's model from a trigger and Jass/LUA.

 

[IamFierce]

Issues I noticed when testing my custom map: Reforged Tournament.

1. Sound of units fighting cannot be heard at camera height distance of 3200 that could previously be heard in 1.31.
2. Map crashes upon saving, but appears to be saving correctly.
3. Human Battleship model not showing.
4. Map takes nearly 15 minutes to open with editor.
5. Set tooltips for abilities does not appear to be working.
6. Cannot save the map as a folder at all.

 

[Archian]

If you can't test map try playing the game normally once so you login and get a token.

Tried making a new basic map with 1 unit, and it loaded seemingly fine. Will try with my other map and test again.

EDIT: Ok, it works now.

 

[Midnighters]

I loaded a classic WC map in Reforged Editor, worked well, however, I went to place a custom unit, and the editor crashed.

 

[IamFierce]

Observation tower model shifts back and forth between observation and cannon tower.

 

[Kam]

Please post the maps, models, or other assets that aren't working.

 

[Bribe]

Hi I've pre-ordered Reforged a year ago and I do not have access to the Beta. Is the Editor also restricted only to those who paid extra for the DLC? Damage Engine support will have to wait (if such a system is even needed anymore - can't tell).

 

[Drakethos]

Anyone else have this happen to them? I opened up a map ive been working on in classic, and my heroes spells have the wrong icons and tooltips like belonging to other spells, and effects even. For instance i have a custom polymorph spell that is just hex but sheep only but its icon in mass teleport and all the art and tooltip is mass teleport. Is that a weird pathing issue. I dont know how i would fix it tbh. wondernig if its a pathing glitch.

 

[Archian]

More testing.

Map worked fine, until I used Thrall's summon spirit wolf ability. The game crashed.

 

[BloodSoul]

Hi I've pre-ordered Reforged a year ago and I do not have access to the Beta. Is the Editor also restricted only to those who paid extra for the DLC? Damage Engine support will have to wait (if such a system is even needed anymore - can't tell).

Open Battle.net app and change your game region / account to "Warcraft III: Reforged Beta".

Side note: World Editor won't launch if you directly attempt to execute it from the game folder (x86), but it works from the battle.net app.

 

[BloodMood97]

I tested my custom Arena map into wc3 Reforged and there are some visual bugs. So check :

 

[KitsuneTailsPrower]

Just to be sure I'm not going insane, the "custom games" option is greyed out for everyone else too right?

 

[chopinski]

And here are the thinks that i noticed so far:

1 - Most imported assets are not working (Could not load error)

Classic World Editor


Reforged World Editor


2 - The game seems too dark, i dont know if its the gama or the custom models lack something that the new revamped engine needs in order to make them look as they should.

Classic World Editor


Reforged World Editor


3 - It seems that the terrain texture path overriding is no longer working as well. I wonder if the custom lightnings like the @Spellbound pack will also be buggy. might be a good idea to give it a look.

Classic World Editor


Reforged World Editor


4 - It also seems that the method we use to create custom loading screens is not working as well. Its only using the LoadingScreenBL part.

Classic Loading Screen


Reforged Loading Screen


5 - Icons are not working properly as well, some work, some dont

Some In Game pics

Classic


Reforged


Regarding the models, i think i can upload Muradin's and Sylvanas models since they are from Heroes of the Storm, so i should give credits to Blizzard for creating the models and to nerthfill from the Warcraft Underground community for ripping them.

About uploading the map, i could do it, but its a 90 mb file and i would have to ask for permission from @YourArthas and the guys that created the Rebirth Mod to do it since i'm using a few of their models and they have a disclaimer. But if they do i wouldnt mind, because i was already planning on releasing the map, if permissions granted, as a guide to new map makers that want to learn Jass and vJass since i've already written 25000 lines of code on it.

Apart from all of those bugs, if you guys give it a good look at the Reforged In Game Pics, you will see that, for the custom models that are working, the game can create their shadow perfectly!! Thats Cools AF!!

 

[Wazzz]

Been having a look around at some of the ingame stuff for reforged in the world editor, it's looking pretty cool so far, although I kind of wonder if they're going to stick with the same Blood Elf aesthetic for the High Elves in the campaign.
Also noticed a few strange things, like Naisha's model doesn't exist, for some reason the Ghost unit flies up pretty high while the banshee floats just above the ground despite being at the same elevation (if you set the height of the banshee to 0, it will actually fall through the ground).
I'm also wondering, will campaign building models be given birth and work animations? Some of them still don't seem to have them, but given it's still a work in progress I'm wondering how far in depth these sorts of things will go.

 

[BloodSoul]

Anyone else have this happen to them? I opened up a map ive been working on in classic, and my heroes spells have the wrong icons and tooltips like belonging to other spells, and effects even.

Yeah, I just noticed it too. In my case, my custom hero was based on the Mountain King hero, and all of his custom spells had their icons and normal tooltips changed to Mountain King's default ones (storm bolt, thunder clap, etc). The tooltip - learn field is still how it's supposed to be, tho.

 

[mf-shroom]

Summary of a few issues I reported on the blizzard forum as well as some new ones I found with maps that I tested attached.

1. Errors with learned hero custom abilities, their tooltips and icons.

When using the editor to load a map with custom abilities, all tooltips and icons used previously look to have transitioned properly in the object editor pane.

However, after having tried several different maps, it seems that while in the ‘learn ability’ pane for a hero, these custom abilities will be given an arbitrary icon not necessarily relating to the base ability. At this stage, the tooltip is still the custom tooltip specified in the editor. Once the ability is learned, both the icon and the tooltip are no longer the custom tooltip, but some default tooltip associated with the icon.

Additionally, when casting the custom ability that has a changed icon, a default effect associated with the ability the icon represents is also played.

Summary:

• In Editor: Custom Tooltip, Custom Icon
• In ‘Learn Ability’ Pane: Custom Tooltip, Random Icon
• In ‘Hero Ability’ Pane: Default Tooltip, Random Icon

2. Error with tooltip on non-learned custom abilities on pre-placed units.

• Some pre-placed units with custom abilities that are not learned show a 'tooltip missing' and a random icon when looking at them.
• Does not seem to affect units spawned with triggers.

3. Error with 'model file extra version' selection in editor

Certain units which have multiple designs based on either RoC or TFT are unable to change from their frozen throne version to the reign of chaos version using the ‘model file extra version’ selection option in the editor.

Some examples for races in beta (RoC/TFT):

• Priest/Priest
• Sorceress/Sorceress
• Steam Tank/Siege Engine
• Catapult/Demolisher
• Gyrocopter/Flying Machine

4. Error with loading some default models in editor

Certain unit models do not load properly in editor and show up as a green checkered cube, but they do work in game. There are probably quite a few more than this.

Examples:

• Archmonde
• Kel’thuzad Ghost
• Shade

Map Tested: "Nexus 1.13 TFT", screenshot attached

5. Miscellaneous feedback

• Shallow water in editor is almost invisible, deep water is visible but does not look very deep.
• Abilities that cluster lots of lights in a big burst create big square shadows on terrain. (Screenshot Attached)
• Loading screen picture very zoomed in for some loading screens (For Example the Default Credits Screen)
• Default Clawmaster orc model not updated for orcs.

 

[Wazzz]

Well that's weird, the Shade model works fine for me in Editor
Actually, so does Kel'thuzad Ghost and Archimonde
But the Naisha one doesn't, so I'm wondering if that one works for you while the ones that didn't work for you work for me

BTW, check out the Detheroc model for Chungus Dreadlord

 

[mf-shroom]

Interesting, I tried naisha, but it doesnt work for me in addition to the three I looked at before.

 

[Bribe]

Open Battle.net app and change your game region / account to "Warcraft III: Reforged Beta".

Side note: World Editor won't launch if you directly attempt to execute it from the game folder (x86), but it works from the battle.net app.

Thank you! I've now downloaded it.

Is there anything NEW in the World Editor besides the Dialogue Editor (which doesn't seem to do anything)?

I've checked the Object Editor/Manager and trigger module, they're all the same.

 

[Wazzz]

Thank you! I've now downloaded it.

Is there anything NEW in the World Editor besides the Dialogue Editor (which doesn't seem to do anything)?

I've checked the Object Editor/Manager and trigger module, they're all the same.

It might just be me, but so far it looks like it's just World Editor with the ingame models changed to WoW models
But it's all worth it for Chungus Detheroc

 

[Bribe]

It might just be me, but so far it looks like it's just World Editor with the ingame models changed to WoW models
But it's all worth it for Chungus Detheroc

A severe letdown of my would-be coding expectations, to be sure.

 

[Kazeon]

Tried making a new basic map with 1 unit, and it loaded seemingly fine. Will try with my other map and test again.

EDIT: Ok, it works now.

How did you do it exactly? Can you elaborate? I think I did more or less the same thing, but didn't work for me:

1. Launched the game (I was looking for the launch editor button)
2. Exited the game (then I discovered the launch button at the battle.net window)
3. Launched the editor
4. Opened my map, loads just fine (except for some incompatible models)
5. Play-tested the map (did not work)
6. Created a new empty map with some pre-placed units, played the map successfully
7. Opened my map again, still can't play it

 

[sonphamthe11H]

Hype! Also sonphamthe11H dont troll, even the 2003 War3Art Tools Blizzard released that we had these past two decades required buying an expensive tool to make the models because Blizzard is only focused on making epic content as efficiently as possible at any cost.

If you're disappointed, be disappointed with me for not publishing Retera Model Studio Reforged yet, right? Or maybe with Magos. Where is that guy anyway? Magnus Ostberg? Something something?

Edit: We all want me to make Retera Model Studio Reforged, but there's a half chance that I go home and eat pop CORN instead. What does a matrix eater eat, anyway?

just trolling bro,dont be so serious )

 

[Chaosy]

I only prepurchased the standard edition feelsbadman

 

[Bribe]

I only prepurchased the standard edition feelsbadman

You can still play the Beta by launching the Battle.net app and change your region to WarCraft 3 Reforged beta.

 

[MN Lahmar]

We have 17 years of experience with the World Editor, so whom is better to provide feedback on the new editor than us?

This made me feel so proud.

My main concern is whether the Reforged WE will include new features such as Damage Detection (and by that i mean simple GUI Events and conditions, like for example Unit takes damage - damage Type equals to Spell) that will allow us to make custom spells way easier.

And If we can use 2 abilities based on the same one, using different buffs (This became doable after 1.30 as long as the 2 abilities have different ID's). But instead of having a limited set of ID's, we can simply allow the user to create ID's.

And do we still have to deal with Memory Leaks?

 

[Chaosy]

Oh. Thanks.

 

[Wazzz]

Admittedly, I was kind of hoping for new aspects in the Object Editor to make it more accessible, but I'm not sure how that would work since they seem to want to make it compatible with what you do in the legacy WE.

 

[Stockton209]

So are all those old wc3 maps lost? Things like Spellcraft, Uther Party, Wilderness Survival, Island troll tribes. Because dont the majority have protection on so you cant load them into editor?

Does this mean it will still be a few years before theres custom maps worth playing because the majority will have to be built from the ground up?

 

[MyPad]

New functions related to the game:

• Game - Create Save Checkpoint
• Game - Create Save Checkpoint
• Game - Start Recording
• Game - End Recording

These new functions exist, and are called "functions" because one is for a Campaign save checkpoint and another is a map save checkpoint.

• Attack Range
  • Events
    • Player - Player 1 (Red) skips a cinematic sequence
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Custom script: bj_wantDestroyGroup = true
    • Unit Group - Pick every unit in (Units currently selected by Player 1 (Red)) and do (Actions)
      • Loop - Actions
        • Game - Display to (All players) for 30.00 seconds the text: ((Name of (Picked unit)) + ('s Attack Range: + (String((Unit: (Picked unit)'s Weapon Real Field: Attack Range ('ua1m') at Index:1)))))

Getting the attack range of each unit still returns 0.00 .

For some reason, the following ForGroup call to this particular group crashes on my end:

• Unit Group - Pick every unit in (Units owned by Player 1 (Red).) and do (Actions)
  • Loop - Actions
    • Game - Display to (All players) for 30.00 seconds the text: ((Name of (Picked unit)) + ('s Attack Range: + (String((Unit: (Picked unit)'s Weapon Real Field: Attack Range ('ua1m') at Index:1)))))

• Unit - Set Unit Skin of (unit) to (integer)

This is quite odd. The function expects the second parameter to be an actual integer instead of rawcode.

EDIT:

A weird glitch occurs with the icons and the unit display. This occurs when the map is in SD mode.

Preview

Before option changes

Option Changes:

Result:

Extra (Wrong icon for ability):

(The skin of the archmage is set to lich, and all abilities will display the latter's accordingly, but will reflect that of the former's abilities)​

 

[Regent_Artiman]

Please add a trigger that applies a texture on a model
For example, I want to make a spell that freezes the target. That trigger apply Ice\snow texture on the model
Or I want to make units with low HP, covered in blood. With that trigger, I can apply a blood-drops texture on the model.

Does anyone agree with me?

 

[azgarol]

UMSWE support would be appreciated. You cant use GUI without it. For example you can't create i footmans, where "i" is a local variable, in GUI, since unlike with umswe you can't insert custom scripts inside the fields of actions and conditions.

This is pretty much the only UMSWE functionality that is vital. So if RWE won't support UMSWE, it still needs this feature.

But if this feature is to be added, it would save people a lot of time if it would also has backward compatibility with the same feature from the custom editors. Sorry for russian screenshots.

Also the conversion to custom text of triggers is made much better, that's great, however the font is unreadable, bring back TESH.

 

[Lord_Earthfire]

@azgarol: this is already doable in GUI via custom scripts if you just set the varables beforehand or define global variables as locals in the beginning of the trigger (well, it bites itself with the GUI if/then/else blocks, because of the way these are absolutely atrocious converted in jass)

 

[MasterBlaster]

My main concern is whether the Reforged WE will include new features

Well, if I understand correctly, there isn't really much in terms of new features in the editor beta right now, which is a shame. Hopefully it's just the first version and we'll start seeing some new stuff with future beta updates.

 

[azgarol]

@azgarol: this is already doable in GUI via custom scripts if you just set the varables beforehand or define global variables as locals in the beginning of the trigger (well, it bites itself with the GUI if/then/else blocks, because of the way these are absolutely atrocious converted in jass)

If I am using custom script for every single action what's the point of using GUI anyway? It is doable, but GUI is not viable without custom scripts inside GUI actions like on the screenshot from my previous post.