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Warcraft 3 Reforged

Discussion in 'Latest Updates and News' started by Archian, Nov 2, 2018.

  1. Anaxie

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    Yeah see this is what scares me

    ALL THE OLD maps layouts GONE
    Custom Campaigns? how will they NOT break?
    Culling of Stratholme at blizzcon has NO PRIST OR SORCERESS UNITS. Far diff then them being buildable in WC3 Legacy

    WIth Bnet integration keeping a Legacy old patch install is going to be impossible or hell jumping through hoops.

    They are removing the old game essentially the way I interpret this and that is NOT okay. Everyone should backup their current WC3 now and keep it far away from bnet if they want to have reforged and not have their old game go bye bye.
     
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    Okay, I've posted your stuff. If you come up with anything else (or anyone else wants their questions posted in the MMO-champ thread), just let me know.
     
  3. deepstrasz

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    No, they're not doing that. They're going with it in parallel like with the first StarCraft (+Remastered).
    If they would do what you wrote, I'm sure there are enough conservatives in California for an unpeaceful boycott.
     
  4. Anaxie

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    How can you toggle graphics and expect the old game when the map campaign layouts are entirely changed.

    Blizzcons Stratholme VS Classic This won't be the only case I'm sure Silvermoon with the Sunwell location and most others will be entirely remade.

    losing the OLD game is NOT acceptable a toggle is insufficient. hope they plan on having Legacy and Reforged Campaign Selection.

    This is the #1 Question everyone should ask.

    @Kam

    Can we have ANY insight here?
     
  5. deepstrasz

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    Man. The Campaigns are something else. The engine, as they imply, is overlapped so basically you kind of toggle from a game to another (hidden executables or the same executable for various files to be executed).
     
  6. MasterBlaster

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    I mean, it's pretty obvious that the graphics toggle will just work for graphics, i.e. you will still have the new layouts of the campaign maps.

    The real question here is will there be an option to play the campaign with the old layouts?
     
  7. deepstrasz

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    Yes but I guess only on the classic mode and not with Reforged.
     
  8. Tuwnew

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    A lot of models are just not made yet.
    That's maybe why there are no priests nor sorceress. @Anaxie
     
  9. Anaxie

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    But we don't know if there will even be a classic mode.

    Better to clarify now to get response so the Masses can demand a Classic Campaign Selection.

    As I see it right now this is 2 completely diff games. which is awesome
    But I won't erase My OLD favorite game for something new and entirely different with only similarity being story.

    with this should also be 2 editors with stuff already made because again. I'm skeptical it won't destroy custom campaigns entirely.

    I don't get why they even update the base game and didn't just make a brand new one and executable. all this patching hell the last year + could of been avoided.
     
  10. deepstrasz

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    As @Anaxie wrote on the first thread, would the Exodus of the Horde or what's it called (that official custom campaign with Thrall) not make it to Reforged?
    We know. They said the games can be toggled from one to another.
     
  11. Anaxie

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    in those exact words?

    just wish executables were seperate. Patchings going to become more frequent just like SC1 is now meaning everything custom will be broken monthly 2 seperate installs one locked entirely off from Bnet somehow is almost mandatory.

    Unless you hate every single custom campaign on the Hive.

    it's really an uneeded headache :( classic being playable with reforged tells you to expect weekly or frequent patching with the outlook of multiplayer ladder being the main concern.
     
  12. deepstrasz

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    Let's not off-topic the other thread.

    Many maps are broken right now without Reforged. They will (hopefully) fix the issues and everything will work fine on the classic version. More patches won't mean breaking compatibility if they don't edit things related to that. If they add new natives and such, that means something on top not a change. We'll see.
     
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    Sc remastered is a IN GAME toggle
    you can do it during the mission.

    This is impossible with Entirely different map layouts.

    Starcraft 1 is a Remaster
    Warcraft 3 is a Remake The name Reforged also implies this.

    Warcraft 3 and Starcraft 1 reboots are very different beasts.

    Yes but what I mean is maps breaking is going to be a weekly rather than month - 2/3 month occurance and being Bnet integrated good luck opting OUT of updating like many people on Hive Currently do.

    This should be a concern.
     
  14. Daffa the Mage

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    Personally, on the positive light, this is a big deal. GRAPHICS! EMPOWERED WORLD EDITOR.
    Inversely, the graphic also causes the whole breakup with what communities have so far.

    In my opinion, this remaster is mostly to get some cash flowing from Warcraft 3 foremost. If it sold well, then the patches can keep flowing. IMO.

    I'm on 6:4 right now, tilting toward positive.
     
  15. Anaxie

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    ummm...

    There was a trailer. They are done.

    They just decided you don't get them in Strat 2.0
     
  16. deepstrasz

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    Hence why I wrote toggle between games. And yes, you'll probably have to do that in the menu and not directly ingame unless you're playing melee or something.
    Let's hope for the best first.
    Even so, I just hope they don't kill us with microtransactions for skins and stuff like with StarCraft II.
     
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    There were not in the trailers.
    Everything is not yet finished.

    The Nigth Elves for example. Nothing is shown yet.


    Stratholme was also a DEMO mission. Pretty sure it will be different in the final release (inside the campaign).
     
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    Hi :D

    It's these kind of BlizzCon announcements that make sure I'll be posting here for a long long time.. haha.
     
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    Best case: new functionality (e.g. inventory hotkeys), improved pathfinding, advanced vanilla editor with in-build tools for greater customization

    Worst case: mostly graphic overhaul, WoW'ification with future expansions, cash-grab

    i'm on the fence on this one...
     
  20. Bribe

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    Expansions are just fine. You can buy them or not. The only thing that kept me from WoW after all these years was and has been the monthly subscription price. That concept can die in a fire.

    When Frozen Throne came out, I was mostly excited for the Phoenix. I can't wait to see what she looks like in Reforged. The Game Informer article has me feeling nostalgic AF.

    I bought Reign of Chaos the same month it came out (I already had been a big fan of Tides of Darkness) and Frozen Throne maybe a week later.

    If you think I'm old, step aside junior.