That would be silly and frankly a sham. I've payed for the games already. The bugs are not my problem, it's theirs. Only thing they could do is charge new content patches but few people would agree with that.
No, no, no. I'm asking if Reforged was basically just a bug fixing patch, would you buy it? Cause as far as I understand that's mostly what the "purists" are asking for.
I've no idea what feedback you're reading. I have to say, I don't read everything on B.net forums. Who asks such a thing is an imbecile.
Oh yeah. I saw Stalkers, with those greenery and mushrooms, they are cool. But they are common in Sunken Ruins. Moss Covered Golem is only one. I did not know it is so popular to get its own model. For that logic they should do models for everyone who is only once in campaign, which would be awesome! Those 4 Golems guarding sunwell should get their models
Ahahahaha! Are there many of those in b.net?
Ah, now I remember what you were referring to. Well, for modding, there are possibilities. Also, it's one of those units with custom skins/models. There will be many throughout the campaigns.
It's what we're expecting, yeah!
Oof, the lightening in this game is so, not there, right now.
Acctually, it has only two and a half weeks to be released. And it's not even the final BETA buildStill, nothing new so far. Game is supposed to be released by end of month (in three weeks) and now is radio silence
Nobody releases anything ever between the 25th December and the 2nd January(Christmas Holidays). And most likely WoW 8.3 releases circa 15th january, and I don't think they'll release Reforged shortly before or a month after WoW 8.3, than comes a new WoW Classic phase so..... April release seems more and more likely to me.
They won't do that. A surprise release doesn't benefit them in any way. Besides the Battle.net app will show a release date at least a week before release.
As vast majority of people do. I do not know what to say. Maybe it will be delayed, but I wont doubt at Blizzard ,,corporatism" and pushing things away just to get rid of them. Seems that they regreet doing this anyway, it took them long time, aruging, different approaches and want this saga to end at once. They are more focused on WOW, Diablo and other games.
But we have release date. it is there all time officially - by the end of year.
It's one reason I don't preorder games. And since I didn't, I'm not affected at all. As @MasterBlaster I'm hoping they'll polish the game accordingly and add more stuff to it before release.
That's a release WINDOW, not a release DATE
They set up exact date (which can be changed in future of course) by 31. december or at 31. december.
Honestly I do not expect anything from Blizzard anymore (they are not capable or writing at least what is happening with game), I was just making point that they should not be silent like it, but even if it happens anyway I wont get surprised. Honestly even if they release game at 31. December in 11:59PM I wont get surprised. They got me already with this silence.
No, they didn't.
Source: DATE | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary
Oh they're capable of telling what is happening, but for one reason or another they're unwilling to. Blizzard is still capable of making good games, have you seen Overwatch 2, graphics perfect and stunning, and I'm going to bet they'll be no bugs at all. We have to understand that Reforged is just a side project and that it's not important that much, and it probably got sacrificed(stuff and budget) so that Overwatch and Diablo can happen. Already said it, but Reforged panel at Blizzcon says it pretty much all. It looked like a dea...on maintainance game panel (*cough*Heroes of the Storm*cough*), not like a panel of the game that's in the height of the developement. The only thing we can do is buy the game or not buy it.
It won't come out right, that's for sure. There are too many things to fix until then.
That's precisely what worries me.
What I'm pretty certain is that another patch will come out this Wednesday, December 11th. And that will be final BETA build. It needs to be on a BETA at least a week.
Oh so on purpose, ignoring almost anyone in world who expects Reforged in any way at all. Remember that fans are separated between old school, and WOW ones and some more, which ended in bashing around Reforged last few months. But everyone is united that Blizzard should say anything so far. And constantly ask them to say anything. Day after day, and still no word from them, ignoring and literally annoying millions of people worldwide. Some want game to be released, some want to be delayed, some want new cutscenes, some want more WOW into it, some want to game stay as is... many many options and opinions, but EVERYONE WANTS word from Blizzard. Anything, just to know where we are standing so far.
Yes, but we are not talking about them, we are talking about Reforged.
Not just that we have to understand, we must understand this, and rate it all according to this.
AT this point I believe that this is everybody's concern. But I just wait to see how will game turn out, then decide to buy it somehow. I do not have job, so no credit card. I must find workaround. My fiance perhaps. But after game is out. For any case. As deepstarasz said, no preorders yet haha. @deepstrasz they wont take your hard blood earned 30dollars so far
Yeah man. I am just curious what strategy will they use to impress us.
Positively, why not
?The money is secondary. It's loyalty and humaneness. I want them to care about their fans not just because we bring in the money but due to the fact that we are spending our time for them trying to make their games better and in what Warcraft III is concerned, the community has made lots of art for and with it.
Because I do not know if it will be positive or negative. That is all this silence is about.Positively, why not
But if you ask Venombite he will tell you that Blizzard is company and does not owe anything to anybody, thus does not need to care about fans, just profit. And other games make profit.
Lol, making games is how they make a living, why should they care about fans, love of the fans doesn't buy anything. Nobody was forcing you to stick with the game, or even now, nobody is forcing you to do anything with the game. You did because you wanted to. In this field they owe you nothing. Frankly you and the person who has heard about the game yesterday, pay the same amount of money, and are equally important to the company.
Technically - yes, but... In regards to modding community - we do hold a special value to Blizzard and we are a bit more important than an average person, because many people really enjoy playing custom maps and that's something that the modding community provides for FREE. That's especially relevant if they are going to add microtransactions to Reforged at some point, because the more people are playing (for instance because of custom maps), the more will spend extra money.
Micro-transactions will be added to the game a second after the release. I'm 100% certain that the four custom skins will be purchasable the momment the game releases on battle.net(card packs and backs in Hearthstone, mounts in WoW, skins in HotS and stuff). They'll be adding more purchasable Daugter of the Sea type skins, maybe some melee maps and scenarios as well for purchase, and maybe some melee maps with completely new tileset(e.g Pandaria) for purchase. It's like with every game on Battle.net, it was expected from the moment they announced the game.
You made good points above, but you still seem not to understand this thing. Maybe because you joined this year (although you may be active for longer time without registration here). Before Hive, there was Wc3sear site. From 2003 I think. Many our users registered before 2006 are from there. They made tons of assets, models, maps etc... Hive existed little later, but they merged in early 2007. I came that year. Anyway, since its existence those sites made tons of assets, and attracted many more people whose were using Blizzard's products. Making maps, models, skins, spells etc etc.. benefited game and company lot as it constantly bring many more people. The hell, even some of members from here went to work for company. They wont be famous and RICH (since you are constantly push money thing) without communities worldwide. Wc3 is homage to WOW you know. So no, average person there and here is not same. People from here attracted many new people and basically did marketing indirectly constantly all over years. Person whose bought game yesterday did not made assets for them, made them famous. The hell, people who made Dota at first place (I cant remember now but I believe some of skins and models are from here too) in fact literally extended Wc3 game's life back then, since it benefit Blizzard greatly.
You did an amazing job focusing on a single word instead of my counter to your previous point
While I do agree on some things you said, I disagree on some.
Yes, I can't compare! Back then and now is much different. Thieves everywhere. Facebook founder got prosecuted and had to testify before European parliament, and his company got heavy punished for espionage. Employees around world started to protest against Google for various stuff. So yes! Good last few ,,modern" years, for high tech giants. Greed is at its best. One simply wishes we all stuck frozen in these times
Not much. Again, who is testing stuff for them now? When they release patches, right now, custom games... Who created them at first place?
Yes that. Wise words again. But one thing, I have seen many posts in blizzard's forums and around. Many people told that they care only about custom games, not campaign or PvP. This is how I started here back in ,,antique" times. Since Wc3 came out, I played it for years occasionally, and got enough of same stuff over and over. And in old Wc3sear I saw custom maps. Then I downloaded, played them for long time. Then I started downloading custom models and implement in my maps. And registered here. So, its not just community itself, but custom maps bring people here. As far I remember there are ,,Community Maps" in latest patches for TFT. I have that folder built in at least. Obviosly, it is made by communities. So yes, you are right overall about this one, but many people are enough with ,,vanilla" stuff. And even today, they want to play custom, even in Reforged.
I do not know honestly much about it, I did not play Dota much ,few times, I do not like it. Thus I assume whatever you wrote to be that because you know what about you are talking.
