Cinematic Contest #4 - The Story of...

[Pharaoh_]

Ok, Linaze, do something here please...! Post a small box in the first post with the submissions, because it's getting idiot. Should we proceed with the cinematic or not is something that needs to be verified! More and more leave this contest, help? :/

 

[CMarket]

Well, as long as me and Warnicro stay you can at least expect a good duel

 

[HappyCockroach]

I wonder if my idea fits the theme. A guy finds a book that has content written by another one, that has already died. So the storyline goes from one person to a book, then to another person. Is it ok?

My question, peoplez...

 

[Linaze]

That'd be okay. As long as you make it as though the dead guy tells the story, if you understand what I mean.

 

[Chaos.]

Contestant list. I doubt that they will all finish but we'll see.

-.LsD
-aaron79
-Avator
-Beast(TrOg)
-Bob27
-Chaos.
-CMarket
-CoBrA b
-Critters
-Diablo-dk
-f0rsAk3n
-Hailfireer
-HappyCockroach
-hawk900
-Hemlock
-Just_Spectating
-jxtranhero
-MaD[Lion]
-ModelTester
-RED BARON
-RestorSquidle
-thedeathunterxx
-VeljkoM

 

[RED BARON]

I never said anything about quiting either

 

[Hemlock]

Well, as long as me and Warnicro stay you can at least expect a good duel

Ohw you bet I am going to try everything in my power to get my submission done (Warnicro = Hemlock btw).

I will most likely post a few screenshots when I am nearing completion (which is still far off), and it's indeed a good idea to make a list of participants.

I hosted a cinematic contest once too, and it's good to let people update their progress and see who's still in or out.

 

[VeljkoM]

I won't... I have some problems I need to take care of. Maybe after I'll try to make last minute entry.

 

[HappyCockroach]

Also, I don't think it is a good idea to consider 25% of public poll. Most people don't check all of them, or even the half, if we have a big quantity. I don't know if anyone's with me, but 10% of public poll is better...

 

[Just_Spectating]

this is all my progress so far on my cinematic:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/skins-552/fatdoctor-blp-140248/

lol

 

[Miss_Foxy]

Or we could pick out and send a private message to 25 members/50 members to vote, and offer them +1 Rep to vote with honesty, plus there's a fixed number...

 

[RED BARON]

Or we could pick out and send a private message to 25 members/50 members to vote, and offer them +1 Rep to vote with honesty, plus there's a fixed number...

Why should we do that? We have a judge

 

[CMarket]

Also, I don't think it is a good idea to consider 25% of public poll. Most people don't check all of them, or even the half, if we have a big quantity. I don't know if anyone's with me, but 10% of public poll is better...

25% is not high enough to influence the full decision. If it was anything lower than that it would be meaningless.

Or we could pick out and send a private message to 25 members/50 members to vote, and offer them +1 Rep to vote with honesty, plus there's a fixed number...

As much as you might think that's a good idea, it's actually really bad.

 

[Linaze]

Miss_Foxy, you never fail to amuse me. The majority of your posts are priceless, not saying they're useful in any way, though. Anyways, your idea pretty much sucks, as randomly picking 25 random members who shall decide which entry is the best... well, I'll just stop here.

 

[.LsD]

I don't know if my cinematic will be great, not after Ashes to Ashes....
But I'll try my best ... It doesn't matter if you win or lose

 

[Pharaoh_]

I actually do agree with HappyCockroach. Members of lower amount of reputation is fatal to have their submissions quite ignored; plus, by psychological means, the most initial stimuli a person accepts, the more he embraces them. So, hypothetically speaking, if they watch the top reputation submissions firstly, those are the ones to be elected.

Then, another problem will come up: If some people at the end of the contest consider their rating as unfair, the judges will be accused once again, so, I think the current voting system is on the edge of the preferable results.

Oh, by the way, I am in too!

 

[.LsD]

I actually do agree with HappyCockroach. Members of lower amount of reputation is fatal to have their submissions quite ignored; plus, by psychological means, the most initial stimuli a person accepts, the more he embraces them. So, hypothetically speaking, if they watch the top reputation submissions firstly, those are the ones to be elected.

Then, another problem will come up: If some people at the end of the contest consider their rating as unfair, the judges will be accused once again, so, I think the current voting system is on the edge of the preferable results.

Oh, by the way, I am in too!

This is sad ...!! Who knows .... rep doesn't matter in contest

 

[RED BARON]

This is sad ...!! Who knows .... rep doesn't matter in contest

Indeed. Else all contests would have the same winner, if there is a connection its most likely because there is a reason for the higher amount of rep, like general Frank, Elenai or similar.

A good prof of this claim is that pyritie actually haven't won first place in every contest he has been in, even though he has a high reputation.

Equal rep doesn't mean win.

 

[.LsD]

Even if I don't win .. i still can post it on Hive maps, right?

EDIT : And update it and take ppl's suggestions

 

[CMarket]

Of course... It's your map, regardless of where you submit it.

 

[.LsD]

Sweet .... Better watch you lone panther .. i heard it is awesome

 

[Mechmap]

Sweet .... Better watch you lone panther .. i heard it is awesome

It will be even better, or so I hope.

 

[Restor]

So, I started on my cin, just making skins..

10day later I go for one week out, so I hope I will finish this in these 10 days.


btw:that pic is not from cin, it is just how the skins should look like

 

[Hemlock]

Just a minor update on my progress.

About 50% of the terrain is about done, even tho the more detailed terrain is still to be made, screenshots will be presented from ingame footage when the cinematic is nearly done.

Additionally I have completed all voice acting for my map, you can hear the sample of the narrator that tells the story in the attachment below here.

 

[CMarket]

Hemlock, aren't you giving too many spoilers? You already gave story and voice spoilers and I presume you'll display the terrain as well. I, and many people, prefer to watch a movie(or in this case a warcraft 3 cinematic) with as little starting knowledge of it as possible.

Anyway, here's a terrain screen shot of my competition entry, which I already mentioned was named "The Clown of As'Latur"

Feedback is welcome and appreciated.

 

[Hemlock]

Hemlock, aren't you giving too many spoilers? You already gave story and voice spoilers and I presume you'll display the terrain as well. I, and many people, prefer to watch a movie(or in this case a warcraft 3 cinematic) with as little starting knowledge of it as possible.

Anyway, here's a terrain screen shot of my competition entry, which I already mentioned was named "The Clown of As'Latur"

Feedback is welcome and appreciated.

These are about all the spoilers that you might see just before the release, I stated people will be able to see screenshots, but nearly before it's completed, in my opinion it's a waste to show you terrain that is not definitely going to be used in the cinematic, or under that angle.

As for your screenshots, quite fancy I'd say, there are a couple of things you might want to work on.
Natural Erosion: The surrounding terrain the house is standing on is just raised equally and synchronized, try to make some variation. (keep in mind a house standing on grass or plain dirt also effects it's surrounding terrain .
Natural Tiles: Try to avoid using those felwood tiles in this picture, I don't think they blend in all that well, and might distract the viewers cause they don't flow along the tile setting theme that you are using here.

 

[CMarket]

(keep in mind a house standing on grass or plain dirt also effects it's surrounding terrain .

Thanks for the advice, but I don't understand this part. What exactly do you mean?

 

[Hemlock]

Nothing in particular, however if you place a house on plain nature ground, it can influence the ground surrounding it, it was just a additional note to indicate it looks a bit unnatural right now.

 

[Pharaoh_]

CMarket, I'd use "Fogged Sky" instead, I'd take away that fake rock tile and used this instead:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/skins-552/lords_rock-61055/?prev=d=list&r=20&t=31

 

[HailFireer]

Hm. My terrain will need updating. I just used normal stuff from WE. I at least need some imported trees...

 

[VeljkoM]

Is there any chance (like usually) for extended dead line? Maybe 4th September is not enough?

Also nice to see that cinematic can be 15 min now.

 

[CMarket]

Is there any chance (like usually) for extended dead line?

I'd advise against it unless absolutely necessary. As you said, extending usually is the case, which shouldn't be. If you want people to finish their entry by the deadline you need to show that it won't bend easily. Besides, what's the point of having a deadline if we're always going to push it.

 

[VeljkoM]

Well usually it shows that deadline is to soon but maybe it won't be needed this time.

 

[HailFireer]

Its like a month long. And on summer. No school and other stuff (mostly), so you have plenty of time do make cinematic and do any other stuff you wish.

 

[Linaze]

You have plenty of time left.
If an extension is needed, one will come, but for now, I do not see the point.

 

[Beast(TrOg)]

Like other people, I may not have time for this...it just conflicts with the time I need to spend at school soon and other stuff. But I'm not dropping out; my cinematic just won't be as good or long as I probably wanted it.
Oh and I don't see an extension as necessary either.

 

[IcyMind]

Is it too late to enter the contest?
If not, i'm in.
I'm not going to be busy these days.

 

[HailFireer]

You enter the contest when you submit WIP. Well that is technically. But still, you can say your entering even the last day of time given

 

[Mechmap]

Just a minor update on my progress.

About 50% of the terrain is about done, even tho the more detailed terrain is still to be made, screenshots will be presented from ingame footage when the cinematic is nearly done.

Additionally I have completed all voice acting for my map, you can hear the sample of the narrator that tells the story in the attachment below here.

I think the narrator struggles to have such a dark voice, it sounds like he can't breath that well. Personally i think it's a bad thing but voiceacting is always a plus.

 

[IcyMind]

You enter the contest when you submit WIP.

I guess it's pretty noobish asking this, but what is WIP?

edit: never mind

 

[Hemlock]

I think the narrator struggles to have such a dark voice, it sounds like he can't breath that well. Personally i think it's a bad thing but voiceacting is always a plus.

Perhaps we have a different view on how to breath, but there is nothing wrong with the way he is breathing, and this sound effect filter is an alike layer that was used in the transformers movie, so I find it awkward you mention the fact that he's having a struggle with appearing to have a dark voice, whereas he doesn't remotely need to have one.

The fact that I am using narration is not to fancy up my movie, but to distract the viewers eyes from the countless leaps of texts they have to read, for you will miss half of the movie, and that's what voice acting is all for.

Imagine watching Iceage 3 without voice acting and having to read all the dialogues they are narrating, takes away an awful lot of character building, and that's why I am using it in this story.

 

[Mechmap]

Perhaps we have a different view on how to breath, but there is nothing wrong with the way he is breathing, and this sound effect filter is an alike layer that was used in the transformers movie, so I find it awkward you mention the fact that he's having a struggle with appearing to have a dark voice, whereas he doesn't remotely need to have one.

The fact that I am using narration is not to fancy up my movie, but to distract the viewers eyes from the countless leaps of texts they have to read, for you will miss half of the movie, and that's what voice acting is all for.

Imagine watching Iceage 3 without voice acting and having to read all the dialogues they are narrating, takes away an awful lot of character building, and that's why I am using it in this story.

I don't think that the voice-acting itself is bad, just that it sound a little wierd.

 

[Pharaoh_]

I guess it's pretty noobish asking this, but what is WIP?

Work In Progress. It is your actual submission. Before your final submission (the map itself), you can post some screenshots as a proof of your work's progress or as a show-off of your work (Which might work like a spoiler as well ).

 

[IcyMind]

ok, thanks. I better get started then.

 

[hi.gin.tonic]

illidan's Birthday version 1

ok so this is what i got.
http://epicwar.com/maps/107265/
i did it for the lulz

 

[Pharaoh_]

ok so this is what i got.
http://epicwar.com/maps/107265/
i did it for the lulz

LoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooL!
Nice, hahahaha, I way laughed in the end: Wanna dance? CM: Ok and then she started patrolling. Hahahahahaha
Pal, sorry though, it doesn't follow the contest itself: You were supposed to make somebody narrate a story, this is just a Hive's going-on thing
By the way, the Floating Texts vanish too fast to read.

 

[VeljkoM]

CM? I hope that is who I think it is.

 

[Hemlock]

ok so this is what i got.
http://epicwar.com/maps/107265/
i did it for the lulz

Thanks for taking 4 minutes of my life with this lulz .

 

[hi.gin.tonic]

Thanks for taking 4 minutes of my life with this lulz .

Your welcome.

 

[HailFireer]

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=w03njm

Ok, hers my cinematic. Well, its not finished yet.
Let me know what you think so far.
Still few things to fix. Like music, ambiance, terrain fixing, you know, a lot of things.

And when its done, you will have to exit with alt+f4. I forgot to make game kick you out ^.^
Sorry.