Warcraft III Reforged - Community Feedback

[Whisper]

Is Wc3R development dead?

 

[YourArthas]

Is Wc3R development dead?

I had quite high hopes to see an update today but looks like it is still 'dead'

 

[Wrda]

Guess it's too much work working on the classic wc3 fixing stuff and at same time developing Wc3R.

 

[Deleted member 238589]

Have we heard any news at all since wc3r was announced?

 

[Sieben]

No, nothing since the Blizzcon.
Blizzard must be still working on Warcraft III though, since the game received its latest update a month ago. I suppose they work on both classic and Reforged games at the same time.

 

[pyf]

Are we *supposed* to hear any news at all, before any official beta testing of WC3:R?

 

[Sieben]

I hope so. People are getting really impatient on the official forum.

 

[pyf]

Is it Operation CWAL all over again?

 

[deepstrasz]

Is it Operation CWAL all over again?

warpten?

 

[SnowYell]

Hi

So I have just downloaded through the link Blizzard provided here:
1.30.2 Patch Notes

And now I can't seem to find World Editor anywhere. Where is it located?

 

[deepstrasz]

And now I can't seem to find World Editor anywhere. Where is it located?

1.30.4 Patch Notes is the latest.
Also, the World Editor should be in the folder where the game was installed, where the game .exe also is.

 

[Yogi-Sothoth]

More faceless ones models. I would love to see a C'thaxxi model in WCIII reforged.
More outland tilesets, plus I want these unitized in the campaign
Water settings: Ocean (water with waves), Lake (water that flows), stale (water that doesn't move)
Dummy RPG units with the ability to pick up weapons, and armor.

 

[Kacpa2]

I am still strongly against UI change, it's needlesly made to look like league of legends and other moba games, while you forget that people use more spells than 4 on characters in custom maps, and 12 button grid is a must, it's used by hundreds of maps in unique ways with submenues and other stuff. Not to mention that you are throwing away tousands of icon assets that community has made. UI should be like original and customizeable on top of it not to be replaced by this moba style cookie-cutter open ui. Also Round buttons/icons are also bad, they show less of the icon, are incompatibile with original assets and ones we created over the years and should be refashioned to square button layout, there is no reason for them to be round at all.
What should be done instead on top of original style ui is to allow people to rebind abilities, choose from several presets, be it original binds in english or any other language(they do differ), bind stuff for each spell or command grid slot by yourself, or have modern bind preset that overwrites hotkeys from the map, setting bottom row to QWER layout, mid row to 1234 and top row to stay how it was in english (M-Move, S-Stop, H-Hold, A-attack).
Option to add new menues for equipment or more spells or custom item systems natively with option to hide them like team resources tab but from bottom right corner or to use space of 16:9 ui to the right of the original grid(4:3 players would get roll up instead).
This way you preserve the assets created by us, and make it compatibile with older maps, and allow new icons to be used in classic wc3 aswell. Having it as it was in Culling demo is big NO. Also dont even mention that people see more, because it's both unreliable and unreliable "advantage" with original ui it's fair and 99.9% identical for everyone since all racial UI's dont stick out too much in any case. There is no need ot change that, and players dont need to see more of the screen. What could be usefull is to bring back that camera height from 1.28 that was patched out if you really want to improve visibility a bit

 

[deepstrasz]

@Kacpa2 chill man, it's only for the campaign.

 

[loktar]

And the round icons are simply a matter of webdesign, it has nothing to do with the game itself.

While I don't really care what the UI looks like (apart from visual style), they should definitely take care to maintain compatibility with custom maps that make use of 5+ buttons. However, compatibility with existing custom maps is a stated goal of the Blizzard Classic team, and they are aware of its importance.

Personally I have faith in the development team (not so much in the 3rd-party art department) to respect the modding community and its existing creations. It is after all the sole reason this game is still so popular more than 15 years after its release, and they are aware of that.
Many of the developers are in fact part of this community themselves, and the way they communicate with the community and listen to suggestions and feedback is frankly unparallelled as far as I know.

 

[Wrda]

@Kacpa2 chill man, it's only for the campaign.

Even so, it still makes no sense to change it honestly.

 

[loktar]

I dunno, there's definitely room for improvement. For example, it makes more sense to put command buttons at the bottom and abilities at the top, and now they can take advantage of full widescreen space. It would be weird if they didn't redesign the UI.

 

[deepstrasz]

Even so, it still makes no sense to change it honestly.

I dunno, there's definitely room for improvement. For example, it makes more sense to put command buttons at the bottom and abilities at the top, and now they can take advantage of full widescreen space. It would be weird if they didn't redesign the UI.

And it's probably for ladder too.

 

[Jumbo]

One thing that surprises me is how they still haven't revealed Night Elves cosmetics. I mean - come on - it's one of the 4 playable races not some side detail.

 

[deepstrasz]

One thing that surprises me is how they still haven't revealed Night Elves cosmetics. I mean - come on - it's one of the 4 playable races not some side detail.

Maybe to avoid us commenting like we did with the rest shoulder pads and all.

 

[Jumbo]

Yeah, but its been so long now.

 

[Archian]

There is still time
Its a big project for the Classic Games team. Let’s be patient and help them by testing and provide feedback: Warcraft III - Patch 1.31 PTR

All good things comes to those who wait

 

[Crett]

Any chance they'll remove the movement/attack/turn speed limits? they limit the scope of many maps, in my opinion

 

[Garfielf]

An easier way to change models would be nice, as opposed to having to use the Tinker's Ultimate for everything

 

[hexhound]

the #1 thing i would want is a native way to maintain ladders and ban lists for custom maps.

The competitive custom map community took a very big hit when bots were removed. i understand the need to do that, but it becomes exponentially more difficult to maintain a community and to sanction bad actors without the ability to keep track of them, or the carrot of trying to get a good record keeping people honest and fighting until they can't win anymore, instead of leaving as soon as a round doesn't match their idea of a good/perfect start. i think the fear of a loss going on your permanent, account-tied record is necessary to keep competitive-style maps fun in the long run.

 

[seasand3]

there are 2 things i would like for warcraft 3:

a function (JASS) to get the mouse position on the screen (not in the map/world).
something like:
real1 = I2R( GetMouseScreenX(Player_1) / GetScreenWidth(Player_1) )
real2 = I2R( GetMouseScreenY(Player_1) / GetScreenHeight(Player_1) )

and a defend animation for all Models with a shield (those arent that many):
humans: Lord Garithos
undead: skeleton warrior
orc: chaos warlord (mathog)
neutral: revenant

 

[Nudl9]

We need a map encryption for Warcraft Reforged or people will steal credit for all our hard work.
Map protection software go out of date really quickly and the developers have stopped updating them.
It would be great if we had map encryption in the Reforged World Editor so we wouldn't have to make go through this process every every single time.
Because if the classic team doesn't make one, the community will anyway but it will take time.
Each patch seems to break the map protectors, so it would be nice to have one official one that didn't break.
Honestly i just don't see how Reforged custom games will endure if don't have a way to encrypt maps.

 

[deepstrasz]

Honestly i just don't see how Reforged custom games will endure if don't have a way to encrypt maps.

Unless they make custom games like the StarCraft II Arcade where you can only find a map based on the original author who uploaded it. Well, I guess there are some exceptions but I also guess reporting there is a thing.

 

[seasand3]

We need a map encryption for Warcraft Reforged or people will steal credit for all our hard work.

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yeah thatd be really a good thing!

 

[SharSash]

For some reason I have a feeling that if blizzard makes offcial map protection people will find a way around it in no time, I don't know why

 

[Nudl9]

Well you could always add an encryption key or something like it.
It's all about making the process a real hassle.

 

[Rui]

The dilemma is that you can't encrypt any part of a map without making the game unable to read it.

That's why in principle there's no bulletproof protection. If extra data is added to signal protection (be it something as simple as a single bit, or as complex as a digital signature), people can just change it, or truncate it, or extract relevant data. Bipartitioning the formats in "w3x playable" and "w3x editable" could also be bypassed by engineering a third-party converter.

The best bet is indeed the hassle. It doesn't even have to be a real hassle—I find current protection methods suitable because they bar 99% of would-be looters. Only it won't stop those Chinese money-mongers from profiting.

 

[Adunai]

no superman capes in every unit

Like one ones the Archer, Dark Ranger, Death Knight, Druid of the Talon, Jaina and Malfurion have?

The only unit to wear a cape properly is the Blood Mage/Kael.

 

[stein123]

Like one ones the Archer, Dark Ranger, Death Knight, Druid of the Talon, Jaina and Malfurion have?

Casters and hunters wearing hoods/capes/coats makes sense, and the DK is a hero mockin the regal look of a paladin

 

[Nudl9]

Home Scroll Portal cooldown doesn't work.
Cleaving Attack draws aggro range is bugged and draws aggro from much further than specified.

 

[Adunai]

Home Scroll Portal cooldown

What is it? The Town Portal Scroll? And does it even have a cooldown?

 

[Nudl9]

Town Portal.
It's always 0 even if you change it.

 

[Suedomsael]

Like one ones the Archer, Dark Ranger, Death Knight, Druid of the Talon, Jaina and Malfurion have?

The only unit to wear a cape properly is the Blood Mage/Kael.

When I speak of cape, im actually talking about the back armor clothing in wow which is ridiculous to be worn by most model heroes and units

Archers, Dark Rangers, Shandris, Riflemen... HOODS/COATS not capes, which makes sense for the appearance of a long range hunter..

Jaina, Furion, Ordinary Archmages, Kael/ Blood Mages, Far Seer (except Thrall), priests, sorceresses, shamans, necromancers, etc... ROBES not capes, which make sense for magical spellcasters...

Paladins, Death Knights... BACK CLOTH TABARDS not capes, which is a realistic symbol for armor-plated knight warrior carrying the banner of his faction/country...


When I speak of capes not fitting for every unit, Im actually talking about those units that does not wear such things lorewise, and appearance-wise would look stupid and does make no sense at all... such as for Demon Hunters, Mountain Kings, Blademasters, Dreadlords...

They should not turn the armor and weapon model appearance close to WoW... it is stupid for a concept of topless demon hunters or blademasters to wear superman capes pretty much like how every armor gear appearance in WoW works...

 

[knight26]

Are suggestions still a thing?

I was playing today and noticed that I needed to kill my workers to reduce upkeep.
So my suggestion is rather quality of life improvement, and let's give those poor hard workers some dignity!

Suggestion:
Add a 'retire' function for workers, purely aesthetic, where they are removed from the game.

 

[deepstrasz]

I was playing today and noticed that I needed to kill my workers to reduce upkeep.
So my suggestion is rather quality of life improvement, and let's give those poor hard workers some dignity!

Suggestion:
Add a 'retire' function for workers, purely aesthetic, where they are removed from the game.

Sure, but that's strategy. It takes time to kill a unit so you can relieve upkeep.

 

[knight26]

Sure, but that's strategy. It takes time to kill a unit so you can relieve upkeep.

Ah, so it would mess up the core of classic Warcraft 3. Well, maybe add game modes? Classic Wc3, and Refined one.

 

[deepstrasz]

Ah, so it would mess up the core of classic Warcraft 3

Yeah, you could abuse it to train a stronger unit instead say, trade 5 lumber workers for a Tauren or Chimaera.

 

[knight26]

Ah, so it would mess up the core of classic Warcraft 3. Well, maybe add game modes? Classic Wc3, and Refined one.

Yeah, you could abuse it to train a stronger unit instead say, trade 5 lumber workers for a Tauren or Chimaera.

Theoretically, you can do that now, too. The difference being it takes time to kill them off, instead of retire them. Right?
So perhaps a time wise penalty to be added? 5-10 seconds before the peasants are 'retired'.

Edit: I understand that this too, changes the strategy of War3 and for the most part people are trying to keep it oldschool.

 

[deepstrasz]

So perhaps a time wise penalty to be added? 5-10 seconds before the peasants are 'retired'.

And they should be immobilized and possibly made invulnerable so that they won't give you resources in the last seconds, be easy targets to enemies or disappear before enemies can kill them.

 

[Nudl9]

I've got the updated editor working now, but it's so fucking slow now what is this?

 

[deepstrasz]

I've got the updated editor working now, but it's so fucking slow now what is this?

For Reforged? You're on a Reforged thread.

 

[Xen Skooma]

ALL models should have swimming animation. Even though it wouldn't be used. but could add new ways for custom maps

 

[deepstrasz]

ALL models should have swimming animation.

Flying and levitating too.

 

[YourArthas]

Flying and levitating too.

And morph

 

[deepstrasz]

And morph

And T pose.

I mean, crow/raven morph too (flying up/down).