Garithos' campaign: Phoenix

[Super Babe]

You are not able to pick up mana stones and no units exept for the captain has voicing. The tooltibs for the sorcerer and his spells are also wrong.

 

[michmich]

You are not able to pick up mana stones and no units exept for the captain has voicing. The tooltibs for the sorcerer and his spells are also wrong.

Ok, I'll try to change that, thx

 

[Deleted member 247165]

Please add the following chapters onto the same bundle not separated. The recapture of Dalaran

 

[michmich]

Please add the following chapters onto the same bundle not separated. The recapture of Dalaran

Ok, sorry, didn't know you can do that, thanks.

 

[ƬƖƦЄƊ]

All Garithos campaigns are welcome : D

 

[Urim03]

Hello,

Is it really supposed to be played in current version, or is it like alpha version of the map ? I couldn't even play first map (actually I could if I go as teal (so not garithos), but there is no win condition and game isn't supposed to be played with the base team I think), the game is simply over before it starts. On 2nd map there is simply way too many bugs to list all of them, but I'll say the most annoying :

• If you cut the cinematic, the bridge doesn't exist
• If you go near bridge builder, the cinematic comes again and again
• if you go on the other side of the bridge, the cinematic for bandit starts again and again and launches the optional quest (but doesn't reset count which is good).
• Bandit boss is bugged, but I think you know that, if I face him, I'm stuck.
• Map not finished ? or is there some triggers not working ?

Also is it normal that there is the captain lvl 17 or something outside of the door doing nothing ? You can kill him (slowly...) and an item drops from him, it felt weird but on purpose.
And probably make units fighting each other (from humans and undead) that blocks the way heal to full every time they lose 20% hp, so waiting isn't an option to go this way.

If I guessed right (alpha version, not finished and you're not used in making maps) here are some advice I could give :
You should probably try to finish one map entirely (even if it has bugs remaining), then try the map, try to fix the bugs you can see and list those you can't. While trying to find bugs, try to think a bit outside the box, every player doesn't play the game exactly the way you intend.
Finishing a map completely before launching it is probably more efficient and faster.
When you listed bugs you can't fix, share them in the description, so people don't get stuck in them and maybe give you a solution ?

About Bandit boss fight, I'm really not good with wc3 editor, but maybe there is a trigger that is executed when there is no more allies around ? Or maybe when a certain number of units dies ? If you can't figure out maybe just put a timer before he gets targetable again, people will either way be forced to kill all bandits coming as fast as possible if they don't want to be overwhelmed. Would be easier if you told us exactly what you struggle to do.

I won't give a note to the map yet. Good luck with it, hope it gets very good with time.

 

[michmich]

Hi, first of all, thank you for your review, it helped me a lot.

Is it really supposed to be played in current version, or is it like alpha version of the map ?

The first map should be possible to finish, but the second one isn't. I'm currently working on it's ending.

• If you cut the cinematic, the bridge doesn't exist
• If you go near bridge builder, the cinematic comes again and again
• if you go on the other side of the bridge, the cinematic for bandit starts again and again and launches the optional quest (but doesn't reset count which is good).

Ok, I'll check that, but I'm surprised that I left a cinematic repeatable, maybe I posted another version of the map.

Also is it normal that there is the captain lvl 17 or something outside of the door doing nothing ? You can kill him (slowly...) and an item drops from him, it felt weird but on purpose.

Well, I've put him there so he can be used again later and didn't intended to let him be killed. It wasn't on purpose but maybe there will be some things like that. I'll fix him, thanks

And probably make units fighting each other (from humans and undead) that blocks the way heal to full every time they lose 20% hp, so waiting isn't an option to go this way.

I thought that giving them 10000 life and 30 armor will be enough but I can do that too.

You should probably try to finish one map entirely (even if it has bugs remaining), then try the map, try to fix the bugs you can see and list those you can't. While trying to find bugs, try to think a bit outside the box, every player doesn't play the game exactly the way you intend.
Finishing a map completely before launching it is probably more efficient and faster.

Yeah, I made a mistake by posting this map in alpha version, should have waited. For the next ones I'll post them when they'll be finished. Also, I'm trying to do a map that has one way of finishing it so there won't be bugs but I'll try yo think more outside of the box from now on.

About Bandit boss fight, I'm really not good with wc3 editor, but maybe there is a trigger that is executed when there is no more allies around ? Or maybe when a certain number of units dies ? If you can't figure out maybe just put a timer before he gets targetable again, people will either way be forced to kill all bandits coming as fast as possible if they don't want to be overwhelmed. Would be easier if you told us exactly what you struggle to do.

About that one, I've fixed it yesterday, there was a bug that was putting every unit from the map into the unit group that had to be destroyed, just one little trigger hidden among others. Now it's working but I'll go with your advice and finish the map first before posting everything.

I won't give a note to the map yet. Good luck with it, hope it gets very good with time.

Thanks a lot.

 

[Urim03]

The first map should be possible to finish, but the second one isn't. I'm currently working on it's ending.

The first map should be playable ? It's not, not for me at least. When I launch the map, I get the sound victory when the map ends the loading, so theoretically even before I start the game. Then the map shows Garithos team but I can't select anything, nothing happens beside the priest healing slowly other units (that seem to be damaged ? I can't even see their HP beside Garithos' one, and only because he is a hero that appears top left.). So I'm just forced to give up and do something else.
That's typically the kind of bug I had few times playing a custom campaign/map in the wrong version of wc3, that's why I asked if it's actually supposed to be played on the current version of wc3 reforged (which is 1.32.10), or on another version.

If you could try fix it or tell me how to play it, I'm a bit curious and would like to play it. I tried many manipulations, I could either play as the undead base, or the human base, but never as Garithos

 

[michmich]

The first map should be playable ? It's not, not for me at least. When I launch the map, I get the sound victory when the map ends the loading, so theoretically even before I start the game. Then the map shows Garithos team but I can't select anything, nothing happens beside the priest healing slowly other units (that seem to be damaged ? I can't even see their HP beside Garithos' one, and only because he is a hero that appears top left.). So I'm just forced to give up and do something else.
That's typically the kind of bug I had few times playing a custom campaign/map in the wrong version of wc3, that's why I asked if it's actually supposed to be played on the current version of wc3 reforged (which is 1.32.10), or on another version.

If you could try fix it or tell me how to play it, I'm a bit curious and would like to play it. I tried many manipulations, I could either play as the undead base, or the human base, but never as Garithos

Well, that's weird. When I was testing the map, nothing was wrong exept the lack of originality. I did the map for the classic version of Warcraft but I don't see why it shouldn't work on reforged as well, maybe because of the custom models. Also, I don't know why you can play as human or undead, I'm gonna check it right away.
Thanks for the review.

 

[deepstrasz]

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[deepstrasz]

Spoiler: comments

1. The Priest doesn't have autocast on Heal.
2. There's a lot of green icons on game pause. Learn about DISBTNS: Complete Icon Tutorial - All About Icons
3. Terrain is pretty much flat and repetitive, also linear.
4. Any difference between the Fire and Frost bolts?
5. The Catapult's selection circle is too small.
6. Villagers are useless, they get in the way.
7. Workers look like Militia. There's no visual difference between them. One of them remained teal and allied. Both have the same hotkey and the Firebolt description doesn't say how much damage it does or how much time the stun lasts.
8. Going Around quest did not complete; wasn't marked as completed.
9. There are more than 3 levels per ability but the description only shows 3 levels. Holy Light has the same description with 2xStrength.
10. Garithos is a dark knight but he has some paladin spells.
11. In chapter two he loses the Attribute Bonus.
12. Apparently, Maximov works somewhere where there's nothing but a patch of grass. This map is an edit of the original from the Frozen Throne.
13. "Racist but good" What cognitive dissonance.
14. Magical worker who can build a bridge alone and hero who can chop the required wood for it in a few hours.
15. Sleeping elementals. Guess they can kill some time before dissipating?
16. Swindling Milt's name should be the hero name not the unit name.
17. Might of the Syndicate=the claw item from the Dreadlord. Literally give the same thing.
18. Past level 3 all ability levels have the level 3 description.
19. Why night elves?
20. Would have been nice for another custom optional quest then the same as Kael's. But didn't Kael take the caches?
21. You don't have to activate the runes to get the cache. Simply, use the siege treant.
22. The Guardian Golem is not undead?
23. Could make quest items runes/variables to avoid cluttering the inventory with unusable stuff.
24. Druidic Staff's description doesn't say what it gives. I dropped and lift it several times to see what the hero gets and loses on his stats panel. Actually, the description shows when the item is down and you select it. But you can't cast Cyclone, sadly.
25. Heal the Forest and Omega's minimap signals don't disappear after you finish these quests.
26. Apparently Garithos learned how to magically raise a bridge after gathering wood and seeing the worker do it.
27. Lady Deathwhisper doesn't have hero glow. You can simply add it: How to add Hero Glow without Modeling Also, her hero name is switched with her hero name.
28. Destroyed the blue base and killed every blue undead; nothing happened.

Seems promising from chapter 2 albeit the terrain isn't original. I'd remake chapter 1 from scratch really as it's simple and not immersive at all compared to the following map.
The techtree is also 99% human and abilities are regular ones but I appreciate the enhancement/modification through triggers in chapter 2 of the Holy Light although I'm not quite sure it works how it says it does.
I'm going to wait for more chapters to see where this is going before approving. I wanted to leave it in Pending but since the second chapter is not finished,

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A Guideline to Terraining and the Hive's Terraining Section
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WE Map Editor for Newbies!
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How to create Melee Maps
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[deepstrasz]

Hasn't been updated but I think it can get approved though.