Bows and Arrows

[ThinhHo]

If you haven't played Bows and Arrows, reading too throughoutly through the changelogs is not recommended. The story is important in this and I don't want you to be spoiled by the silly changelogs.

Version 1.14 Update for Bows and Arrows (Nov 8th 2023)
General Changes/Fixes

• Revamped the layout of Chapter 4's village, enhancing its authenticity as a vibrant village setting
• Addressed a critical issue in Chapter 4 that was preventing dialogues from displaying during cinematics at specific junctures
• Refreshed Annie's new icon for a more appealing visual representation
• Restructured the Necrotic Vigor Ward to exclusively heal allied units, ceasing any healing of enemies
• Eliminated the Checkpoint System
• Improved Void Crystal description
• Made all ability tablets into units from buildings and hide them on minimap

Specific Map Changes/Fixes

• Map3 Fixed Quest Monster not activating if QShadow is discovered
• Map3 Fixed Quest Blink not activating if QTrust is discovered
• Map3 Replaced Manual of Health rewards from QMonster with Periapt of Vitality and Pendant of Mana
• Map3 Unit Increased Iron Golem’s damage to 68 (from 20) and cooldown to 3.7s (from 1.35)
• Map3 Unit Reduced Iron Golem’s armor to 17 (from 65)

• Map4 Redesigned village layout, making it feel more like a village
• Map4 Fixed a serious bug that stops all dialogues from showing up in cinematics at certain points (due to portrait in cinematics)
• Map4 New Quest Nerubian Deathcaller

• Map7 Improved boss arena and camera limits to prevent cheesing on the final boss
• Map7 Kill all skeletons when Sinister Necromancer dies
• Map7 Unit High Guardian still has a follow-up Slam at his location even if his Slam target dies
• Map7 Unit Increased High Guardian’s armor to 8 (from 6)

 

[The Nightmare Book]

Looking forward to play and post my humble review.

 

[badre-_-3aleek]

its not working for me i cant see the unite and the items is in green like thy broken its like

The Heart of Storms: Dusk of Draenor​

yeas i trayed it in reforged and classic .

any idea pleas help thx

 

[ThinhHo]

Hold on guys. The model files of map 1 just got corrupted. I'm fixing that.
Also working on a hotfix for map4 that prevents you from proceeding with the main quest.
@The Nightmare Book Don't play it yet. Let me roll out the hotfix today first.

 

[ThinhHo]

Campaign updated to version 1.01. Files in Map 1 are no longer corrupted. I uploaded, downloaded and tested it out as well. Also fixed a major problem in Map 4 that prevents you from proceeding with the main quest correctly.

[Planned to implement this in the campaign thread but did not use it at the end. I used the other design that you see instead.]

 

[duongsodep]

Wow, hey, you already push your project out?! Thought you gonna cook some more, well I will eat anything you feed me. Gotta say, seeing this remind me of your preview, already feeling started to flow again. Ahh, the excitement when i first saw it. Great work my friend.

 

[abbsomes]

ThinHo.....??

I was just trying to skip the map(since i am fan of RTS)
but on seeing "ThinHo", I think I have to play this!

By the way, are you not going to work on the previous work?(DOL)
I can't still forget that touching "movie."

 

[duongsodep]

ThinHo.....??

I was just trying to skip the map(since i am fan of RTS)
but on seeing "ThinHo", I think I have to play this!

By the way, are you not going to work on the previous work?(DOL)
I can't still forget that touching "movie."

Are you a Vietnamese? And technically, Its ThinhHo not ThinHo.

As for DOTL, Im currently helping ThinhHo create a Manual of DOTL for new and old players with the concept of bring information such as hints, guides etc or in case of stuck or encounte bugs. So far, progress for Act III is still none. Would recommend you play and finished Act II (there are new quests, new maps...), give comment for further evaluation and myself to finished my Manual.

 

[The_Messenger]

I am touched beyond words. But I'm not "dead", I was just ghosting HIVE.

 

[duongsodep]

I am touched beyond words. But I'm not "dead", I was just ghosting HIVE.

Nice to meet you ^^

 

[The_Messenger]

Nice to meet you ^^

TinhHo made it sound like I was gone for good. I just... dropped out, when he started revisiting Defenders of the Light for more updates. I was on and off active on HIVE, but not gone for good.

 

[duongsodep]

TinhHo made it sound like I was gone for good. I just... dropped out, when he started revisiting Defenders of the Light for more updates. I was on and off active on HIVE, but not gone for good.

People make mistake my friend. No worried, as a matter of fact, ThinhHo and I come to an agreement that you write some good story for his campaign. There are more to life, sometime, you just not on Hive at a regular basis like you used to. I know that because I too just recently return to Hive. No hard-feelings my friend. Good to have you back

 

[ThinhHo]

Hello everyone, it's great to have you all here again. I want to acknowledge that the issue with @The_Messenger was entirely my mistake. I've reached out to him personally, and we'll be working together to further enhance the dialogues from this point forward.

Just so you guys know, Bows and Arrows was just updated to version 1.05 with these major changes/fixes:

• Improved the terrain of Chapter 1
• Applied relevant quest pings for all maps
• Improved ability descriptions in all maps
• Fixed some bugs here and there
• Tweaked some items and abilities icon, descriptions and functions

I was just trying to skip the map(since i am fan of RTS)
but on seeing "ThinHo", I think I have to play this!

By the way, are you not going to work on the previous work?(DOL)
I can't still forget that touching "movie."

First of all, @abbsomes , I want to express my gratitude for the support you've shown for Defenders of the Light. As of now, I've had to step away from working on DOTL, even though there's still so much story left to tell within that world. Unfortunately, recent updates from Blizzard have posed significant challenges for me in continuing this project. The issues are complex, and I'm unsure where to even begin in terms of addressing them and bringing DOTL up to date.

It's worth mentioning that the new update has also caused problems for several other campaigns. The silver lining, however, is that Bows and Arrows is not as intricately interconnected as Defenders of the Light, which means that any bugs can be more easily identified and resolved. Additionally, Bows and Arrows was originally created with Reforged from the start, while DOTL was initially developed using version 1.26 of the game.

I hope you haven't already begun playing, @abbsomes, as update 1.05 has significantly enhanced the terrain of Chapter 1. Initially, Chapter 1 had the least polished terrain because it was my first attempt at map creation in Reforged, and I was still gaining experience with the new graphics. However, this update has now brought it in line with the quality of the other maps.

Nonetheless, even if you started. You don't have to replay from the beginning map like Defenders of the Light. Just select the next chapter and play from there.

As for DOTL, Im currently helping ThinhHo create a Manual of DOTL for new and old players with the concept of bring information such as hints, guides etc or in case of stuck or encounte bugs. So far, progress for Act III is still none. Would recommend you play and finished Act II (there are new quests, new maps...), give comment for further evaluation and myself to finished my Manual.

Yes, I genuinely appreciate it. As per @duongsodep's plan, the guide will be designed to foster player exploration rather than leading them through every step from beginning to end. I believe this approach is exactly what people need. The frequent inquiries on the thread about gate passwords on Lonely Island underscore the demand for such a guide.

For those who haven't yet embarked on or finished "Bows and Arrows," I trust this will be a profoundly moving experience. In my view, it stands as one of the most exquisite narratives ever crafted within the HIVE community.

 

[duongsodep]

can your post your version on patch 1.31.?

Gonna ask why tho. Why 1.31? I'm quite sure that ThinhHo stated that BaA build on the newest Reforged. (not that easy to downgrade, not even worth it since there is hope for Reforged)

Edit: Yea, Bows and Arrows is built with Reforged Engine and Mechanics so its gonna be a world of work to make a version of 1.31. Also, Campaign is in development and update state. Mostly changing and adding stuff.

 

[deepstrasz]

Gonna ask why tho. Why 1.31? I'm quite sure that ThinhHo stated that BaA build on the newest Reforged. (not that easy to downgrade, not even worth it since there is hope for Reforged)

Because there's lots of people using pirated versions of the game.

 

[duongsodep]

Because there's lots of people using pirated versions of the game.

How can I forget that. I too even pirated a few years ago . My bad.

 

[ThinhHo]

Greetings everyone,

I hope you've been well. The thread has been relatively quiet lately, but I'm excited to share some exciting news with you. There's been significant progress behind the scenes for Bows and Arrows, and a wave of high-quality updates is on its way. I'll be rolling out a new update in the next couple of days (tomorrow actually), allowing you to immerse yourself in the world of Bows and Arrows like never before. Here's a glimpse of the key features that I have been diligently implementing:

• Cinematic Beauty: I've taken a step towards enhancing your cinematic experience. After some thorough experimentation, I've successfully removed the cinematic frame. Now, dialogues will seamlessly appear like subtitles while you're watching a cinematic, akin to enjoying a movie. This change makes our cinematics more visually stunning and of even higher quality than before. With the upcoming update, all cinematics in the campaign will feature this sleek new presentation. Get ready for a visual treat!

• Improved Gameplay Mechanics: I've overhauled the defeat conditions, the next map transition, respawning system, and the checkpoint system. In the previous version (1.05), some of these elements were inconsistent. Heroes didn't always respawn after death, defeat conditions didn't trigger correctly, and transitioning from one map to the next could be problematic. I've diligently reviewed and addressed these issues. The defeat conditions now vary across different maps, depending on the scenarios and circumstances. Additionally, I've fine-tuned the checkpoint system, making it easier for you to load your progress.
• Balanced Abilities: In my commitment to a more balanced gameplay experience, I've buffed, nerfed, or revamped a few abilities. This will ensure that your adventures in Bows and Arrows are more engaging and fair.
• Chapter 4 Overhaul: Chapter 4 has received a substantial amount of attention and love. I've improved terrain in specific areas, introduced new enemy types, added exciting optional quests, and included new items to discover. You're in for a treat as you explore this revamped chapter.
• Bug Fixes and Refinements: I've diligently combed through the campaign, identifying and fixing numerous bugs spanning across various chapters. Additionally, I've refined small elements of the campaign, such as cinematic timing, reward drops, and minor aesthetic improvements, to enhance your overall gaming experience.

I'm thrilled to bring these enhancements to you, and I can't wait for you to dive into the updated world of Bows and Arrows. Stay tuned for the upcoming update in the next couple of days. Thank you for your continued support, and I hope you enjoy all the improvements I've made.

 

[The Nightmare Book]

All, for now, I have played only 1.5 chapters on the first version, but I see that the author continues to update and fix his campaign.
After all - the story, as I saw, is connected through chapters, albeit we don't encounter the same characters in continuous chapters. Like a series of some story.

Looking forward to completing the whole campaign and leaving more targeted reviews!

 

[Bogdanov89]

Hello, thanks for making these custom campaigns.

Can you please elaborate is this compatible with the classic graphics mode in War3 Reforged?

 

[ThinhHo]

Greetings everyone,

I'm excited to announce the release of our latest campaign update, version 1.12, following two weeks of dedicated development. This update is specifically tailored to enhance the latter portion of Chapter 3 while also introducing intricate details to enrich the experience in Chapter 1. Here are the major changes/fixes:

• Improved the latter half of Chapter 3 by introducing new events, quests, and items
• Improved Chapter 1 by adding minor events and quests to enhance the player experience
• Annie now features unit sounds during gameplay, playing as Dryad and Human Sylvannas
• Completely revamped defeat triggers, eliminating the need for chapters to restart upon defeat
• Made visual adjustments to Jenn's character model, giving her a more desaturated skin tone

The latter part of Chapter 3 fell short of our quality standards prior to this update. It was laden with numerous puzzles, which, upon careful reflection, I realized was not aligned with the essence of Warcraft 3, known for its action-packed gameplay. Typically, puzzles are optional, and great maps culminate in epic battles. To rectify this, I expanded the map, restructured enemy placements, introduced new quests, events, and items. As a result, Chapter 3 now stands in excellent form.

I've also observed that some players found Chapter 1 to be overly simplistic, and they have a valid point. Initially, controlling only one unit with limited abilities can create a sense of simplicity. To address this, I've incorporated additional quests and events to infuse the chapter with the depth it deserves. However, it's important to note that the simplicity in Chapter 1 serves a purpose – it eases players into a new playstyle that gradually unfolds throughout the campaign. By the end of the story, your character will have acquired all the tools needed to fully embrace this new playstyle.

Hello, thanks for making these custom campaigns.

Can you please elaborate is this compatible with the classic graphics mode in War3 Reforged?

Hello @Bogdanov89, I regret to inform you that the campaign is currently not compatible with the classic (SD) graphics mode in both old and reforged versions of Warcraft 3. I made an attempt to include both HD and SD models in each map to provide players with the choice between HD and SD graphics. Unfortunately, the Reforged system, upon saving the map, automatically replaced my SD imports with the existing HD imports, despite my intentions. It seems that the Reforged editor is still unable to fully implement certain features it was designed for.

However, I have a solution in mind to address this issue. I plan to create a separate campaign file that exclusively supports the classic mode by replacing all HD models with custom SD ones. The undertaking is substantial, but it is definitely feasible. I am looking to implementing this in the future, ensuring that you can enjoy the campaign in classic mode. Unfortunately, this feature is not available right now. If you haven't already, I encourage you to explore my other campaign, 'Defenders of the Light.' It promises to deliver one of the most exceptional RPG experiences ever crafted on HIVE. It only supports classic mode of course.

 

[ThinhHo]

Greetings everyone,

I am thrilled to unveil the latest update for Bows and Arrows - version 1.14. Here are the general changes/fixes:

• Revamped the layout of Chapter 4's village, enhancing its authenticity as a vibrant village setting
• Addressed a critical issue in Chapter 4 that was preventing dialogues from displaying during cinematics at specific junctures
• Refreshed Annie's new icon for a more appealing visual representation
• Restructured the Necrotic Vigor Ward to exclusively heal allied units, ceasing any healing of enemies
• Eliminated the Checkpoint System
• Improved Void Crystal description
• Made all ability tablets into units from buildings and hide them on minimap

This update has been driven by necessity, as I discovered critical issues affecting Chapter 3 quests like "Monster" and the newly introduced "Blink." These quests wouldn't function correctly when activated in a specific order alongside certain other quests. Additionally, I unearthed a significant bug in Chapter 4 that prevented dialogues from appearing during cinematics after reaching a certain point. This bug emerged after the UIless cinematic update, and players who downloaded the campaign afterward might have experienced Chapter 4 without understanding the characters' dialogues. Since Chapter 4 contains numerous vital character development moments and many cinematics, this would have been a frustrating experience.

I'm pleased to announce that all these issues have been resolved, and the campaign is now more polished than ever.

I created AI-generated unit icons for the characters in Bows and Arrows, but ultimately opted not to incorporate them into the game due to their inconsistent art style when compared to the Reforged icons

In the time between the last update and now, I also dedicated effort to redesigning the layout of the village in Chapter 4, creating a more welcoming and vibrant environment. Apart from the bug fixes, this stands as the most significant improvement in this update.

All these updates have been made to enhance your experience as a player when journeying through this campaign. While your playthrough may encompass a few lengthy maps, I'm confident that by the end, you'll be delighted with the outcome.

Of course, there's always room for further improvement. However, I will be taking a break from my work on Bows and Arrows as I shift my focus to other significant life projects. I hope you thoroughly enjoy Bows and Arrows and kindly share your thoughts. Your feedback is invaluable to me, and I couldn't be happier knowing that someone has completed this journey.