Cinematic Contest #6 - 5 minutes free theme

[Ralle]

After conferring with Shar Dundred and Shain Dundred, we have agreed to raise the first place to $150.

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

Would it be possible that those 150$ worth of steam cards could instead be donated to the Hive in the name of the winner? Some people like me don't use Steam so it'd be nice.

 

[Ralle]

Would it be possible that those 150$ worth of steam cards could instead be donated to the Hive in the name of the winner? Some people like me don't use Steam so it'd be nice.

If the winner doesn't use Steam, I am sure we can figure something out. It's their money. We have not bought the gift card in advance as it depends on the winner's region. This also allows us to find a better solution together.

But of course, the winner is more than welcome to donate the award to the site if you he/she does not need the money .

 

[Dr Super Good]

Unusual that people are willing to pay so much to sponsor such a competition, especially at the rate the prize is inflating.

My concern is that due to the cash reward you will get 1-2 really dedicated people with any other more casual entrants not standing a chance.

 

[Gilles]

My concern is that due to the cash reward you will get 1-2 really dedicated people with any other more casual entrants not standing a chance.

So ?

 

[Panda]

If i was still into editing and triggers id def enter! but good luck to everyone.

 

[NightStalker]

I want to participate too but this seems like itll be a very tough contest. And imo rather than giving 150$ to the first place, the money could be seperated. Idk how u'd do it but;

1. 80
2. 40
3. 30

as an example...

EDIT: Another question I've got is, are you going to judge by the ideas, plots, the thoughts that are used in the cinematic or are you going to just give the good coders a big boost just because they can create awesome looking things? I mean special effects are necessary in some situations but some of us are not capable of doing half of the work in the cinematic you've posted there.

 

[Shar Dundred]

My concern is that due to the cash reward you will get 1-2 really dedicated people with any other more casual entrants not standing a chance.

I see no problem with that, though.

I want to participate too but this seems like itll be a very tough contest. And imo rather than giving 150$ to the first place, the money could be seperated. Idk how u'd do it but;

1. 80
2. 40
3. 30

as an example...

My honest opinion in short:
Nope, 150$ for first prize.

 

[NightStalker]

The prize is up to you to decide, but what about the my other question?

 

[Hantoo]

Is this have to be solo or can be done in a group?

 

[Radicool]

Looks pretty cool. This might motivate me to make that Starcraft styled cinematic I've wanted to do. Hmmm

use music with a permitting license.

I wonder how strict the guidelines here are? Blizzard music doesn't always fit a given cinematic and gaining permission from reputable sources is unlikely. For these circumstances I wonder if the Fair Use policy applies? Our cinemtics are not going to be sold.

 

[Ralle]

Is this have to be solo or can be done in a group?

Read the thread.

 

[Filmting]

I will be entering this.

Edit:
Question about:
The map will consist only of a “Cinematic Sequence” and not exceed five (5) minutes in length.

Define "Cinematic Sequence". This might clash with what I have in mind, as my little short story would progress over some time, with some montage kind of elements in it.

 

[APproject]

Another question I've got is, are you going to judge by the ideas, plots, the thoughts that are used in the cinematic or are you going to just give the good coders a big boost just because they can create awesome looking things?

Just read the first post. Why people aren't reading it and starts jumping into questions?

Define "Cinematic Sequence".

I suppose 100% of game time must have Cinematic Mode On.

In my opinion first place boost is more motivational than the spread into 3. If it was spread, one might not have to try as hard to win something as I am almost certain there will be very little participants despite the big prize (hopefully more than 2), but I hope I am wrong. Because usually many people deem to be participating without evaluating how much it takes to make a cinematic, and in the end roughly 20% post their submittions (that's what happened in the last 3 or 4 cinematic contests).

 

[Chaosy]

I was about to create something. But then I realized school starts and I will prioritize games instead of modding in my free time.

 

[Hantoo]

Read the thread.

"get help" and group should be different?
btw, im cooperating with one of my friend then, since is 2016 january, some time will be in holiday, which means.... Me joinin

 

[Blightsower]

Omg cinematics i wanna see the entries!

 

[_lycan]

I really wish i had time to work on this

 

[Winimasker]

Great!

Subscribed!

 

[Ralle]

Filmting, I think what we mean is that from starting the map and 5 minutes forward there is no user interaction. Your movie can cover years as long as the viewing duration is just 5 minutes.

 

[Ardenian]

No idea whether this is the best approach for the basic layout.
I guess I will create the atmosphere this way and make the little details with little doodads.

 

[Arad MNK]

Started a whole WC3C project, using B2M and CinemaSystem1.5 (was this the name?) as I'm an Amateur JASS user and I don't know vJASS

 

[NightStalker]

Just read the first post. Why people aren't reading it and starts jumping into questions?

I have read all of it before writing down anything. Please don't walk on somebody before thinking.

The rules say;
"Acting/dialogue" - are the characters believable? do their words/actions make sense?
"Plot" - is the story plain, or does it speak to the viewer, can the viewer relate?
"Cinematography" - this is a mix of terrain and cameras, the overall look of the motionpicture.
"Pacing" - how smooth and well-timed are the sequences.
"Creativity" - is this original?
"Entertainment" - was the viewer entertained while viewing, this is a bit subjective perhaps, but leaves room for a personal overall score on the film.

So what are the percentages of these? Which will have bigger importance thane the others?

Maybe I have an amazing scenario, but I lack the skills to make it. On the other hand someone can have a so-so scenario while making it look incredible by coding. You understand what I'm saying?

 

[WhiteFang]

50 dollars are like a fortune! well at least here in Africa!

True,and now that the price money is increased....wow
$150 is R2063.44!.Holy crap,I can upgrade my PC with that.....but I won't

1.I would keep it for more important stuff
2.I'm not participating

 

[Loner-Magixxar]

I wonder how strict the guidelines here are? Blizzard music doesn't always fit a given cinematic and gaining permission from reputable sources is unlikely. For these circumstances I wonder if the Fair Use policy applies? Our cinemtics are not going to be sold.

I totally agree!

 

[Ardenian]

Looks pretty cool. This might motivate me to make that Starcraft styled cinematic I've wanted to do. Hmmm

I wonder how strict the guidelines here are? Blizzard music doesn't always fit a given cinematic and gaining permission from reputable sources is unlikely. For these circumstances I wonder if the Fair Use policy applies? Our cinemtics are not going to be sold.

I totally agree!

You have WoW, the Warcraft games, the StarCraft games and the Diablo games. There should be some material you can use, considering you can mix them and alter them to fit your wishes.

 

[APproject]

Maybe I have an amazing scenario, but I lack the skills to make it. On the other hand someone can have a so-so scenario while making it look incredible by coding. You understand what I'm saying?

There is no criteria that would exclude coding or special effects, that's what I meant and you can see it for yourself, you cited it after all. From criteria list it is very clear that it does not matter how good you are at Jass, maybe it falls under Entertainment criteria, but it can be entertaining even without extreme coding skills and massive special effects. Your incredible scenario falls under Plot, therefore it is more important than special effects. Usually criteria is split equally and shares the same percentage.

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

Our affiliates Brigand's and Diplo are on board and sponsoring!

 

[Archian]

Nice, good job StoPCampinGn00b!

However, Brigand has posted the outdated one ($50 where it should say $150).

Will you inform them that the prize is $150?

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

Nice, good job StoPCampinGn00b!

However, Brigand has posted the outdated one ($50 where it should say $150).

Will you inform them that the prize is $150?

Will do. The image on Hive still says $50, though.

 

[Archian]

Will do. The image on Hive still says $50, though.

No it doesn't, try to refresh your browser

 

[Loner-Magixxar]

No it doesn't, try to refresh your browser

Yes it does!!
Still $50 )

 

[Ardenian]

Yes it does!!
Still $50 )

For me it shows 150$, in the Notices section.

 

[Loner-Magixxar]

For me it shows 150$, in the Notices section.

In the first message of the thread where there is a banner of the contest, it says $50 as prize amount.

EDIT: In the banner itself.

 

[Ardenian]

Hm, for me it shows both in the News and in this thread 150$ in the picture

 

[WhiteFang]

Hm, for me it shows both in the News and in this thread 150$ in the picture

Same

 

[jonhysone]

I don't get it guys, may I use custom music of some other games as long as I mention all the rights and credits of them ?!
Blizzard's music won't really fit the idea I am thinking of.

 

[Ardenian]

I don't get it guys, may I use custom music of some other games as long as I mention all the rights and credits of them ?!
Blizzard's music won't really fit the idea I am thinking of.

No, you are not ( usually). Music form other games is copyrighted and you do not have a license to use it for public purposes, like this contest, no matter whether you bought it or got it as a gift or so on.
Only music from other Blizzard games is allowed.

 

[APproject]

Any music is allowed as long as it is not copyrighted and is a free resource to use, or a license is given to use it.

 

[Ralle]

A good rule of thumb but not a guarantee: If you have to pirate or pay to get access to it, you probably can't use it.

Awesome with the affiliates .

 

[NightStalker]

There is no criteria that would exclude coding or special effects, that's what I meant and you can see it for yourself, you cited it after all. From criteria list it is very clear that it does not matter how good you are at Jass, maybe it falls under Entertainment criteria, but it can be entertaining even without extreme coding skills and massive special effects. Your incredible scenario falls under Plot, therefore it is more important than special effects. Usually criteria is split equally and shares the same percentage.

My fear is, it is sure that you and some others that I dont know about will come up with super cinematics in coding, and im sure you are all creative enough to come up with good scenarios as well, but why the hell am i crying? idk I was just shouting out my concerns.

I don't get it guys, may I use custom music of some other games as long as I mention all the rights and credits of them ?!
Blizzard's music won't really fit the idea I am thinking of.

Say that to DMCA records or what the heck it is I got a few vids banned from youtube just bcz of copyright issues.

 

[Anitarf]

I think some of you are putting too much emphasis on coding. You don't really have to be a good coder to make good cinematics. All the other elements are more important in my opinion. Terrain, very very much. Music, too. Custom models and animations. Camera work. Timing. Pacing. How it all comes together.

Sure, I think using a vJass system can help a lot with the timings because short waits in GUI triggers are inaccurate. But you don't have to be a coder to use a system, you only have to be a coder to write one, and that's already been done. And even if vJass scares you that much, you can still use timers instead of waits in GUI. It'll be messy, but it can be done.

And that's it, the only tricky part when it comes to coding a cinematic, the timings. The rest doesn't have to be that complicated. Sure, you can make a vJass spell with a hundred particles following complicated equations, but that won't make the scene awesome. What will do it is the setup, the tension you manage to build up with the music and the cameras, the close-ups, the way you compose character animations. You don't need brilliant coding for this, you need the patience and the drive to re-watch the same section over and over again, noticing new details that could be added or changed, tweaking the timings, speeds and durations so that one character animation flows better into another, so that cinematic events and camera changes sync up with the music. That's what making cinematics is all about.

 

[Bernkastel]

Hmh. This whole thing is very tempting (Well, money! Duh!). A pity I do not know a thing about coding, my camera work would be ugly.
And I am using a crappy microphone at the moment anyway, it would ruin everything with the noise. BZZZZT!

Such work this one. I am expecting some great entries here. But what if I will be disappointed? That's a really annoying feeling, to see how the participants were not as qualified as imagined, that makes one feel bad doesn't it.
Stupid, stupid.

And helping someone doesn't benefit one in any way.

Was thinking of adding some goodies to the prize pool, but I think there's enough Steam dick to offer for one contest - I call dibs on the next one.


Best regards - the most lovable creature on the site



[[ But I have to admit that this one has caught the attention of every nobody on this site for the very least. ]]

 

[Loner-Magixxar]

i think some of you are putting too much emphasis on coding. You don't really have to be a good coder to make good cinematics. All the other elements are more important in my opinion. Terrain, very very much. Music, too. Custom models and animations. Camera work. Timing. Pacing. How it all comes together.

Sure, i think using a vjass system can help a lot with the timings because short waits in gui triggers are inaccurate. But you don't have to be a coder to use a system, you only have to be a coder to write one, and that's already been done. And even if vjass scares you that much, you can still use timers instead of waits in gui. It'll be messy, but it can be done.

And that's it, the only tricky part when it comes to coding a cinematic, the timings. The rest doesn't have to be that complicated. Sure, you can make a vjass spell with a hundred particles following complicated equations, but that won't make the scene awesome. What will do it is the setup, the tension you manage to build up with the music and the cameras, the close-ups, the way you compose character animations. You don't need brilliant coding for this, you need the patience and the drive to re-watch the same section over and over again, noticing new details that could be added or changed, tweaking the timings, speeds and durations so that one character animation flows better into another, so that cinematic events and camera changes sync up with the music. That's what making cinematics is all about.

nuff said!!!

 

[APproject]

but why the hell am i crying? idk I was just shouting out my concerns.

Don't worry, I myself count on leaky GUI all the time if that falls under your concern. Anitarf put it very well.

 

[Cokemonkey11]

I was about to create something. But then I realized school starts and I will prioritize games instead of modding in my free time.

I reckon loads of people are in the same boat, including me. Show off your time management skills by finishing the whole entry before school starts

I'm planning to have my finished product in 2 weeks, *if* I participate.

 

[Arad MNK]

A good rule of thumb but not a guarantee: If you have to pirate or pay to get access to it, you probably can't use it.

Even if the map is protected?

=====

Can we start making the Cinematic?

 

[Ralle]

The contest started several days ago. Begin!

Map protection has nothing to do with licensing.

 

[Trakya]

No offense but why not create cinematic with HD models? Watching this is so bad, because of the low quality

 

[Bernkastel]

No offense but why not create cinematic with HD models? Watching this is so bad, because of the low quality

You are low quality.