Terraining Contest #10[playable] - Surrealism

[L_Lawliet]

maybe, surrealism isn't my scene. backing out >.<

 

[Deolrin]

Just wait, that's center... i making the atlatis around... with murlocs and details, runes and much. Will give a map later for easier preview.

It doesn't sounds like 'surrealism', it sounds like 'fantasy'.

 

[Anachron]

Are we allowed to use the "UTM"?

 

[Boneknight]

that's definitely going to become the infinite stairs

no it wont its just to get a bit up then its gonna head out in 4 diffrent ways each representing a new world

 

[PROXY]

Are we allowed to use the "UTM"?

Ofc. everything, as long everyone can use it.

 

[88WaRCraFT3]

Din't knew that, sh**! But will use few models from it, and when i finish atlatis, some fishes, and flying city under water, will give map and credits.

 

[Dr. House]

good news reinstalled windows 7 and i am already working on my terrain

 

[InfinateAnswers]

Good submissions so far.

 

[Cihparg]

Bah, stupid school has started - Yet it shouldn't take too much time from this contest, as I get a lot done in 1 hour.

 

[Boneknight]

I still got a weak before scholl starts for me anyway reserving post for a update whitch is comming soon

 

[GhostG45]

Whoever can best map the scene at the coffee shop from Inception will win in my own personal book.

 

[M0rbid]

Whoever can best map the scene at the coffee shop from Inception will win in my own personal book.

I think only in you own personal book though...
Since the contest is not about recreating but being creative yourself!

 

[88WaRCraFT3]

Am I able to change my theme? I have an more surrealism idea... so i want new map, will i start it, or not?

 

[M0rbid]

Of course you are, as long as you do show WiP's and clarify about your final submission it is totally fine.

 

[88WaRCraFT3]

hjuuj, thank's man and thanks god Cause i have totaly difrent idea and much

 

[Belgarath]

Whoever can best map the scene at the coffee shop from Inception will win in my own personal book.

blowing up or world turned upside down?

 

[Accname]

Well, i dont know whether i will finish it within the deadline but here are some early WIPs taken from the editor:

WIPs

Some Playable Terrain

Floating Enviroment

An altar, important for the gameplay

what should the game be like? i know this is a terraining and not a mapping contest but still there should be some action i guess and not just walking around like a fool...

 

[M0rbid]

hjuuj, thank's man and thanks god

Isn't that the same?

 

[PROXY]

Isn't that the same?

I lold.

 

[Oziris]

Accname, the third WIP looks really nice. Cant wait to see more updates!

 

[Accname]

Accname, the third WIP looks really nice. Cant wait to see more updates!

actually its just a bunch of random doodads stitched together to give a funny pile of funky colors. i am working slowly on it because i havent gotten that lot of time... unfortunately.

 

[88WaRCraFT3]

Isn't that the same?

Yes my Lordogodsithnator! Lord,God,Sith,Nator

 

[Accname]

some more wips.
i hope these are enough for me to enter the contest.

WIP's

Magic Mushrooms

Crazy Plants

... even more crazy plants...

some serious surreal stuff there i hope...

 

[88WaRCraFT3]

Accname you have a lot of chance to win! It's realy awesome

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Accname you have a lot of chance to win! It's realy awesome

Ummm his work is okay so far... but I wouldn't make that assumption so quickly, especially with Keiji in the contest. Sorry for the whole buzz kill thing, but your terrain can use a lot of work Accname

 

[The_Olorin]

Heres a begining of my modest map "Museum of Dreams"

Wip 1:Entrance

Wip 2:Room 1:"Throne of Blood Swamp"

Wip 3:Room 1:"Throne of Blood Swamp"

The map is about of a man, who sees dream and in dream he is in somekind of museum where there are 4 room with weard stuff.
There will be 3 more rooms, so those will come later, when they are ready enough to show.

 

[-Kobas-]

Looks cool

 

[PROXY]

Heres a begining of my modest map "Museum of Dreams"

Wip 1:Entrance

Wip 2:Room 1:"Throne of Blood Swamp"

Wip 3:Room 1:"Throne of Blood Swamp"

The map is about of a man, who sees dream and in dream he is in somekind of museum where there are 4 room with weard stuff.
There will be 3 more rooms, so those will come later, when they are ready enough to show.

I love it

 

[Accname]

Ummm his work is okay so far... but I wouldn't make that assumption so quickly, especially with Keiji in the contest. Sorry for the whole buzz kill thing, but your terrain can use a lot of work Accname

you know, my definition of art is that art is stuff some people find awesome which others call shit.

in these kinds of contests the contestants are supposed to create art and since art cannot be judged seriously i am not entering this contest with a hope to win nor with the thought of a prize woth winning at all.
i do this stuff because i like the theme and i want to see what i still can do with this old game.

the other WIP's showed some nice terrains as well, they have a different approach then i, while i try to focus on original wc3 models only they try to use mostly imported once. you can say you like one more then the other but you cannot say one is better. i think the only thing which can be rated in this contest is how much work someone was ready to put into his creation, how much time and creativity he invested into that map.
i have posted some early WIP's as the rules told me to do and now i will see if i can finish this map within time and then i will most probably never visit this thread and maybe not even this site anymore cause i have actually stopped working with wc3 some time ago.

good luck to all participants.

 

[Sorceress]

im out.

 

[Oziris]

The_Olorin, the candles are kind of random IMO even for a dream. Good job nevertheless.

 

[The_Olorin]

Ye i started to think about that too after i had made them, maybe i remove them, will see.

 

[M0rbid]

you know, my definition of art is that art is stuff some people find awesome which others call shit.

in these kinds of contests the contestants are supposed to create art and since art cannot be judged seriously i am not entering this contest with a hope to win nor with the thought of a prize woth winning at all.
i do this stuff because i like the theme and i want to see what i still can do with this old game.

the other WIP's showed some nice terrains as well, they have a different approach then i, while i try to focus on original wc3 models only they try to use mostly imported once. you can say you like one more then the other but you cannot say one is better. i think the only thing which can be rated in this contest is how much work someone was ready to put into his creation, how much time and creativity he invested into that map.
i have posted some early WIP's as the rules told me to do and now i will see if i can finish this map within time and then i will most probably never visit this thread and maybe not even this site anymore cause i have actually stopped working with wc3 some time ago.

good luck to all participants.

Well, I don't want to sound to harsh....
But that's wrong.
In art you do as well as in terraining need a basic to good skilll of the thing behind hit. Meaning an artist who cannot draw a bit will rarely be able to create art on a canvas.
Same goes for a terrainer. A terrainer without skills in doodad placement/rotation, and a general knowledge about aestethicts etc. won't be able to create an artistic terrain.

Reason: Only who has a specific level of skill can REALLY express what he WANTS to express!

On a second note you are right that what is expressed in a terrain his way harder to judge...
But still you should remember that technique is JUDGEABLE!

 

[Accname]

one hasnt gotten to agree that a specific technique is good.
people might think that their terrain is better looking though they used less "advanced" techniques then others.
you are right when you are saying how well someone used a tool is judgeable but you cannot tell whether the usage does make it better or not. at least you cannot tell from an objective point of view.

but i dont want to screw this contest by saying: "you cannot judge my terrain because its art". i will just participate and not bother how many points i ll get. i dont know why i posted that last reply in the first place, maybe i just thought that sounded cool.

and by the way, you dont sound harsh but pretty constructive.

 

[Celaquil]

Let me go deeper into what M0rbid is trying to say here:

As much as we Terrainers love to call ourselves "artists," that isnt completely true. The most equivalent name to it would be "level designer." A terrainer creates something with rules, he creates nature and constructions, for the most part. And thus a terrainer should be able to know where sertain natural objects should be placed depending on the others, and how an economical system works, as well as to know somewhat how a construction is built up, and to portray it in a fashion that wouldn't seem "unrealistic."

As you can see, there is a capability of judging a terrain based on these principples, how well a person creates his/her forest, how well he/she constructs a structure, and so on.

We're not telling you that you can't have your personal oppinion, but we are telling you that terrain IS judgable. But then, the theme of this contest is surreal, so I kind of see what you mean considering this contest, nothing have to be logical, hence it shouldn't. And then the principple of judgement rather... slips. Still, our judges WILL do their best.

 

[-SoulBurn]

After what Keiji said i think we can stop discussing what is art and what is not and go back to terraining

 

[Accname]

[...] Still, our judges WILL do their best.

yeah, i am sure about that, otherwise i wouldnt participate.

 

[Cihparg]

Guys, I've lost my inspiration - not sure if I can continue the contest anymore =/

 

[Oziris]

Too bad offgraphic, i was looking forward to seeing your terrain finished. Three people "signed" out that's including you.

 

[-SoulBurn]

Too bad offgraphic, i was looking forward to seeing your terrain finished. Three people "signed" out that's including you.

Actually, including offgraphic there are 5. I may keep the list updated if you want.

List

Wow, im out, very nice btw i have no clue how you made it look so nice

School has taken me over, no time to do this im dropping out sorry

Im out.

im out.

Guys, I've lost my inspiration - not sure if I can continue the contest anymore =/

 

[Just_Spectating]

i have an idea, i'm just too lazy to make it. no motivation right now.

 

[Cihparg]

I'm not out fully yet, I have to see if my inspiration comes back - Afterall, there's still lots of time.

 

[Oziris]

I'll show mine now. Ofc, this is not all. Just to lazy to take those screen shots and then crop them.

 

[The_Olorin]

Nice pic's Oziris.
I like your surrealism theme. Unreal, but not with in dark tones. My rookie opinion is that it is nicely made.

Damn you all are so good, . . . but i give my best.

 

[Oziris]

Yeah, I've went with a bright style, seeing most of the people going for a dark styled terrain.

 

[The_Olorin]

And now to the "Room 2" of the map "Museum of Dreams". The room is ready so much to show it now.

Room 2:Village of the Tiny people

Room 2:Village of the Tiny people

Room 2:Village of the Tiny people

The big villager show how big the main character in the map will be.

Couple of my friends have asked me what is this to do with the surrealism. And i tell you cause i guess other may have that question too.

My map isnt about extreme surrealism, i take surrealism as mystic and dream world and i make it like so with less extreme.


2 rooms to go.
Good luck to all competitors

 

[Cihparg]

Great job there Oziris!

Offtopic: Doing some stuff to map.

 

[PROXY]

And now to the "Room 2" of the map "Museum of Dreams". The room is ready so much to show it now.

Room 2:Village of the Tiny people

Room 2:Village of the Tiny people

Room 2:Village of the Tiny people

The big villager show how big the main character in the map will be.

Couple of my friends have asked me what is this to do with the surrealism. And i tell you cause i guess other may have that question too.

My map isnt about extreme surrealism, i take surrealism as mystic and dream world and i make it like so with less extreme.


2 rooms to go.
Good luck to all competitors

I like it really much such simple/such good idea

 

[Accname]

@the olorin:
that reminded me so much of soul blazer...

 

[Just_Spectating]

I think i'll start making mine