Sunwell TD v 1.30

[Helheim]

Feel free to ask questions, make suggestions, and speak some critique! Bugs reports are highly appreciated.

 

[Eat_Bacon_Daily]

I'm always up for new TDs! Looks very similar to White TD. I'll post a review after I play it

 

[Helheim]

I'm always up for new TDs! Looks very similar to White TD. I'll post a review after I play it

Nice! You're right, that's a remake of White TD. But I've found its mechanics can be too complicated for people (no one reads hints I suspect )
Was forced to add a casual mode with towers auto-casting and even auto-targeting (in certain rounds) and do huge enemys' nerf.

 

[Helheim]

I'm always up for new TDs! Looks very similar to White TD. I'll post a review after I play it

Got any feedback yet?

 

[Helheim]

v 1.02 ready!

 

[deepstrasz]

Can you provide evidence that you tried contacting the original author(s) before editing/remaking his/her/their work?
Seems advanced and improved enough to be different but they layout is pretty much the same.

Some icons look passive but they are active like the one for upgrading the Poison Tower. You can make them look properly with: Button Manager v1.8.2 Similarly, lots of passive tower ability icons look active instead of passive.
Upgraded towers look the same; could be nice to increase their size or change their colour, something.

Pending.

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[Helheim]

Can you provide evidence that you tried contacting the original author(s) before editing/remaking his/her/their work?

Specifically?
If you're talking about the original map, White TD - well, then, here I am, the original author. My nick was gg_2_you), but I've lost my e-mail, so I have no access to my old accounts long time ago. What exactly do you need to prove that I'm - me?

Button Manager v1.8.2

Yeah, I have this tool. But you're the first one who complains about icons. For acid (former toxine) tower - it's a first complain back from 2011... But most of the icons you've mentioned are the original WCIII icons, I assume. Is that.. legal?

Upgraded towers look the same

Not exactly the same, the color and scaling are quite different. At least to my eyes... The color changes will require some additional triggers lines. What exact towers types you suggest to resize\recolor? And what is the approximate range of the change step should be?

 

[deepstrasz]

If you're talking about the original map, White TD - well, then, here I am, the original author. My nick was gg_2_you), but I've lost my e-mail, so I have no access to my old accounts long time ago. What exactly do you need to prove that I'm - me?

If you can prove you are that person, your accounts will be merged. Multiaccounting isn't allowed anyway.

Yeah, I have this tool. But you're the first one who complains about icons. For acid (former toxine) tower - it's a first complain back from 2011... But most of the icons you've mentioned are the original WCIII icons, I assume. Is that.. legal?

I'm not saying it's illegal. I'm saying you could polish things if you want to.

Not exactly the same, the color and scaling are quite different. At least to my eyes... The color changes will require some additional triggers lines. What exact towers types you suggest to resize\recolor? And what is the approximate range of the change step should be?

Might be me but the Orc looking tower looks the same to me on every upgrade.

 

[Helheim]

If you can prove you are that person

So, how one can make such proof? My e-mail was deleted a long time ago. And ofc. I can't remember the password 10 years after. I still have the access to discord and w3reforged.com accounts, but I don't think it can be counted here. Unprotected map file have died back in 2011 with my old HDD.

I'm saying you could polish things if you want to

Yup, I'm into polishing, just asking if editing of blizzard's icons can cause any troubles...

 

[Ralle]

I just did a quick check. There's barely anything left to verify that Helheim is the owner. Perhaps if the war3map.wtg file is removed in the uploaded versions but he has the one without protection that could prove ownership?

 

[Helheim]

I just did a quick check. There's barely anything left to verify that Helheim is the owner. Perhaps if the war3map.wtg file is removed in the uploaded versions but he has the one without protection that could prove ownership?

Like I said, the unprotected map file lost in 2011 when my HDD have died... The only thing that comes into my mind - if someone here have mailed me back in 2011 he could check me via Email owner's name.

 

[deepstrasz]

Hopefully, the owner is legit. Until anyone claiming rights to the map comes with evidence

Approved.

 

[Helheim]

Finally back from vacation.
The new map version is ready. Have fixed mismatching icons and towers color\scale. Have to redo half of the triggers to increase endgame FPS.

Hopefully, the owner is legit.

Ofc I am!
Let's be honest. Noone other than the original creator would spend hundreds of hours on a remake of not the most popular map.
WorldEditor save count... 9031

 

[Helheim]

v 1.04 Ready!

• Fixed broken -let\-forbid commands and round 40 spawnings.
• Some towers' abilities got buffed.
• Casual mode becomes easier.

 

[Helheim]

v 1.05 ready!

• Multiboard no longer maximized each round.
• Have to buff some towers.
• Enemys' armor buffs nerfed.

 

[Helheim]

v 1.06 ready!

• Added camera buttons.
• Can do 1 sec. delay between rounds.
• Builder's Focus Attacks cooldown removed.
• Citadel's Shield Overload twice longer.
• Some rounds minor fixes.

 

[Helheim]

v 1.08 ready!

• Upgraded AI for some towers.
• Fixed errors in final round triggers, so the boss's stats also had to be re-balanced.
• I hope this time that naughty scoreboard error got its final fix...

 

[Helheim]

I've got reports about game crashes from those, who play Reforged graphics.
To avoid this, the Red player can type -woff. This command turns off weather effects, which seems to be the game crashing problem...
Please, let me know if this solution has helped you (or not).

 

[Helheim]

v 1.09 ready!

• Have to remove weather at all to stop Reforged graphics crashes.
• Have to limit towers number by 110 per player to prevent end-game slideshow.
• Since the number of towers is limited, to compensate for it, I've added 2 new upgrades: double the tower's abilities chance to proc and increase all non-chaos tower's attack range.
• Various errors were fixed.

P.S: Would be nice to have some feedback about end-game performance, if possible.

 

[Gnuoy]

Great polish - each player has a blood mage siphoning magic from the Sunwell. I hosted on medium difficulty and it was difficult, at least the defeat cinematic was enjoyable to watch.

 

[Helheim]

Great polish - each player has a blood mage siphoning magic from the Sunwell. I hosted on medium difficulty and it was difficult, at least the defeat cinematic was enjoyable to watch.

Oh, thank you!
It seems that micro control necessity is the main obstacle for players here.
I've made it significantly less critical for Novice difficulty, but it appears to do little to help cause people are starting to explore the map with Easy or Medium
Perhaps I may have to nerf Easy and Medium difficulties as well, by towers auto-targeting.
Would be nice to have feedback and suggestions on what should be changed!

 

[Helheim]

v 1.10 ready!

• Added new buttons for towers' Ai and game timer.
• Removed builder assistants' training limit.
• Made rounds going faster.
• +2 lesser creeps spawn for a slight income increase
• Some siege towers got buffed.
• Some rounds got balanced\fixed.

 

[Helheim]

v 1.12 ready!

• Towers will auto-select all critical targets for Novice difficulty.
• Plenty of rounds got nerfed.
• More gold!

 

[polardude]

it is a decent td map you have made

 

[Helheim]

it is a decent td map you have made

Thank you!

 

[Helheim]

v 1.13 ready!

• A couple of bugs were fixed.
• The last boss' hidden armor bonus was removed (was active in the co-op mode, on hard+ difficulty, if players got different Perfect Towers upgrades).

 

[Helheim]

v 1.15 ready!

• Higher difficulties are locked to avoid first-timer vs. Insane frustrations. 3+ completed boss rounds are required to unlock the next difficulty level.
• Decreased max. possible time between rounds; decreased player's spells cooldowns.
• 10% fewer towers, 10% fewer creeps, less towers attack speed, more towers attack damage (should save some FPS).
• Alchemy Tower's "Greed" now works on leaked creeps in the co-op (should help non-red players to come back).

 

[Helheim]

v 1.16 (hotfix)

• Shield Overload (Citadel spell) was bugged in v.1.15 for cooperative mode. Now it works correctly.

 

[Helheim]

v 1.18 ready!

• Some of the minor polishing and a couple of fixes.

 

[Helheim]

v 1.20 ready!

• Added -cam lock\unlock function for those who prefer to scroll the camera distance.
• Defeating 1/2 of Novice difficulty bosses unlocks Easy and Medium difficulty; Easy or Medium unlocks all other options.
• Glaive and Chaos Prism got buffed; all Perfect Towers upgrades got equal armor penetration (-10).
• Archimonde's 3rd phase removed for [NOVICE]\[EASY].

 

[apply]

Big thx! Was looking for some good TD to play and found this one. It was amazing. Played at normal speed tho ^_^ (not default fast wc3 speed I mean) Otherwise wasnt able to process - bit too low period between waves

 

[Helheim]

Otherwise wasnt able to process - bit too low period between waves

Hi!
You can change the time between waves from 1 to 60 sec. Either type a "-speed 60" (or any other time you need) command, or just press a custom "+" button (it's bottom right, near the hero items panel), it will add +5 sec to spawn timer (up to 60 sec).

 

[Blasterixx]

I've played this game 10 times in a row, and it got worse each time. The main problem with the game is that you have to build very specific towers in a very specific order, or else you die. I'm not sure I am a fan of this, as it takes away from the game's fun aspect, making it lame to play. I keep dying at random levels just because I didn't build that one specific tower or because I didn't do that specific upgrade at the exact level I needed it. On one level I kill all units just fine, and on the next level, I don't kill any units. What is this? I was playing on easy as well. The furthest I've got is level 20.

Another weird thing, sometimes my towers get a damage debuff right off the bat when I start a game and sometimes they don't get it, very bizarre.

Funniest shit ever, even after I did everything right, I still died at lvl 20, built every tower, made every upgrade, targeted his portals, etc. still couldn't kill the boss, Sorry but this is just bad design, and this is supposed to be on easy mode.

 

[Helheim]

Thank you for your honest review!
I agree that the map design may be overly complicated in some parts.

However, the building order still has some alternatives. Yup, the Apothecary is the best builder assistant to start with (cause of Alchemy Tower's gold bonus). But aside from that, various builds should work, as long as you have enough slowing and anti-spell casters stuff.

I keep dying at random levels

I assume the non-boss rounds may be difficult due to frost armor /inner fire creeps' buffs.
One can plant a Cannon Tower's EMP mine into the creep caster pack, so their mana and buffs are gone.
Or use the Arcane tower to dispel these buffs.
Or get some upgraded (Tier II-III) Plague Towers and Cannon Towers (Incendiary Bombs mode) - their spell damage ignores the creeps' armor.
Or get a combination of these variants.

I still died at lvl 20

As for Round 20, as far I understand, the trouble was in Inferno that won't let the boss hit points fall below 30%
One can use the Citadel's Silence spell to stop the Inferno's healing spell casts and try to nuke the boss (that silence lasts 30 sec).
Or just kill the Inferno first and then finish the boss.

sometimes my towers get a damage debuff right off the bat

Indeed, each subsequent difficulty level has one of four random creep buffs or tower debuffs. Their purpose is to add some variability and slightly alter the proportions of different tower types.

If you have any suggestions on what specifically needs to be removed/weakened/added/strengthened - please let me know!
Or maybe you could send me a replay, so I can figure out what exactly I have to nerf.

For now, it seems I should make the towers auto-target the Inferno for easy mode as well.

 

[Helheim]

v 1.25 ready!

• Grid system added.
• AI button got replaced by a separated AI Micro & AI Spell buttons. AI auto-target is available on any difficulty, but now its activation does the towers' attack haste penalty (depending on the difficulty lvl).
• Bugs made by 2.0+ WC3 patch fixed.
• 3 New towers: Necro, Tesla and Hellfire.
• Plague\Lightning\Cannon towers and Poison\Frost\Fire\ arrow towers got +1 upgrade lvl.
• Most of towers' spells now require 1k mana, but their CD's were reduced.
• Ranks and PvP score count reworked. Have added a skins shop (new skins are unlocked by completing the challenges).
• Since there are alot of changes, the old save file won't work with this or higher versions.

 

[Helheim]

v 1.27 ready!

• Fixed the annoying "Greed" message.
• Necro Tower got buffed.

 

[Helheim]

v 1.28 ready!

• Round 48 hero ult' bug fixed.
• +1 upg lvl for Dark Matter
• Glaive damage upgrade added
• Necro Tower: Necro Bolt range upgrade fixed, perfect plague upg adds +1.6k atk damage.

 

[Helheim]

Ok, I might forgot to update the actual map file.. Fixed now!

 

[Helheim]

v 1.30 ready!

• Creeps spawning no longer stops if the prev. heroes still alive.
• Fixed missing/broken upgrades.
• Better AI
• Stronger Tier V spells for some towers.
• Added 10% crit. chance for Tesla tower

 

[Datnes]

Interesting gameplay, however, it was quite hard even on novice difficulty.