Pre-Damnation

[BrightDark]

So the skeleton archer arena went through? I love it already heh.
Please go and finish that murloc map aswell, give it some love!

 

[Edy]

So the skeleton archer arena went through? I love it already heh.
Please go and finish that murloc map aswell, give it some love!

Thank you, sadly it won't be finished sonn, even this YEAR is doubtful. It's 50%-ish done.
Have fun burning, I mean playing . Those are some dope firelord edits fam.

 

[Gigy]

Just played a quick game with my friend, we were able to "obtain" the item by "killing" the drake.
Was a fun quick 1v1, you have excess inventory slots (as only 1 obtainable item exists if I'm not mistaken). You should remove players who aren't playing. Other than that the map was a blast. Also why is the skull uspide down?

 

[Edy]

Just played a quick game with my friend, we were able to "obtain" the item by "killing" the drake.
Was a fun quick 1v1, you have excess inventory slots (as only 1 obtainable item exists if I'm not mistaken). You should remove players who aren't playing. Other than that the map was a blast. Also why is the skull uspide down?

Thanks for the rating . I might add items in the future, as a market of some sorts - the bottom middle part of the map so I didn't bother changing the inventory.
You need to put them at closed I believe the players that are not playing - I have a trigger that checks if it's a user, might change it later idk... Since it was supposed to have AI.
The upside down is a reference to a burning skeleton falling down to hell. Looks funny xD but I like it so it's there like that.

 

[deepstrasz]

Please fix the team 1 for everybody issue so it can be started in multiplayer.

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[Drake53]

Great map, congrats on 3rd place!

Spoiler: Off-topic rant

Please fix the team 1 for everybody issue so it can be started in multiplayer.

Imho, I find it quite embarrassing that blizzard left this issue in the game for over half a year already since they acknowledged it, especially when it should be so easy to fix (if it's not easy, I'd love to hear why). I watched Abelhawk's stream on youtube and seeing him struggling and unable to start this map was very frustrating for me to see.

This isn't even the only map that is affected. Another recent example I came across is Forest Party. And before you say this isn't an issue because map authors can easily fix it themselves, or that it is their responsibility, be aware that older maps with this same problem may be protected and its authors unreachable.

I'd also like to mention that the workaround for mapmakers of making a second force can affect gameplay, for example you are unable to share control through the F11 menu with players from a different force, even when everyone is intended to be on the same team.

In conclusion, it is my opinion that blizzard should deal with this issue, not mapmakers.

 

[Edy]

Great map, congrats on 3rd place!

Spoiler: Off-topic rant

Imho, I find it quite embarrassing that blizzard left this issue in the game for over half a year already since they acknowledged it, especially when it should be so easy to fix (if it's not easy, I'd love to hear why). I watched Abelhawk's stream on youtube and seeing him struggling and unable to start this map was very frustrating for me to see.

This isn't even the only map that is affected. Another recent example I came across is Forest Party. And before you say this isn't an issue because map authors can easily fix it themselves, or that it is their responsibility, be aware that older maps with this same problem may be protected and its authors unreachable.

I'd also like to mention that the workaround for mapmakers of making a second force can affect gameplay, for example you are unable to share control through the F11 menu with players from a different force, even when everyone is intended to be on the same team.

In conclusion, it is my opinion that blizzard should deal with this issue, not mapmakers.

Thanks bro, too bad it couldn't be played due to Team1 issue....
Forgot i thought of making it a team into converting it itno a FFA, mb

 

[deepstrasz]

And before you say this isn't an issue because map authors can easily fix it themselves, or that it is their responsibility, be aware that older maps with this same problem may be protected and its authors unreachable.

I don't remember the time when you could actually start 1 team only maps in multiplayer.

In conclusion, it is my opinion that blizzard should deal with this issue, not mapmakers.

I'm sorry but we can't just leave stuff in Maps which isn't playable. We'll set it to awaiting update until either Blizzard or the author fixes the issues.

 

[Edy]

I don't remember the time when you could actually start 1 team only maps in multiplayer.

I'm sorry but we can't just leave stuff in Maps which isn't playable. We'll set it to awaiting update until either Blizzard or the author fixes the issues.

Agreed with deepstrasz here, It was my mistake - I'll fix it probly tday.

 

[Drake53]

I don't remember the time when you could actually start 1 team only maps in multiplayer.

As someone who started playing this game around 2013, I don't remember the time when you could NOT start 1 team only maps in multiplayer. This issue only resurfaced because blizzard got rid of hosting bots.

I agree in the short term authors should update their maps to keep them playable, but in the long term I expect blizzard to fix this.

 

[deepstrasz]

As someone who started playing this game around 2013, I don't remember the time when you could NOT start 1 team only maps in multiplayer. This issue only resurfaced because blizzard got rid of hosting bots.

I don't know... Just tried local area network on 1.27 with one team only and it says: "All players are currently on the same team; You must have at least two team setup to start the game."
It's the same thing as with 1.31.1. I have no idea what version you've been playing, maybe 1.26?

 

[Drake53]

I don't know... Just tried local area network on 1.27 with one team only and it says: "All players are currently on the same team; You must have at least two team setup to start the game."
It's the same thing as with 1.31.1. I have no idea what version you've been playing, maybe 1.26?

I've always been playing on the latest version. The reason I never ran into this issue before patch 1.30.2 is because I always played using hosting bots, with which you can start a map even when there's only one team.

 

[deepstrasz]

I've always been playing on the latest version. The reason I never ran into this issue before patch 1.30.2 is because I always played using hosting bots, with which you can start a map even when there's only one team.

Bottom line is, the game wasn't made for 1 team only multiplayer launch. That was possible by external means. I don't consider this Blizzard's fault then. They didn't break their own game regarding this matter.
When it comes to out of game programs running through the original program, it could be a security risk.

So, as with .mpq model editors that don't work anymore due to .casc, Blizzard might have had to do something with the programs shifting to out of order, it wasn't necessarily their problem or intentional as much as it might pain people.

 

[Drake53]

the game wasn't made for 1 team only multiplayer launch

This may be true for melee maps, but I don't see why this limitation should exist for custom maps.
I also linked to 1.30.2 hotfix 2 patch notes in my first post, where this is listed under known issues. If they admit it's an issue, they should fix it.

 

[deepstrasz]

Great thing now you can open multiple instances of Warcraft III.exe to test LAN.

You should put the camera over the player hero instead of to a random location/center of the map.
Hero glow? How to add Hero Glow without Modeling

Changes made,
Approved.

(previous comments: Pre-Damnation)

 

[Edy]

Those things are easily done, I haven't done them since I rushed the map, as I mentioned before.
Hero glow would mean the model has been edited - I wouldn't be using an easter egg model as per the competition.