Modeling Competition #7 - Siege Weapons

[Gilles]

I think it's too big for his size. Although he does have some big muscles.

Are you going to edit the Grunt at all?

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

say... since i am making all these warhammer 40k stuff, does a defiler count as a sieze wepon?
and where do you submit the model?
there is no poly limit is there?

 

[SuPa-]

I think a defiler would, lol... I was going to do one, but switched my idea

 

[Callahan]

say... since i am making all these warhammer 40k stuff, does a defiler count as a sieze wepon?
and where do you submit the model?
there is no poly limit is there?

Damn!Make your own idea rather than translate already exisiting work in model.
Having his own idea and trying to concretize it is far more exciting.

edit : btw i join the contest.

 

[Lord_T]

Yay!!!!

My GruntMolisher's almost done, Just a matter of polishing his animations and adding a spell slam. (Smashing the ground with catapult).
Any feedback appreciated ^_^.

 

[Dionesiist]

The shoulders are still weird, I suggest you do something about it..

 

[SuPa-]

Meh, sense we're not allowed to make packs, I'm not sure which model I'll eventually submit.

Either the hover turret or this alien flak cannon

 

[iristle]

Eugh, i try, I doubt its the best, but oh well.

Behold the Mobile Goblin Defensive Missile Turret, or The MGDMT for short.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

Damn!Make your own idea rather than translate already exisiting work in model.
Having his own idea and trying to concretize it is far more exciting.

edit : btw i join the contest.

arghhhh!!!! Fine i will make sumthing else.
what a waste. i was up to animating it

on another topic
SuPa-, that looks coooool

 

[Cavman]

Hey, would an infantry unit that has a seige-ish weapon count? Cause I have an idea for a UTN based Morat team, and would like to run with it.

 

[donut3.5]

A mortar team would be fine.
--donut3.5--

 

[D a w n]

would an ufo with an alien who shoots out of some cannon work??^^

 

[Cavman]

Actully, I don't think I'm gonna enter. I wanted to steal the motar teams animation set, but parts of the animation are a little to messed up, so I'm not gonna enter. good luck to everyone else.

 

[SuPa-]

Can you make custom animations in Magos? I could rig your model for you

 

[Cavman]

nah, but thanks anyways SuPa-

 

[donut3.5]

DonDustin, if it is a weapon used for destroying buildings, then yes.
--donut3.5--

 

[Xatoga]

Can someone shoot me a link to Magos please? I still use Wc3Viewer, which can't do much of... anything... and I don't wanna keep animating in Milkshape

 

[donut3.5]

http://magos.thejefffiles.com/War3ModelEditor/
--donut3.5--

 

[Xatoga]

Wait can you animate with that? I have that already I believe, but I didn't know of any use for it but viewing/exporting.

 

[donut3.5]

You can do a LOT of model editing with it, and you can do scaling and translation animation with it, however rotation bugs.
To do animation is very painful, and should only be used for simple tasks. However if you are up to it, right click on a bone, go to edit node, then click on translation or scaling. Then, enter keyframe: {x, y, z}
Keyframe is the frame at which you want it to change, x,y, and z are axis.
--donut3.5--

 

[SuPa-]

Maybe Xatoga is thinking of what Dio uses, Warshape?

 

[Xatoga]

That might be it.

 

[MadseN]

Alright, decided to have a try at the modeling competition for the first time. So just begun to learn all this new stuff, it's really amazing how mush it is to learn and read before you even can do the simplest of things.

Anyway, here's a WIP of what im doing. I was trying to replicate a old traditional Cannon. It got some shitty ingame textures atm ( Haven't learned to Unwrap yet). Tho next step is to animate it, will be nice to see how that goes hehe.

[EDIT] Added a none texture Cannon, with the SuPa tut.

/MadseN

 

[Mechanical Man]

Hey, Thats sweet! We are lacking generic cannons here. James will be pleased.

I just hope that the wheels won't be too high poly.

 

[MadseN]

The Cannon got 432 polys atm, but i will try to reduce later on.

/MadseN

 

[SuPa-]

a lot on the bell of the cannon are really unneeded

Also, rendering tutorials for 3ds Max

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/showpost.php?p=481873&postcount=137

http://www.oman3d.com/tutorials/3ds/clayrender_stealth/

 

[TDR]

MadseN, for the wheels you could apply a technique dating back from the beginning of 3D games:

 

[MadseN]

Oh man that's really smart ! tho im not that good with plane modeling, they don't seem to get round when i try to model them.. Any suggestion how i should start ?

/MadseN

 

[TDR]

...you don't have to modify the plane at all. Just put that kind of map in the alpha channel of the plane's texture.

 

[MadseN]

I mean the cylinder thingy, because the Torus or tube primitives won't allow just one side if you understand what im trying to say.

/MadseN

 

[SuPa-]

Make a tube, delete all of it except the outer rim, add in the plane, apply the alpha texture. If you can't do this, make sure you've converted it to editable poly. Also, to deselect faces/select multiple faces hold down ctrl

 

[TDR]

or even more simple: make a cylinder and delete the side faces

 

[MadseN]

lol, why didn't i think of that, man i really feel like the biggest nuub ever

Anyway tnx alot!

btw got some animation problems but i'll save those for tomorrow hehe

/MadseN

 

[SuPa-]

just remember, two sided materials

 

[Gilles]

MadseN, seems good for a first model! My guess is, give it a few months, you will be blowing people away.

 

[MadseN]

Here's another WIP of the attack animation (Donno how to gif animate it ), Most is done except the textures and some more animation and modeling tweeking (Working on to reduce the poly count).

/MadseN

 

[TDR]

man, you should always finish the mesh before starting animation.
To make gifs you must capture the screen with specialized software, like Camtasia Studio.

 

[SuPa-]

Well, if all he's mainly going to do is replace the wheels he could just re-assign the joints

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

The wheels looks like chips or chocolate.

 

[MadseN]

ye i like it that way hehe Anyway after 2 hours of trial and error i finely did this Animated Gif lol It's the Attack animation. I don't dare to post the Walk animation or the Death yet, they look.. ye horrid ..

/MadseN

 

[Chaos Overlord]

MadseN taht attack anim looks so cool. I really like how you remembered to give it some kick back when it shoots, it looks really good

I wish I could get into modelling... I all I can get is Blender though and idk if that can even make WC models...

 

[Mechanical Man]

Walk does not need to be something special, just wheels rolling and maybe the base spinning a little.

 

[SuPa-]

Ok, I just figured I'd post an mdx with animation WIPs. I decided to go with my alien plasma cannon thing. These WIPs include geoset animations so somethings will be there that aren't regularly there, m'kay? Also, some animations are still in the rough (birth and attack mainly)

Suggestions welcome

 

[MadseN]

Man, That's some awsome animations ! i like the birth one

Btw i got a question, when i animate my Wheels for the Walk animation they tend to squeeze together and are not circle anymore but more egg shaped This only happens when i link them to my box bone and animate the box. But when i unlink it and animate the wheels for themself they stay circle.. Help ?

/MadseN

 

[TDR]

You most likely scaled the box you use as bone. You should NEVER EVER do that. Don't ever scale the bones of your rig or you'll get weird results like that. There's an easy fix for it though. Just unlink the wheel from the box then apply a reset XForm on the box. Then you can link the wheel back and it will all be fine.

 

[Mechanical Man]

Hmm, something similar happens to me, too. But in previewer still looks OK. (no bones used, but the geosets are linked to some parent)

 

[MadseN]

Alright, my first ever Wc3 Model is done I've really learned a lot during the time i made it.

What im not so happy with is that the wheels spins back when it enters the stand mode in wc3. Donno what causing it but i don't think i can fix it anyway because i can't even enter the Dope Sheet anymore because of some errors..

Also im a nuub with textures so i had to make my own because i don't know how to change so the model uses an ingame texture ^^.

Anyway, The model got, Walk, Stand, Attack and a death animation.
The Polycount is 457, i know it's pritty mush, but i will reduce the amount to the next model.

/MadseN

 

[frostwhisper]

I can't say I love the texture... but it is still good for a first model.

 

[skrab]

982 polys?

Death animation sucks =S, the whole model just gets down :S
you can make that all parts can "decompose"... look at the catapults from game
you will see what i'm talking about and also add a Decay animation...

 

[TDR]

I don't get it...why wouldn't you listen to me? I told you how you can make the wheels so you can reduce the polycount...you could reduce almost 100 triangles per wheel with that method, but oh well, suit yourself.