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A Terrible Nightmare v1.04

Submitted by Ungoliath
This bundle is marked as approved. It works and satisfies the submission rules.

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17 JULY 2019: VERSION 1.04
This update brings improved vegetation, new gameplay mechanics, new Guardians and NPCs, and even an alternate ending!


-THE FOREST GETS A MAKEOVER-
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-BLUNDERING HOARDERS-
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-THE MERRY GATHERING-
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-GUARDIAN ITEMS & NEW ENDINGS-
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-WATER GUARDIAN & BLOOD GUARDIAN-
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For a full list of everything added in v1.04, check the changelog below!

22 JAN 2017: VERSION 1.03

This update contains new Guardians, enemies, abilities, mechanics and so much more!
Here's some of the bigger changes and features.


-SOME BIG CHANGES-
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-TELEPORTATION-
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-ELDER GUARDIAN-
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-GHOST GUARDIAN & MOON GUARDIAN-
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For a full list of everything added in v1.03, check the changelog below!

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PLAYERS: 1-8
Horror, Survival, Exploration

S T O R Y
The Dream lies in limbo, and those caught in its current shall dream forever.

You are a lost soul who found yourself in a world called the Dream. It is an afterlife, yet different from the paradise where you would be granted eternal peace.
Those trapped in the Dream are those who experienced something traumatic, and cannot leave until those horrid memories are vanquished forever.

This limbo is a canvas, painted by the traumatic memories of its inhabitants. They manifest into what is known as the Nightmare.

T R A I L E R


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Starting area
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Foundation Torch
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Wishing Well
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Guardian
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MODELS
Amigurumi - XmasCandyStick
Bisnar13 - Bed
Bisnar13 - Mirror Of Truth
Blizzard Entertainment
Blood Raven - Log
Blood Raven - Stump
Born2Modificate - High-Res Doodad Pack & Expansion - Wc3C.net
Carrington2k -
WC3 - Doodad - Fire Fly02
Communist_orc - Witch Hut
Elenai -
Navi
Ergius - GoldOre
Fingolfin - Birch (variation 1)
Fingolfin - Birch (variation 2)
Fingolfin - Birch (variation 3)
Fingolfin - Fir
Fingolfin - Oak (variation 1)
Fingolfin - Oak (variation 2)
Fingolfin - Oak (variation 3)
Fingolfin - Pine (Variation 1)
Fingolfin - Pine (Variation 2)
Fingolfin - Pine (Variation 3)
Fingolfin - Pine (Variation 4)
Fingolfin - Pine (Snow)
Fingolfin - Reach Tree (Yellow)
HappyCockroach - Fetish
Hexus - Owl
Ike_ike - Deadstar
Ike_ike - OlBeanpole
Ike_ike - Papercut
Kellym0 - AnimatedFlowerAv.343
Kellym0 - AnimatedFlowerBV.088
Kellym0 - AnimatedFlowerCV.025
Kellym0 - AnimatedFlowerDV.014
MaxShadow - CloudOfFog
M0rbid - WhiteBishop(256)
Neogaidenx - Glowing Light
Olofmoleman - Teddy Abomination - Wc3C.net
Pyramidhe@d - Butchergirl
Sc_freek - Eerie Fog - Wc3C.net
Sunchips - GrassAnimated
Sunwarrior25 - Torch Attachment
Talavaj - HybrisFactory - Terraining and Mapping Resources
Teaspoon - Search Light

xXm0rpH3usXx - High-Res Doodad Pack - Wc3C.net
Zap - Model

Edited by me (Ungoliath): DalaranMutant, KoboldShoveler, Zombie

SKINS
Dan.L - Detailed Grass - Wc3C.net
Erwtenpeller - Protector of the Pine - Wc3C.net
Falcoknight50 - JonathanGriswald
GooS - HeroForceOfNature.blp
Mr.Goblin - BrownWolf.blp
Mr.Goblin - DireWolf.blp
Mr.Goblin - TimberWolf.blp
Mr.Goblin - Jack and Willow (Willow)
Red Shift - Mountain Giant
Stanakin - CaveKid.blp
Stanakin - GardenGnome.blp
Stanakin - Muppet.BLP
Stanakin - Pengo.blp

Created by me (Ungoliath): Resources by Blizzard Entertainment

ICONS

Bisnar13 - BTNMirroroftruth
CRAZYRUSSIAN - BTNcrHcancel
Darkdeathknight - BTNCompanionWolfDire
GooS -
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/btnbonecrushergs.126484/
Kimbo - BTNwerewolfstare
KelThuzad -
BTNTalking2
Mr.Goblin - http://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/btnearthwolf.113477/#resource-53649
Muoteck - BTNStormCrowRider
Narandza - BTNTeddyBear
~Nightmare - BTNWorgen
Orphon - BTNfox
Stanakin -
BTNGardenGnome

INTERFACE
Dab - CustomCursor.blp
Spellbound - SpellAreaEffectLosttribe512.blp (Edited by me with permission)

SCREENS
Me (Ungoliath) - Loading Screen
Me (Ungoliath) - Map Preview Screen


SOUND EFFECTS
Blizzard - Thaddius
From Software - Milfanito Song
From Software - Nadalia
Hollywood Edge Sound Effects library - Horror Scream
NASA Voyager Space Sounds - Jupiter
Nature of Voice Record - Hyena Laugh
Nature of Voice Record - Wolf Howling

MUSIC
David Lynch - Call from the Past (Inland Empire)
David Lynch & Chrysta Bell - Polish Poem (Inland Empire)
Frictional Games - Ambience 15 (Amnesia the Dark Descent)
Joseph Bishara - Void Moment Suite (Insidious)

-KNOWN ISSUES-
Movement: the game not registering the arrow keys.
Example: "My character keeps spinning even though I'm not pressing any buttons", or "My character keeps moving forward even though I'm not holding the forward button."
Reason: While you hold down the mouse buttons or hit enter (to write a text message), the game won't register the arrow keys. So if you hit enter while moving forward, then release the forward button, you will continue to move forward.
Solution: The solution is quite simple - hit the specific button again. If you are moving forward - hit the forward button. If you are spinning to your left - hit the left arrow key.

Player model disappearing: The child model vanishing, even though the portrait and shadow remain visible.
Example: This has happened to me three times: Once when I tested purchasing a second "Ghost Key Radar", once when I entered the final phase towards the Awakening Ending, and once when I entered the final phase towards the Guardian Ending.
Reason: I really have no explanation for this one. It could be the latest patch, or a memory leak of some kind. Every time this has happened I had played for about 45-55 minutes.
Solution (temporary): Seeing as this is only a visual glitch, it's not game breaking. Although it's now more difficult to select the player character, it's still possible to select a wide area over your player model and thus select it. Or - a perhaps better alternative - use the F1 button to select your player model (hit F1 twice to access your Guardian).

Sound fading: The trigger "Stop sound after fading" not working properly.
Example: The violin music that plays when the Witch is near stopping abruptly.
Reason: This seems to be a bug that came with the latest patch, let's pray for this to get fixed.
Solution: I've tried to manually fade the sound files (through triggers). I'm worried that the "wait" actions between audio levels could mess something up, but I suppose this will work until the bug is fixed in a future patch.

-CHANGELOG-
v1.0 - 28 Dec 2016
- Released as a submission to the Mini-Map Contest #13 (Hiveworkshop.com)

v1.01 - 02 Jan 2017
NEW FEATURES
- New ability: The child now has the Crack Fragment ability, which destroys any fragment in the caster's inventory.
- New
ability: A portable Ghost Key Radar can now be bought from the stationary Radar building.
- New
ability: Guardians can now use Astral Form to gain invisibility for 6 seconds. Useful if you want to retreat from a battle.
- New
model: Fireflies by Carrington2k
- New
music & credits: Polish Poem by David Lynch & Chrysta Bell. It plays during the new end credits.

IMPROVEMENTS
- Fixed some major memory leaks related to points with polar offset.
- Greatly improved background music quality.
- Made some minor icon changes.
- Corrected some grammar errors.
- Added missing sound to Edgar's dialogue
- Fixed a bug where Lutwidge would talk every time the player bought an item.

v1.02 - 03 Jan 2017
HUGE thanks to Deepstrasz for playing through the previous version and giving so much feedback!

NEW FEATURES
- New NPC: Gilbert the Raggedy Lion. He has the talk interaction like any other npc. For a fee he will read a few lines from his different works.
- New purchasable: You can now purchase Fragment Finder from the stationary Radar. It pings one of each fragment that are currently on the map.
- New purchasable: You can now purchase Curious Insight from the Detective Owl. These are hints to the riddles asked by Jack of the Green.
- New skin: Ghoul by me (Ungoliath)

ABILITY CHANGES
ASTRAL FORM
- Entering Astral Form now instantly teleport the Guardian to the player’s position
- Increased Astral Form movement speed from 10% to 20%
- Increased Astral Form duration from 6 seconds to 10 seconds
- Reduced cooldown of Astral Form from 90 seconds to 60 seconds


BLIND THE WICKED
- Reduced the cooldown of Blind the Wicked from 40 seconds to 5 seconds

FEATHER OF A TRAVELER
- Changed it from bouncing to a splash effect, as it was not working as intended

DESTROY
- Destroying buildings now return 50% of the spent resources

IMPROVEMENTS

- The player now stops when units are selected. Exceptions are the child, Guardians, and the Witch.
This was done in order to prevent a bug where the arrow key movement locked itself when things were selected by the player.
- Guardians now position themselves based on the facing angle of the player. In other words, they are no longer blocking 90% of the screen when traveling west.
- Extended camera bounds so that it now follows the player all the way to the edge of the map.
- The intro is now skippable with ESC
- Following items are now added to your inventory, as they are all part of the same quest chain: Love Letter, Wedding Ring and Kitchen Knife.
- Adjusted the camera in the southwest.
- Spiced up the credits some more.
- The Awakening Fountain now shows which keys you have found.
- A sound now plays when a child has noticed you.
- Added missing dialogue to the Lost Souls.
- Made some changes to Greta’s dialogue.
- Made some changes to Jack of the Green’s dialogue.

v1.02.5 - 04 Jan 2017
ABILITY CHANGES
BLIND THE WICKED
- Increased cooldown from 5 seconds to 10 seconds.

FEATHER OF A TRAVELER
- Renamed to Feather of Efficiency.


IMPROVEMENTS
- Increased the follow distance between the player and the Guardian, as there were still instances where it covered the screen.
- Slightly increased movement speed for all Guardians.
- Lowered lumber cost for Chapter I, II and III, sold by Gilbert.
- Adjusted the camera for Lutwidge.
- Edited the text that displays when a child notices a player.
- Fixed a bug where upgrades purchased from the secret shop would not show.
- Fixed a bug where the sound warning the player that a child has noticed them would not play.
- Fixed a bug where the Ghost Key Radar would still ping the map, even though the Ghost Key had already been found.
- Polished the credits some more.

v1.03 - 22 Jan 2017

NEW FEATURES
- New PHASE: A new final phase of the game.
- New
resource: Logs & Stumps. These spawn near the Foundation Torches, and are destroyed by left-clicking on them repeatedly. They drop 10-15 lumber upon death.
- New
command: OVER HERE. Order your Guardian to move to your position.
- New
command: Double-click on your player character to quickly select your Guardian.
- New
Guardian: Elder Guardian. It does not attack, but rather puts its enemies to sleep. It can detect NPCs that wander around in the forest.
- New
Guardian: Ghost Guardian. A Guardian with interesting abilities. It can summon wards which will notify you on the Witch’s whereabouts, as well as teleport you both to a random Hiding Place.
- New
Guardian: Moon Guardian. A semi-tank with the ability to summon wolves, as well as buffing those around it.
- New
Nightmare: Black Wolves. Every time a key is found, the Witches send three Black Wolves to look for you.
- New
Nightmare: ???. Shows itself during the final phase.
- New
NPC: Curious Charles. A Black Wolf intrigued by your presence. He is the master of all Moon Guardians, and asks but one thing of you.
- New
NPC: Argos the Wicked Unseen. A playful Ghost Guardian, and shepherd of the Lost Souls of the dream. Like all unseen, he is uncovered by the fire of the Tiny Torch. Play with him, and he shall indeed help.
- New
NPCs: Child of a Withered Dandelion. Creators of the Two-Way Mirrors, these children will gladly chat and has the ability to set up teleports for you.
- New
building: Warm Bed. A building purchasable from the Foundation Torches. You can set any Warm Bed as your checkpoint, so that when you use Safe Space, you will instantly return.
- New
ability: Safe Space. Teleports you to the last Warm Bed you set as your checkpoint.
- New purchasable: Two-Way Mirror. Sold by the Children of a Withered Dandelion, these spawn a teleport which will take both you and your Guardian to the other side of the map.
- New purchasables: For a fee, the Detective Owl can now ping the exact location of the different NPCs.
- New
purchasable: For a fee, the Radar can now ping the location of all Wanderers.
- New
purchasable: Chapter IV – The Bewildered Bear. It is sold by Gilbert the Raggedy Lion.
- New
purchasable: Poem – The Unseen Singer of the Lost. It is sold by Gilbert the Raggedy Lion.


Several new
models, skins, icons and sounds. You can find them under CREDITS.

IMPROVEMENTS
- There are now Starting Fragments near every Foundation Torch.
- Changed Guardian commands from S, W, A to Q, W, E, R.
- Every time the Witch cries, her location is pinged on the minimap.
- The Second Witch is now killable. Like the original Witch, she will be revived after some time.
- The player child, the twisted children and several other units are now visible in the fog. This was an oversight and was intended from the beginning.
- Lowered the original Witch’s movement speed slightly.
- Lowered the original Witch’s acquisition range from 1500 to 1200.
- Changed the position of Gilbert the Raggedy Lion.
- Remade the skin for the original Witch. She now looks more like I had originally envisioned her.

v1.03.1 - 23 Jan 2017
ABILITY CHANGES
SAFE SPACE
- Increased casting time from 0 seconds to 4 seconds.
- Increased cooldown from 180 seconds to 210 seconds.


IMPROVEMENTS
- Fixed a bug that made all enemies targeted by the Lull ability permanently invulnerable.
- Fixed a bug where Ghost Key Radar and Safe Space were activated at the same time.
- Fixed a bug where encaged player were teleported during the final phase.
- Fixed a bug that prevented Elder Fragment and Moon Fragment from being destroyed by the Crack Fragment ability.

v1.03.2 - 24 Jan 2017
Camera improvement!

IMPROVEMENTS
- CAMERA - The camera now makes your Guardians transparent when they are positioned behind you, where they would otherwise obscure your vision.
It now also adapts to the size of your Guardian, increasing the camera distance the bigger they are.

- Removed some memory leaks related to points through conditions.
- Polished a lot of triggers related to the Witch.
- Fixed a bug where abilities such as invulnerable and ghost were still active during the final phase.
- Whenever you are using Call Guardian from a Foundation Torch, the location of your Guardian is now pinged on the map.

v1.03.3 - 26 Jan 2017
IMPROVEMENTS
- Removed the camera zoom out for Elder Guardians, as they're already rather small Guardians. However, they still become transparent.
- Removed a bug where certain fragments along with other items were still available during the final phase.
- Removed a bug where wrong text messages showed up during the final phase.
- Removed a bug where the Witches were still being revived during the final phase.

v1.04 - 17 July 2019
NEW CONTENT
- An ALTERNATE ENDING: The Guardian Ending. This will be discovered by the explorative players, who are willing interact with the souls of the Dream.
-
VISUAL IMPROVEMENTS: More grass, more tree variety, broader roads: the Dream is now more alive than ever.
- GUARDIAN ITEMS: A new way to upgrade your Guardian. Find the hidden vendors, and be amazed...
-
MORE GOLD: Employ Blundering Hoarders, who will gather gold over time for all players.
-
RESCUE FROM AFAR: Small critters are now willing to help you rescue all captured players in the southeast.
- SECRET QUESTS: New quests are available, one involving Wilhelm the Merchant and John Bauer the Bombastic.

NEW GUARDIANS

- WATER GUARDIAN: Capable of curses. Is found through a secret quest.
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BLOOD GUARDIAN: Capable of heavy damage output. Is found through a secret quest.

NEW NPCS

- BLUNDERING HOARDERS
- BOY MADE OF SNOW
- DREAMING VAGABOND
- SLEEPING BEAUTY
- THE MERRY GATHERING
- VIVIAN THE OPERA SINGER


NEW SOUNDS

- Frictional Games: Ambience 15
- From Software: Milfanito Song


IMPROVEMENTS
- COLORED TEXT: Text messages and item texts are now colored in different ways to convey important information to the player, and make them easier to read.

- CHANGED WANDERERS: Wanderers now have a different model.
- EASIER LUMBER FARMING: Reduced HP of Logs from 50 to 20, and HP of Stumps from 30 to 15.
- GOLD AND LUMBER TEXT: You no longer recieve text messages when you gather resources, it is now shown more descreetly.
- MORE LUMBER: Each bundle of lumber give 5 more lumber.
- ORANGE FABRIC: "Orange Fabric" is now displayed in the player's inventory.
- PIXIES: Reworked their blessing - it now fully heals the Guardian.
- REDUCED COOLDOWNS: Reduced cooldowns on some buildings and recharge time on items and upgrades.


BUG FIXES

- Corrected misspellings.
- Corrected trigger errors.
- Entering the final phase no longer crashes the game.
- "Rice Porridge" is no longer game breaking. It could previously be stacked and fill a player's inventory.
- The Witch no longer stands still if her target runs into a hiding place.





-Author's Note-
I released this map as a submission to the Mini-Map Contest #13, my entry being v1.0.
I grew quite attached to this project and wanted to continue working on it, which is why I've now uploaded v1.01 on the site.

As there are so many secret quests and npcs in A Terrible Nightmare, I've decided to protect the map and thus keep the mystery going. If you really wish to check out the map in the World Editor, you can find v1.0 here: Mini-Mapping Contest #13 - Ghastly Realm

I took a lot of inspiration from Scandinavian folklore, as well as some old childhood favorites of mine (Alice in Wonderland, Iron Giant, Neverending Story, etc). I really like the combination of horror and anthropomorphism.
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A Terrible Nightmare v1.04 (Map)

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Approved. A delightful, charming and atmospheric map. Awesome skins too, and the flashlight guy looks awesome and terrifying. If you want more reviews, try joining the Grand Review Exchange.
  1. deepstrasz

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    The camera has some problems at time especially when getting near map borders. The camera remains somewhat in place while the child goes out of the shot. It is restored when the kid is taken back out of the map borders.
    The player controlled unit might just not stop moving in a direction unless the key that leads the unit to move in that direction is pressed again. It might be because of selecting other units during locomotion.

    I have to play this more for proper feedback. It's quite interesting. However, in single player it's a bit hard especially when the witch overruns you (faster movement speed+2 hit kill). I'll have to test this in multiplayer.
     
  2. Ungoliath

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    Thanks for the feedback! :) I'm aware of all the things you pointed out.
    Regarding the camera, my guess is that the camera bounds do not go all the way to the edge. I'll try to fix it, or find some way around it.
    As for the movement thing, I'm also guessing it is because of selecting other units. This can be fixed by making the child stop every time a unit is selected, but that too can become quite frustrating. :/
    Regarding the Witch, there are some unlockable abilities that make you invulnerable/invisible for a short duration, allowing you to escape the Witch! I might however make one of these available from the start.

    Thanks for testing the map, man! :)
     
  3. deepstrasz

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    If it can be finished in one player, that might not be necessary (or you could at least do it for singleplayer only, maybe). I just probably have to get a hang of this.
    About the word(s) in the circle: I've wrote all bunch of random stuff in the chat box and nothing happened. Do I need the Owl Detective for that?

    Edit: does hiding in the blue lights help against the witch or only hides you from the other guardians?
     
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    All riddles (if you can call them that) are related to things in the map itself. So, for example, when Jack refers to the "Bishop" he's referring to the npc the Lonely Bishop!

    That is a really great idea! I could make it so that you can purchase hints from the Detective Owl if you're struggling with a riddle.

    The bushes hide you from all enemies, except for the Child Collector, the one with the flashlight!
     
  5. deepstrasz

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    Oh but he only said to go into the circle (of flowers I guess) and say a word or something. I went there and started writing in the chatbox. Nothing happened so I selected him and clicked the Talk ability again. He said the same thing about going into the circle. Is that a riddle?
    :D makes sense.
    Another question. Is the witch more likely to hang out in the southwest where the gold and many lumber stacks are?

    EDIT: skip intro?

    EDIT 2: the music shouldn't quite stop but loop (not really easy to do if it's wasn't created that way); I hear no violin song but directly the screams when the witch is close; the problem is that it's pretty much random; this time I didn't even had the chance to call a guardian apart from the one the Wanderer had offered.

    EDIT 3: for some reason when you go to the southeast (where the snow land is) the camera raises and you're seen from behind from afar.

    EDIT 4: it would be neat to select the guardian somehow other than when looking at him (=when it is in the camera screen). That would make controlling the guardian easier. You can't use CTRL+number because he's not owned by the player.
     
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  6. Ungoliath

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    Aaah, I see now! I'll make it more clear that he asks the riddles as you enter the circle, and repeats them as you re-enter.

    Working on it! :)

    This is the thing that I've struggled with most! It's not difficult to make it smooth, but the thing is, as soon as I edit this particular mp3 file, the quality suffers so much, and I don't really know why. This is a thing I'll experiment with for sure.

    The camera changes as you start climbing the mountain!

    No violin song playing is indeed strange. Had you encountered the Witch earlier? Was she still in the vicinity? I'll see what I can do, regarding the wanderer thing! :)
     
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  7. deepstrasz

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    Oh.
    No violin, just screams. I sometimes hear weird sounds: metallic, some sort of growls or winds IDK.

    I'm currently using my second guardian as my first was killed :D and am trying to upgrade him (earth; thanks to the stun it's easier to escape).
    Is the custom skinned Abomination (bear) actually giving a quest with that: "maybe the witch has my kid" stuff? The witch's place (to the southeast) is very annoying; lotta trees, very easy to get stuck; I was lucky I didn't meet her there.

    EDIT: guardians like the Earth one can just cover the screen when following :|

    EDIT2: weird for almost 20 mins now I haven't seen the witch and I've left her with 2k HP; is she stuck/removed or something? By the way does she regenerate? If she is killed, what happens? Can the lantern dude be killed?

    EDIT3: there needs to be a way to keep track of all the acquired items (Bishop's ring, letter, etc.). I'm not sure messages appear in the Chat like they do in the Log for singleplayer. A special place in the Quest Log or a secondary inventory might be needed.
     
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  8. Ungoliath

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    Man, thanks for all this feedback! I've made so many improvements in the last hour.

    Interesting. The Radar building can locate the Witch, what does it say? She does not regenerate, as it's one of the goals to take her down. :)

    Done!
     
  9. deepstrasz

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    Destroying buildings? Does that give you 50% of the resources back? What's the use of destroying them? Is there a limit of buildings per torch?
    Tells me, the witch has been seen in the north but doesn't ping. Next time I pressed right after the cooldown finished, it said she was seen in the southwest...

    EDIT: why do Lost Souls have the Select User ability? How do I know what Greta and Hans (the couple) are searching for as they don't say anything about it?

    EDIT2: at last she appeared and before that I've got the red ping on the map as when the game starts. And now I can't escape with my 3/3 upgraded guardian as she follows him and attacks him :|
     
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    This map reminds me something about "Alice in Wonderland" but with darker theme. You should change the default icon set of WC3 to something "dark and deep".
     
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    Killed her. But I think another one appeared as I've seen the red ping where she usually appears when the game starts... Have no guardian at the time and I'm having a hard time finding any stones. There's a NPC guardian but I didn't yet find the entity he wants me to free.

    EDIT: lucky me I've found the merchant and took the fireG.

    EDIT2: I get it. It's the ring. The owl says so.

    EDIT3: where do you upgrade the fireG? Not the whiteF, I guess. Maybe, the red?

    EDIT4: Holy Ghost! Now there's an invulnerable witch too! OK so I need the K for the CC.

    EDIT5: FINISHED!

    4.5/5.

    The thing is, you kind of have to know the map to play it properly. That's why it's best you play it in singleplayer first. Takes about 2hs to get the hang of it (exploring and stuff).

    "Problems":
    -you can't escape the witch unless you leave your guardian to die (she is faster than the guardian too and by the time the invisibility spell fades, she is still on your/his track). If you don't have a guardian, only luck like the slowing coin building or the blue flickering bushes can be your escape
    -guardian stones are scarce later in the game; I don't know how it works, maybe related to how many players are in the game?
    -you don't want two witches in the game and one of them being invulnerable

    Haven't played it in multi so can't tell how that flows but if everybody is on their own (except for when they're in the cages!?) it'll be kind of a horror show.
     
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    That means so much, thank you! Yeah, might do something with the icons in the future. :) When all mechanics are fully polished I will start focusing on UI and new content.

    MAN, you finished it?! That means a huge deal, thanks! :D You've provided loads of constructive criticism, didn't expect to get this much sorted out the first day! Will upload v1.02 tomorrow with some pretty huge changes. :)
     
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    About the ending. Would be nicer to fade to black or to white (you know, the light after dying or something) instead of just showing the victory message over the scenery while the cinematic mode is on.
     
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    I might just do that! I didn't want to skip the score screen, but now I just remembered that the dialog box and score screen are two separate things.
     
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    Hey @Ungoliath, I've just played this with a friend. The Owl Detective can be used by other kids (allies); it's a good thing because there aren't really that many resources on the map.
    Does the witch become stronger if more players are in the game?
    Gold can be harvested if the players spread, otherwise some will have less to none.
    I think I've gotten a message informing about the guardian being killed while in reality it was still somewhere far back (tried summoning another one and it didn't work and cracked a fragment trying to do everything to create a new guardian; later, I've found the previous one still alive :D; I've left the guardian fight the witch).

    When I pressed release, the game ended for my friend as well. Shouldn't everybody escape on their own? That would be better as not everybody should be able to in case the witch gets them on the way.

    Is the appearance of the second witch random? I know that little rascal looks at you first though (someone is watching you). The main witch wasn't killed before the second witch made her first appearance. Her second, was after the main witch died and we were trying to get to the fountain. Luck that the witch attacked the guardian instead of the children (she is invulnerable anyway).
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    EDIT: that update seems to have added a lot of easy ways out of danger.
     
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    That's awesome @deepstrasz! :)

    That's what I'm planning for a future update which will revolve around scaling the Witches and making them more unique!

    When the Witch "kill" you while your Guardian is still alive, it will basically go into a trance and become passive. If you, the owner, then return to the Guardian or call upon it through a Foundation Torch, it will wake from this trance.

    There should now be a text message when you die that says something like "Your Guardian now stands silent, waiting for its Child to return..."

    She shows up once two keys have been found and only moves once one of her two rascals has spotted you. The rascals are now visible in the fog, as I had previously forgotten to add a "extended line of sight".

    Maybe! It's all about testing. :) Most of these teleport mechanics have a high cost and are difficult to obtain until mid- or lategame. Who knows, I might tweak them in the future!
     
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    *SPOILERS*

    Hey there! I played this a bit ago finding many of the of the cool things about this map, but i was wondering if it was intended for the hostile wolves to become permanently invulnerable when put to sleep by the elder guardian. I believe the witch was also put permanently invulnerable as well and stopped moving when put to sleep *with multiple people in game* Unless I am supposed to kill the two rascals running around? I didn't notice before, but I had two keys, and just needed her last key, but could not finish it =(
     
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    Ah man, that sucks! :( The Lull ability is an edited Sleep ability, no special triggers involved. Did they (the wolves and the witch) eventually become hostile? Or were they just permanently asleep?

    EDIT: Found the problem! I had accidentally set the "stun duration" to 0 (when you're making this many spells you basically go into autopilot haha)
     
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    They were permanently stuck for the rest of the game sadly, so could not complete it, hehe. I think only other thing i noticed was the child permanently going in a direction if the arrow key was pushed too many times which I believe was already mentioned, and not TOO fond of that camera angle. Guardians can get in the way sometimes. Other than that, can't wait for the bug fixed version!

    I did have a chance to use the similar abilities, but check if the sleep on the bear and the child's ability do not act the same way.

    Although it was a bug before, it might be cool if there was a pacifist type guardian option, where the child did not have to kill anyone. Sort of idea from Undertales.
     
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