The Coming Night - Base Defence V 1.0

[Daffa]

The map is interesting and I like the idea of defending against slowly stronger enemies. There are some issues with gameplay experience for me. Most of these are personal, so feel free to take it with a grain of salt:

1. The extra hero abilities are not written in description (for my case, Ranger). It is really frustrating not knowing what you'll get, even at least a glimpse (like normal melee heroes description mentioning their abilities is sufficient).
2. The game feels extremely slow due to how slow resources are harvested. I mean, COME ON!
3. It doesn't help that tier upgrades (halls) are extremely expensive, rendering the gameplay feel like a heavy slog.
4. The waves feels quite static in the sense that they're not extremely varied, nor their abilities are interesting. At least the bosses can benefit from more interesting abilities.
5. Gold mine is bugged for Undead, I speculate the same for Night Elves.
6. I'd be honest the additional structure provided for the Human feels like a quite useless add-on. I thought I get some unique things like the Ensnare Dragonhawk with broken attack damage at the very least.
7. Why no Gyrocopters?
8. Siege Engine ... I wonder how useful this unit within this setting.
9. Undead gold mine are bugged. Their golds are not increased like human or orc mines. I do not have Night Elves on my run, so I cannot check that. I'd rather have the gold set to absurd values instead of triggering the increase.
10. Regarding the slow game, it might also be compounded with the delay between attacks, the reprieve part. Players do not have much incentive to go out and risk their armies outside of base perimeter.
11. Oh yeah, that reminds me, WHY THE LEVELLING EXTREMELY SLOW!? Even Arthas levels up faster in Symphony of Frost and Flame than this, and he needs 8 levels there.

I survived till Day 10 when I feel bored and already lost 2 undead allies due to the gold mine bug on Day 9.

EDIT:
I noticed an update Yesterday. I think I might've played the first release.

 

[ArcadeKid]

The extra hero abilities are not written in description (for my case, Ranger). It is really frustrating not knowing what you'll get, even at least a glimpse (like normal melee heroes description mentioning their abilities is sufficient).

This is a mistake and I will fix it asap I had no idea I missed that!

The game feels extremely slow due to how slow resources are harvested. I mean, COME ON!

Yeah fair enough, this is partly personal taste and partly an attempt to give more weight to the economy, but it might have to be shifted around a bit.

It doesn't help that tier upgrades (halls) are extremely expensive, rendering the gameplay feel like a heavy slog.

The intention here was to get the focus more on the combat and using the units at each tier, but it clearly feels more like an inconvenience lmao

The waves feels quite static in the sense that they're not extremely varied, nor their abilities are interesting. At least the bosses can benefit from more interesting abilities.

That was something I intended to spice up when I started this and forgot about, reminded!

I'd be honest the additional structure provided for the Human feels like a quite useless add-on. I thought I get some unique things like the Ensnare Dragonhawk with broken attack damage at the very least.

Haha fair enough, I was going for a "elves OR Human/Dwarves" tech split but I think maybe the extra building is too much and I should simply use the Barracks

Why no Gyrocopters?

I had plans. I hate Gyro's personally but if the first comment includes them I have no reason to keep them out lmao.

Siege Engine ... I wonder how useful this unit within this setting.

It was supposed to be switched to "Steam Tank" and show that it does normal damage, I'll do that.

Undead gold mine are bugged. Their golds are not increased like human or orc mines. I do not have Night Elves on my run, so I cannot check that. I'd rather have the gold set to absurd values instead of triggering the increase.

Yeah this is totally broken, I probably didn't mention Haunted Gold Mines in the conditions, thank you for pointing it out.

Regarding the slow game, it might also be compounded with the delay between attacks, the reprieve part. Players do not have much incentive to go out and risk their armies outside of base perimeter.

True, this is a fundamental flaw in the way I designed it, I've been brainstorming off and on about how to spice it up.

Oh yeah, that reminds me, WHY THE LEVELLING EXTREMELY SLOW!? Even Arthas levels up faster in Symphony of Frost and Flame than this, and he needs 8 levels there.

Haha fair, i wasn't sure if it would feel exciting to get a level or annoying to wait so long. Annoying it is, I'll shift it to be more exciting. Guess there isn't really any reason to keep people from the level max for super long. Strong heroes are fun to use.

I noticed an update Yesterday. I think I might've played the first release.

Maybe, maybe not, I've updated it several times and simply wanted to get it feeling somewhat playable and enjoyable, I will continue to do so with this information thank you.

 

[deepstrasz]

1. Footelf is the same as the Footman. Animal War Training upgrade is not a shared as there are two. Archer is already a unit of the night elf.
2. The Ranger can be summoned again and again. Same: Druid of Secrets.
3. Dawnhowl=Feral Spirit.
4. Enemy units are created and instead of being ordered when they should leave to attack, they are first instantly moved a bit down and then ordered. They also appear out of thin air.
5. Feels weird you're fighting usual creeps rather than some special Forgotten One related ones.
6. No other Tavern heroes.

Generally, very simple material, custom units and heroes being a mix of already existing ones than new stuff. I'd play Monolith over this one any day.
Approved, with caution, meaning hope it gets updated with more creative and fun things.

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