Terraining Contest #14 - Racial Settlements

xorkatoss · Mar 3, 2012

might join this contest for fun, are total noob terrainers allowed to join?

M0rbid · Mar 3, 2012

Everyone is.

xorkatoss · Mar 4, 2012

well here is my progress so far:

any suggestions?

Amargaard · Mar 4, 2012

@xorkatoss:
Well, I would make some river in the foreground, tint the grass to match the ground, add more doodads (more grass, rocks, mushrooms, plants, lily pads, cattails), make some visible background terrain, and finally add a matching fog

xorkatoss · Mar 4, 2012

Amargaard said:
@xorkatoss:
Well, I would make some river in the foreground, tint the grass to match the ground, add more doodads (more grass, rocks, mushrooms, plants, lily pads, cattails), make some visible background terrain, and finally add a matching fog

thnx for your help

btw this is the first time i enter a terraining contest and this is also my first attempt so that's the reason it's so bad xD

RiotZ · Mar 4, 2012

xorkatoss said:
well here is my progress so far:
View attachment 111664
any suggestions?

Shorter grass, lots of it, small enough where it looks realistic. Get rid of that tent it's for Barrens terrain sets and looks cheesy with Murlocs. Also, Murlocs wouldn't have walls, they would use their natural swampy environment as their advantageous home, if it were me I would have started this as a elevated chunk of land in a dense, foggy swamp with an encampment of Murlocs using a large tree as their home.

Stick to Sunken models.

Edit: I think I'm doing Humans, living in a port city by the sea bordering the ocean between Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms (Lordaeron and Azeroth).

stonneash · Mar 4, 2012

any suggestions?

use the utm, there u could find a beter wall,tent,watch tower and a rive,and search for HQ models of murlocs

xorkatoss · Mar 4, 2012

xRiotZx said:
Shorter grass, lots of it, small enough where it looks realistic. Get rid of that tent it's for Barrens terrain sets and looks cheesy with Murlocs. Also, Murlocs wouldn't have walls, they would use their natural swampy environment as their advantageous home, if it were me I would have started this as a elevated chunk of land in a dense, foggy swamp with an encampment of Murlocs using a large tree as their home.

Stick to Sunken models.

Edit: I think I'm doing Humans, living in a port city by the sea bordering the ocean between Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms (Lordaeron and Azeroth).

thnx for all the suggestions!! but im sort of trying to make this:

well im not trying to copy every detail of that, but im mostly basing it on that pic

stonneash said:
use the utm, there u could find a beter wall,tent,watch tower and a rive,and search for HQ models of murlocs

hmm ok, ill take a look at the utm

RiotZ · Mar 4, 2012

xorkatoss said:
thnx for all the suggestions!! but im sort of trying to make this:
View attachment 111684
well im not trying to copy every detail of that, but im mostly basing it on that pic

hmm ok, ill take a look at the utm

If I were mimicking that I would get a better tent,
there are better tents here on the hive, and I would definitely scrap the wall. And use WoW Murlocs if rules allow it.

stonneash · Mar 4, 2012

my forest is in progress,any suggestions are welcome and i think i should change the topic from jungle\forest trolls to something else

xorkatoss · Mar 4, 2012

xRiotZx said:
If I were mimicking that I would get a better tent,
there are better tents here on the hive, and I would definitely scrap the wall. And use WoW Murlocs if rules allow it.

hmm...im not sure about the WoW Murlocs...does the rules say that they are not allowed ONLY in maps? also i found some wow models a while ago but no wow murloc models...and i don't know how to extract them from WoW and make them usable in wc3(plus i don't even have WoW)

EDIT:
well i decided to remake the murloc village(not basing it on a pic this time)...here is a new version of it, i tried to add background mountains but i don't think it turned out well, in fact i find them really really bad but oh well it might just be me o.o

feedback is much appreciated!! :thumbs_up:

fladdermasken · Mar 4, 2012

Blafurgh, I wanted murlocs.

Well, I sentence you to exsanguination and death for plugging my concept pipeline. Something slow and painful, like taking a dozen slivers to both eye sockets.
...

>.>
<.<

xorkatoss said:
hmm...im not sure about the WoW Murlocs...does the rules say that they are not allowed ONLY in maps?

I think we've allowed ripped resources in terraining contests in the past. It's not like we publish the maps or anything, and it's not really that controversial anymore since you could run your hand through pretty much every ditch on the internet and come up with plenty. You should probably run this by M0rbid though.

xorkatoss said:
feedback is much appreciated!!

Great that you dug out a background, it was looking pretty boxed in and cramped. Know what I'd do about now? Focus on a lead motive. You've got an average little camp right there, cozy and cordial. So now you bring out the big guns and up your game by a decimal or two. Check out some of the best terrains we've got to offer and wring out something better.

That's the mentality you should go for.

Oh and some of the formal stuff, like fog, natural environments and lighting. The center one should help you with those mountains you're worried about.

stonneash · Mar 5, 2012

Originally Posted by xRiotZx View Post
If I were mimicking that I would get a better tent,
there are better tents here on the hive, and I would definitely scrap the wall. And use WoW Murlocs if rules allow it.
hmm...im not sure about the WoW Murlocs...does the rules say that they are not allowed ONLY in maps? also i found some wow models a while ago but no wow murloc models...and i don't know how to extract them from WoW and make them usable in wc3(plus i don't even have WoW)

EDIT:
well i decided to remake the murloc village(not basing it on a pic this time)...here is a new version of it, i tried to add background mountains but i don't think it turned out well, in fact i find them really really bad but oh well it might just be me o.o

well,this is way much better,but morlocs live next to sea shores and ocean
so u don't need to make background of mounts,just make a see using he water and the sunken ruins sand

edit____________________________
i took a deep look at ur picture and i can tell that u have something great, but there is a bug, get the fireFX from our model section and find some better towers\watch towers
and take a look at the UTM,the palms there and other trees are really good
just go under enviroment-->select ur tree u like
and place it

Amargaard · Mar 5, 2012

I recommend a mix of mountains and ocean in the background and a fog to hide the edge of the map

KayS · Mar 5, 2012

Thinking about it... Maybe I'm gonna make a castle, in the void or something like that.

xorkatoss · Mar 5, 2012

fladdermasken said:
Blafurgh, I wanted murlocs.

hmm...is it against the rules for somebody to choose the same race as smdy else?

I think we've allowed ripped resources in terraining contests in the past. It's not like we publish the maps or anything, and it's not really that controversial anymore since you could run your hand through pretty much every ditch on the internet and come up with plenty. You should probably run this by M0rbid though.

thnx for the help, ill ask M0rbid asap

Great that you dug out a background, it was looking pretty boxed in and cramped. Know what I'd do about now? Focus on a lead motive. You've got an average little camp right there, cozy and cordial. So now you bring out the big guns and up your game by a decimal or two. Check out some of the best terrains we've got to offer and wring out something better.

what are the big guns supposed to be? xD
also i have no idea how to make the camp bigger without starting it all over...

Oh and some of the formal stuff, like fog, natural environments and lighting. The center one should help you with those mountains you're worried about.

ill give a look at those thnx;p

st onneash;2110530 said:
i took a deep look at ur picture and i can tell that u have something great, but there is a bug, get the fireFX from our model section and find some better towers\watch towers
and take a look at the UTM,the palms there and other trees are really good
just go under enviroment-->select ur tree u like
and place it

well for some reason i prefer to make murlocs that live in a forest, not in an island...the problem is there aren't many murloc models for me to use and neither HQ ones so im not sure if ill keep this race...

[b[General Question:[/b]
Is it against the rules to change a race after picking one?

EDIT
I tried to improve it as much as i could, here is the result:

i know it can still be improved but i really have no idea what else to add/change...
guess ill just wait for a miracle to happen;D

M0rbid · Mar 5, 2012

to your general question: You can change as often as you want to, just make sure to post WiPs and clarify on what is your entry.

about the other question: I am fine with it, as long as you do not share the models here at hive.

fladdermasken · Mar 5, 2012

hmm...is it against the rules for somebody to choose the same race as smdy else?

Nope, just makes it less original. But I don't really care, I'm going to carry my murloc concept anyways.
I'll just include some quirks and a different atmosphere.

what are the big guns supposed to be? xD

Hell, I don't know. Shear the regulator stem off an air cylinder or something. It's a figure of speech, just butt it from average to interesting.

also i have no idea how to make the camp bigger without starting it all over...

If you want it bigger, you could just push more layers into the background and make it a murloc district.

xorkatoss · Mar 5, 2012

M0rbid said:
to your general question: You can change as often as you want to, just make sure to post WiPs and clarify on what is your entry.
about the other question: I am fine with it, as long as you do not share the models here at hive.

good to know these

fladdermasken said:
Nope, just makes it less original. But I don't really care, I'm going to carry my murloc concept anyways.

i see..

Hell, I don't know. Shear the regulator stem off an air cylinder or something. It's a figure of speech, just butt it from average to interesting.

lol

If you want it bigger, you could just push more layers into the background and make it a murloc district.

hmm ill try that thnx

stonneash · Mar 5, 2012

i see a nice improvment,et u didn't used the utm,u mixed the land with the sea
col for now

xorkatoss · Mar 5, 2012

stonneash said:
i see a nice improvment,et u didn't used the utm,u mixed the land with the sea
col for now

well i did search the utm but didn't find anything i could use...
also i don't want to use sunken ruins doodads, i want it to be a forest-like murloc village;p

kike · Mar 5, 2012

hi, I'm new

I just want to ask something about your murloc village, if murlocs are water lovers and live in a mix between earth and sea why there is a camp fire on their village??? D:
No one will take the gnolls?

Azurot · Mar 6, 2012

Well here's what I have so far, gentlemen.

Belgarath · Mar 6, 2012

Azurot said:
Well here's what I have so far, gentlemen.

sleek & sexy landscape, nice
now you just need a race :- )!

i'd be quite careful around proportions though since your walls are quite small compared to the trees and they don't seem to be incredibly large. that combined with the walls being a "large looking" model kind of makes for a bit of a wonky scaling already
but very good start

xorkatoss · Mar 6, 2012

kike said:
hi, I'm new
I just want to ask something about your murloc village, if murlocs are water lovers and live in a mix between earth and sea why there is a camp fire on their village??? D:

well obviously they started a fire so they can cook a human

isn't he visible?

No one will take the gnolls?

you could give them a try;D

Azurot said:
Well here's what I have so far, gentlemen.

wow, very good terrain!!

EDIT:
I just finished expanding my murloc village...probably my final entry unless i think of something else to add...

Murloc Village Remake 3current entry)

Murloc Village Remake 2before expanding the village)

well, ver 2 is just for comparing it with ver 3, feedback is always appreciated!! :thumbs_up:

EDIT 2:
hmm...i was wondering, how come besides me and Azurot nobody else showed their current progress and ask for feedback or smth?
maybe they already know what they are aiming for and w8 until the final days to submit their entries?

newbchu · Mar 7, 2012

Azurot said:
Well here's what I have so far, gentlemen.

Skyrim!

RiotZ · Mar 7, 2012

xorkatoss said:
well obviously they started a fire so they can cook a human isn't he visible?

you could give them a try;D

wow, very good terrain!!

EDIT:
I just finished expanding my murloc village...probably my final entry unless i think of something else to add...

Murloc Village Remake 3current entry)
View attachment 111746
Murloc Village Remake 2before expanding the village)
View attachment 111745
well, ver 2 is just for comparing it with ver 3, feedback is always appreciated!!

EDIT 2:
hmm...i was wondering, how come besides me and Azurot nobody else showed their current progress and ask for feedback or smth?
maybe they already know what they are aiming for and w8 until the final days to submit their entries?

I actually really like this... Good job.

xorkatoss · Mar 7, 2012

xRiotZx said:
I actually really like this... Good job.

thnx!!

eubz · Mar 8, 2012

xorkatoss, This is really a peaceful place but some kind of aggressive murlocks are inhabiting. The environment seems cold.

xorkatoss said:

TheWhiteWolf · Mar 8, 2012

i have a very good idea about something i could make. unfortunately, it will take me at least few hours only to start making it, and i am currently sick. so, if i post my idea (textually) here, will i have something like copyright over it? i mean, will i be able to complain to the judges if someone steals my idea?

fladdermasken · Mar 8, 2012

I seriously doubt people would just snatch your idea off the table when you're not watching. But no, you don't reserve any legal rights to it.

RiotZ · Mar 8, 2012

eubz said:
xorkatoss, This is really a peaceful place but some kind of aggressive murlocks are inhabiting. The environment seems cold.

I agree. Fog tint should be green, blue is best for cold environments.

xorkatoss · Mar 8, 2012

xRiotZx said:
I agree. Fog tint should be green, blue is best for cold environments.

well i mostly used blue fog tint bcz i wanted to make it look like it's night, but if you didn't notice it's raining, so that means it is a little cold;D (using common sense, there can't be hot weather and raining at the same time, so raining = cold)

eubz said:
xorkatoss, This is really a peaceful place but some kind of aggressive murlocks are inhabiting. The environment seems cold.

aggressive murlocs? where? o.o

fladdermasken · Mar 8, 2012

(using common sense, there can't be hot weather and raining at the same time)

Of course it can. Anything spring to mind? You know, this part might even be a hint.

Warm temperatures is partially what causes evaporation and condensation to begin with. The temperature might drop slightly, but it's mostly just a growth in humidity.
Hell, why do you think rain forests are situated near the equator?

Oziris · Mar 8, 2012

Here is my new entry. :3

xDeathKnightx · Mar 8, 2012

Wow, so many outstanding Entries.. just wish i still had the time i used to have, to take part in this event. Good luck to all you guys who are taking part

stonneash · Mar 8, 2012

Oziris said:
Here is my new entry. :3

what type is it??

xorkatoss · Mar 8, 2012

xDeathKnightx said:
Wow, so many outstanding Entries.. just wish i still had the time i used to have, to take part in this event. Good luck to all you guys who are taking part

by "so many entries" are you referring to the 3 entries? xD
too bad you don't have the time to participate in the contest;/

fladdermasken said:
Warm temperatures is partially what causes evaporation and condensation to begin with. The temperature might drop slightly, but it's mostly just a growth in humidity.
Hell, why do you think rain forests are situated near the equator?

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

eubz said:
xorkatoss, This is really a peaceful place but some kind of aggressive murlocks are inhabiting. The environment seems cold.

sry for late answer, i sort of missed you comment...
anyway, by using blue fog tint i tried to make it look like it's night...i really don't know what color to use=/

L2love · Mar 8, 2012

This is what I got so far.

RiotZ · Mar 8, 2012

L2love said:
This is what I got so far.

Reminds me so much of LOTR or Warhammer, best entry yet.

xorkatoss said:
well i mostly used blue fog tint bcz i wanted to make it look like it's night, but if you didn't notice it's raining, so that means it is a little cold;D (using common sense, there can't be hot weather and raining at the same time, so raining = cold)

aggressive murlocs? where? o.o

Excuse my language but here I go anyway, it rains in the rain forests all the time, that's why they're called rain forests for fuck's sake. xD

I still say tint should be green... It looks way too cold to be in the tropics.

Someone please give me a race to do, because humans are way too dull for me, quickly though, I'm running out of time.

stonneash · Mar 8, 2012

pretty cool,but i think changing the cam position will be better

TheWhiteWolf · Mar 9, 2012

I am making elves, already started. And yes, ELVES, not NIGHT or BLOOD or HIGH elves, but simple old-style elven race.
And one more thing: Please do not steal my idea

xRiotZx:
Someone please give me a race to do, because humans are way too dull for me, quickly though, I'm running out of time.

You can make humans, and it doesn't have to be very dull. Just forget about WC3 concept of humans and make something out of your own imagination. Imagine a castle on a cliff, with some village in front of it, guards on the walls, maybe some catapults or ballistas, proud knights riding in front of the castle... well, you get the point.

fladdermasken · Mar 9, 2012

Looking good Oziris and L2.

xRiotZx said:
Someone please give me a race to do, because humans are way too dull for me, quickly though, I'm running out of time.

Tuskarr.

MAKE
ME
PROUD

TheWhiteWolf · Mar 9, 2012

This is what I've got so far. That's mostly it about the platforms. Now trees, rocks.... Any suggestions are welcome

Bugz · Mar 9, 2012

-Sub-

TheWhiteWolf · Mar 9, 2012

okay, now I am getting it to look like something

again, every opinion or suggestion is welcome

eubz · Mar 9, 2012

@MaTiJa97
Nice one, ~~but what race is settling here?~~
EDIT:
O, I see. I haven't read your posts atop.

RiotZ · Mar 9, 2012

fladdermasken said:
Looking good Oziris and L2.

Tuskarr.

MAKE
ME
PROUD

Hell, yeah, nigga.

Oziris · Mar 9, 2012

It's Deepholm.

stonneash · Mar 9, 2012

@matija97
make water in the circles

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