All New Races V.2.0 + AI

[Fleck]

I took a quick glance and I like what I see! The map have custom techtrees, mechanics and abilities but it seems the map state is still alpha/beta.

Bugs:
The Drunkard Ale item have the opposite effect instead of healing it reduces health.
I don't see rearmed gyrocopter in the workshop like for the ubertank in the factory.
Combat Engineer place turret ability uses the battle priest training requirement instead of combat engineer requirement.
Tauren Brave shieldbearer ability and research tooltips are not consistent.
There is a building in Imp build menu with greenicon that does nothing.
The Obelisk have no model.
The Queen of Pain soundset is the lich, not really fitting.
The Dreadlord's ability Hunter of Shadows at lvl 1 grants permanent invisibility in my opinion is imbalanced.
Sacrifical Pit still have the ability to turn acolyte into shades.
Sacrifical Pit doesn't have the deathcoil ability as mentioned in the building tooltip.
Ritual Pit doesn't have deathcoil, doom and inferno abilities as mentioned in the building tooltip.
Fiend Incarceration, Demon Gate have the wrong research upgrade requirements.
No victory conditions.

Would be nice if the AI also uses the custom races too!
You should also add screenshots and a better map description.

 

[Daffa]

There is a building in Imp build menu with greenicon that does nothing.

Apparently, it has some sort of aura that causes armor reduction. Not sure if it affect enemies, but I know it affect the Imp.

Everything else is spot on and I agree with the listed issues.

 

[Luthfandino]

I took a quick glance and I like what I see! The map have custom techtrees, mechanics and abilities but it seems the map state is still alpha/beta.

Bugs:
The Drunkard Ale item have the opposite effect instead of healing it reduces health.
I don't see rearmed gyrocopter in the workshop like for the ubertank in the factory.
Combat Engineer place turret ability uses the battle priest training requirement instead of combat engineer requirement.
Tauren Brave shieldbearer ability and research tooltips are not consistent.
There is a building in Imp build menu with greenicon that does nothing.
The Obelisk have no model.
The Queen of Pain soundset is the lich, not really fitting.
The Dreadlord's ability Hunter of Shadows at lvl 1 grants permanent invisibility in my opinion is imbalanced.
Sacrifical Pit still have the ability to turn acolyte into shades.
Sacrifical Pit doesn't have the deathcoil ability as mentioned in the building tooltip.
Ritual Pit doesn't have deathcoil, doom and inferno abilities as mentioned in the building tooltip.
Fiend Incarceration, Demon Gate have the wrong research upgrade requirements.
No victory conditions.

Would be nice if the AI also uses the custom races too!
You should also add screenshots and a better map description.

Thank you for your respond, I will fix it soon

 

[Luthfandino]

Apparently, it has some sort of aura that causes armor reduction. Not sure if it affect enemies, but I know it affect the Imp.

Everything else is spot on and I agree with the listed issues.

Thanks, noted for further fix

 

[HuanJuan]

I cannot level up the custom heroes on this map above level 5 somehow. By the way, they are good concepts.

 

[AnyNameYouWish]

I cannot level up the custom heroes on this map above level 5 somehow. By the way, they are good concepts.

Heroes in the Frozen Throne can't level up beyond 5 without fighting enemy units. I think this can be changed in gameplay constants though by going to 'Hero XP- creep reduction table' and deleting the '0' entry. I read that on a thread I found by googling but I haven't tested it yet

 

[deepstrasz]

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This helps you with the models, skins and icons from Hiveworkshop: Resources in use by Plains of Snow - All New Races
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Awaiting Update.

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[DeathKing24712]

Hello! I was playing as the demons a little while earlier, and I couldn't help but notice that my game started to lag a lot. At first I assumed it was cause of the Sacrificial Pits and stuff since there were floating skulls and maybe it took a lot of memory to load in those effects so I tested it by reloading the map and then building like...uhh 12 of em and upgrading them to max level, it started to lag as I suspected.
But after destroying them In my original save it still continued to lag.
Can you tell me why this happens? Are the effects like those dark spots tomes leave behind when picked up?
I love the new races so far but this lag is really killing my buzz.

 

[deepstrasz]

No updates in a long time. Not even a reply.

Lacking.

 

[Luthfandino]

Sorry for the long time reply, currently busy with schedules, trying to update and fixing but slowly

 

[Luthfandino]

No updates in a long time. Not even a reply.

Lacking.

Question,
Should i delete this post and create a new post?
Or should I just edit this post?

 

[Fleck]

Question,
Should i delete this post and create a new post?
Or should I just edit this post?

Nah, just update the map thread/post.

 

[Luthfandino]

Nah, just update the map thread/post.

Okaay then, thanks
Post updated

 

[deepstrasz]

Please look more closely as many names seem not to be on the credits list: Resources in use by All New Races V.2.0 + AI

I wouldn't call them races but factions or rather subfactions.

1. Fury Swipes is present on the furbolg unit and on the furbolg hero. Would be nice not to repeat abilities. Same with Venomous Spores.
2. Earthshock is just Thunderclap.
3. Anciet Staff is overpowered. Basically having a fountain of life around you all the time.
4. Enchanted has the same icon as Cenarius Blood.
5. Ancient of Strength's upgrade mentions Chimaeras but this faction has none but the Emerald Wyrm.
6. Living Woodwork's icon is also on an upgrade the Cenarion Circle has.

Overall, a nice implementation which could use more custom stuff here and there instead of renamed/reskinned abilities.

Approved.

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GENERAL MAPPING
A Beginner's Guide to Map Making
The Ultimate Beginners Terrain Tutorial
Advanced Terraining Tutorial
A Guideline to Terraining and the Hive's Terraining Section
Various Terraining Tips!
Basic Mapping Video Tutorial
WE Map Editor for Newbies!
The Path Of Proper Map Making - What to do and what should be avoided

MELEE MAPPING
How to create Melee Maps
General - Melee Maps like the Professionals
Competitive Melee Map
Melee mapping - The reasons behind common aspects of competitive 1v1 maps
Melee Do's and Dont's

PATHING
Pathing - Everything about it
[Terraining] Alternative Pathing Technique

LEAKS
Triggers - Memory Leaks and Custom Scripts

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[Luthfandino]

Please look more closely as many names seem not to be on the credits list: Resources in use by All New Races V.2.0 + AI

I wouldn't call them races but factions or rather subfactions.

1. Fury Swipes is present on the furbolg unit and on the furbolg hero. Would be nice not to repeat abilities. Same with Venomous Spores.
2. Earthshock is just Thunderclap.
3. Anciet Staff is overpowered. Basically having a fountain of life around you all the time.
4. Enchanted has the same icon as Cenarius Blood.
5. Ancient of Strength's upgrade mentions Chimaeras but this faction has none but the Emerald Wyrm.
6. Living Woodwork's icon is also on an upgrade the Cenarion Circle has.

Thank you for the immediate feedback

Will be updating the Credit list

Well, I just never thought it through about the naming. But I aim to differentiate the standard race and split it into their own faction based on their race, For example, the Human Race will be split into Humans (Silver Hand), Dwarves, High Elves / Blood Elves (future update). Dwarven Riflemen are replaced with Human Lieutenants with crossbows as a range unit. High Elves / Blood Elves Priests are replaced with Human Clerics.

1. I thought It would be good for the furbolgs to have a unique trait for them and that would be their improved attack speed.
Venomous Spores I want to stack the ability dps for the Hero and Dryad units.
2. Hehe I really need to expand my creativity, but I just can't think about what ability will be good with the Furbolg Hero model animation and can synchronize with his other abilities.
3. I haven't had a chance to see the effect in-game, but I set the regeneration rate to 4hp/s, not from the base of 1%hp/s. I will have to check it.
4. Im out of idea for the icon hehe
5. Whoops missed it
6. Will look for new icons then

Have you tried the other factions, will be looking forward to your suggestions and feedback on them

 

[MogulKahn]

Gonna check it, and come back

 

[Nobel Massina Arben]

Thank you for the immediate feedback

Will be updating the Credit list

Well, I just never thought it through about the naming. But I aim to differentiate the standard race and split it into their own faction based on their race, For example, the Human Race will be split into Humans (Silver Hand), Dwarves, High Elves / Blood Elves (future update). Dwarven Riflemen are replaced with Human Lieutenants with crossbows as a range unit. High Elves / Blood Elves Priests are replaced with Human Clerics.

1. I thought It would be good for the furbolgs to have a unique trait for them and that would be their improved attack speed.
Venomous Spores I want to stack the ability dps for the Hero and Dryad units.
2. Hehe I really need to expand my creativity, but I just can't think about what ability will be good with the Furbolg Hero model animation and can synchronize with his other abilities.
3. I haven't had a chance to see the effect in-game, but I set the regeneration rate to 4hp/s, not from the base of 1%hp/s. I will have to check it.
4. Im out of idea for the icon hehe
5. Whoops missed it
6. Will look for new icons then

Have you tried the other factions, will be looking forward to your suggestions and feedback on them

Will you also add Old Gods and Zandalari Trolls later?

 

[Luthfandino]

Will you also add Old Gods and Zandalari Trolls later?

I'm currently focusing on the main factions for each race, but I also thought about adding neutral races such as the faceless ones (old gods) but not Zandalari Trolls as there will be a Troll sub-faction from the Orc race which is the Darkspear Trolls.

 

[Pandora_X]

the sentinel hero has female demon hunter model but the ranged attack of a ranger

 

[Luthfandino]

the sentinel hero has female demon hunter model but the ranged attack of a ranger

Are you sure?
In my game, it appears to be fine
Can you upload a screenshot?

 

[Pandora_X]

Are you sure?
In my game, it appears to be fine
Can you upload a screenshot?

Spoiler: image

 

[Luthfandino]

Spoiler: image

View attachment 447236

Thats odd, my game works perfectly fine
Or is it because i use older version of the game, which is v1.26

Spoiler

 

[Pandora_X]

Thats odd, my game works perfectly fine
Or is it because i use older version of the game, which is v1.26

Spoiler

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ugh...where can i get the classic ver? cos i used reforged latest patch

 

[stein123]

Nice map!