Zephyr Contest #14 - Poll

[Kyrbi0]

Would people still be asking/complaining if we just started another one?

 

[Loner-Magixxar]

If we start a new one while the fate of this one is unknown, there won't be any passion for some people; at least for me.
By the was that Olympic idea is so cool. But the idea of pulling that off in this site is too good to be true, tbh.

 

[Chaosy]

Would people still be asking/complaining if we just started another one?

Perhaps if people had something else to do to distract them from this they would not complain.

Even so, that would just put two contests unjudged so I don't see the point.

 

[Kyrbi0]

If we start a new one while the fate of this one is unknown, there won't be any passion for some people; at least for me.
By the was that Olympic idea is so cool. But the idea of pulling that off in this site is too good to be true, tbh.

Ah dannae about that. I'm (mentally) done with this, and am fine moving on. It's over; something new is a new & interesting thing to think about! : )

"Too good to be true?" Lol. Well, this site has surprised me in the past. (Actually, we ran an Olympics of a different kind several years ago).

Perhaps if people had something else to do to distract them from this they would not complain.

Yeah, like a Contest. ^_^

Even so, that would just put two contests unjudged so I don't see the point.

... Sure, I suppose it's technically true; a Contest that just started is "un-Judged". But... seriously?

I'd really have to ask what you feel the point of a Contest is in general. Because "the point" could be "to have fun" or "test of skill" or "whatever", and all of those things can happen with a new Contest, regardless of whether the last one is done.

 

[Deleted member 219079]

I personally would like next Zephyr. I have big exams tomorrow (covers entire high school biology, should start reading soon), but after that next big ones are in Spring. So I could really be dedicated.

 

[Chaosy]

... Sure, I suppose it's technically true; a Contest that just started is "un-Judged". But... seriously

I meant that after it finishes, it will be just like this one.
If they cannot find new judges for this one, why would another one be different?

I'd really have to ask what you feel the point of a Contest is in general. Because "the point" could be "to have fun" or "test of skill" or "whatever", and all of those things can happen with a new Contest, regardless of whether the last one is done.

I want the feedback on my submission since I tried a fair lot of new things.

 

[KILLCIDE]

If they cannot find new judges for this one, why would another one be different?

That's not the case with this contest. We have three judges, we are just waiting for them to finish.

 

[Chaosy]

Does not really change my point.

 

[KILLCIDE]

Having judges that do what they can on their free time vs not having judges at all are very different.

 

[Murlocologist]

Having judges that do what they can on their free time vs not having judges at all are very different.

Sounds promising.

 

[Emm-A-]

I think that Olympic Idea is great

Or lets go for spell battle cinemtaic contests as back in the days

 

[Loner-Magixxar]

Anyways, whatever contest is held in the near future I won't be a part of it (like anyone cares ), cuz I'm working on a 2-player adventure map. It should be finished in almost 4 - 5 months. That's partially why I don't mind putting of the next contest . And that's why I got a little upset about the poll results, because I put the map's development on pause for a month to make this spell and it seemed to be in vain.

 

[Flux]

Any news? Is there progress?

 

[Empirean]

Id love to know the results on this one before we start a new contest. If we start a new contest and end up like this then the mext contest will end up like this then we will create a new contest. Thats gonna pile up. Forgotten contests.

 

[Chaosy]

Pretty much.
And without the judgement I won't know what to do differently, making it a waste from ghat PoV

 

[Emm-A-]

Is Anitarf active anymore? I know you guys said it makes no sense, but I mean, if there will not be any progress at all, maybe we have to get a new judge?

Judges, Please tell us where you are at? Something like "visuals done, coding at spell 6 of 14" or something like this ..

For me, i do understand if it takes long to judge this, but I really would like to know if there is any progress at all or at least will be in the near future, or if this was forgotten...

 

[Kazeon]

It's wise to drop from being a judge instead of keeping people to wait forever without any news. We have had a contest with only one judge before. So if at least there's one judge finished with his review, and if every one is really in hurry to see the result, maybe you better go on with that single judge. I see no point in rushing anything here tho, neither seeing anything being in vain.
Anyway, there are a lot of entries, it's very normal that they take months to review.

 

[Murlocologist]

Asking same questions again and again is not going to be out of any help. If month ago mind set was 'we will wait as much as it takes' or 'nobody really cares for results, we'll be happy to wait' than waiting a couple more months shouldn't be so problematic. Also asking for updates is gonna do no good either, because there is obviously none since last one (2 months ago?). And just how big of a nonsense would it be to switch judge now after it has been decided there wont be any judge replacing?

 

[Chaosy]

Yeah.
How foolish of us to hope.

Also, being slow as fuck is one thing.
But atleast updating progress is not too much to ask for?

 

[Murlocologist]

Yeah.
How foolish of us to hope.

Also, being slow as fuck is one thing.
But atleast updating progress is not too much to ask for?

Well you still can hope results will be posted before this thread reaches 20th page.

And if there was any real update (like if the AFK judge did show any sign of caring to post something about this contest) I believe you would be informed by now.

 

[Kyrbi0]

It's understandable that when the Judges are some otherworldly, unknowable entity, animosity is easy to rile up.

I know Anitarf personally (quote-unquote), and I have faith that he is either A) working on his part of Judging diligently, or B) legitimately concerned with RL matters that take precedence.

Then again, his user title has been "Procrastination Incarnate" for as long as I can remember... ; D

 

[Deleted member 219079]

Very passionate you guys, meanwhile I lost my entry in Zephyr #11 as I was too lazy to come up with a name. (And no, I still don't give proper names to my maps.)

I'd be alarmed if the reviews didn't come at the end of December. Usually around Christmas people have time to chill.

Edit: Way to learn from mistakes...

 

[Murlocologist]

I'd be alarmed if the reviews didn't come at the end of December. Usually around Christmas people have time to chill.

Yeah, cos wc3 spells will surely be the first thing on their mind during Christmas Eve.

 

[Deleted member 219079]

Not Christmas Eve, around Christmas. It's when you have holidays, and holidays mean plenty of free time.

Especially the time from Christmas Day to New Year's Eve. Oh, that's the best.

And believe it or not, it's like, 80 days to it

 

[Chaosy]

Well you still can hope results will be posted before this thread reaches 20th page.

And if there was any real update (like if the AFK judge did show any sign of caring to post something about this contest) I believe you would be informed by now.

Fair enough.

Perhaps. Which is all the more reason to do something about it.

 

[Empirean]

Just a suggestion, can hive make a page for judges where they can just fill out for each entry so that itll be visible to the public on how the judging process is going? Idk just a suggestion.

 

[Almia]

I like how the thread is still going. RIP Zephyr 14, you will be missed

 

[xxdingo93xx]

Yeah it's quite ridiculous how this goes. 4 months ago, I never imagined that I will get the results of my bachelor thesis BEFORE this challange.
I agree with the suggestions other contestants have made. We should look for another judge and maybe reduce the amount of judges that we have. That would lower the chance of having someone as a judge who all of a sudden has so much reallife stuff going on that he can't even judge 14 spells by only 1 of 3 criteria.

 

[IcemanBo]

Even I don't agree with certain mentioned points, and also not with starting a new contest meanwhile, I'm also not very happy how long it takes for us to solve it.
But believe me, I also know possibilities to do, but something like "getting new judges" is easier said than done--especially when there is already some running arrangement with current judges.
And for example with lacking responses, the whole process will be slowed down also, things that could not have been known before.

What I try to do now is to make the best out of it, and to put more preventive arrangements for the future, to ensure better communication and faster judgement.

Chances are high we get results on a Sunday (or for you, public, maybe Monday). I sadly can't really say more to the current state. We need to be patient.

 

[Flux]

Chances are high we get results on a Sunday (or for you, public, maybe Monday). I sadly can't really say more to the current state. We need to be patient.

What kind of results? And it is already Sunday, you mean next week?

 

[IcemanBo]

Results of the judgement, so final results, too. I don't know which Sunday, but due to last conversations, progress can come like only on weekend, and so I guess on a Sunday the chances are highest to get finished.

 

[Empirean]

Results yet? Its sunday today.

 

[Chaosy]

He meant a sunday, not this sunday.
Apparently the judge only got spare time to review on weekends, so it's a logical assumption to expect it on the sunday

 

[Meatmuffin]

Didn't think I'd be celebrating my birthday before the results DDDD

 

[Deleted member 219079]

Happy birthday!

 

[Emm-A-]

Happy Birthday.

 

[Meatmuffin]

Ayyyyy thanks you guys

 

[Chaosy]

Soon we can wish this thread happy birthday too!

 

[Kyrbi0]

Alright, let's move on with our lives & let the Judges finish in peace.

 

[Loner-Magixxar]

I think "6 months" is enough peace for them

 

[Chaosy]

You think?
I think two weeks is enough.

 

[Murlocologist]

It's funny how high standard rules from some other sections of forum don't translate to parts regarding judges and responsibility they took when accepting to be judge.

 

[Chaosy]

Ikr?

 

[Deleted member 219079]

Guys, you could show your interest towards judging Zephyr Contest #15 and show how real men judge!

 

[Chaosy]

I don't have the skill to be a judge. Though I would probably have the activity.
I also don't like responsibility, so regardless: nope!

 

[Murlocologist]

inb4 zephyr 15 finishes before this one

 

[Chaosy]

@Murlocologist

 

[Deleted member 219079]

I don't have the skill to be a judge. Though I would probably have the activity.
I also don't like responsibility, so regardless: nope!

You don't have to be the judge of whether you qualify or not. As a "résumé", form a collection from the best of your reviews you've done at the spells forums.

See here.

 

[Murlocologist]

Yeah, and you don't even have to be active user according to that link.

 

[Chaosy]

Maybe because that much should be obvious, or so I thought.
You don't sign up for something you can't attend to that's just bad manners.
Is "moral ethics" the right words?

And yes, coming 10 hours late to the party is also quite rude. Especially if the party depends on you for one reason or another.