The Last Great King

[deepstrasz]

Do you have permission from @Kofi_Banan to edit and upload the map? Who is/are the Drunks?
What is so different from the original? Medieval:TotalWarX

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[The Redman]

Hello! First of all, thank you so much for the review.

Now, answering your questions.

1. I did not contact kofi_banan, so I do not have his permission
2. We are "The Drunks", a group of friends: Johann, Longanizza, Lucky and me.
3. What is so different from the original? The reason is this: did you try the original game? The basic idea is great, but it seemed like a totally primitive game, full of problems and what we did was adjust and perfect the mechanics and the style of play. As a result, the map maintains the unique essence of Kofi, but with much more attractive and competitive gameplay and visuals. Without forgetting the new features implemented by our team, such as the hero system, rewards and victory/defeat conditions, etc.

Kofi_banan has been absent for 10 years, but I am sure he will like our work.

 

[deepstrasz]

1. I did not contact kofi_banan, so I do not have his permission

Kofi_banan has been absent for 10 years, but I am sure he will like our work.

Write him about it please. Then, if he ever returns he can ask the map to be taken down or congratulate your effort.

 

[The Redman]

Write him about it please. Then, if he ever returns he can ask the map to be taken down or congratulate your effort.

I already wrote to him, but what if he never connects again? What do you recommend me? Just wait for Kofi's response?
Thank you!

 

[deepstrasz]

I already wrote to him, but what if he never connects again? What do you recommend me? Just wait for Kofi's response?
Thank you!

Alright, add that (screenshot) to the map thread description and write/generate a credits list and proper description as mentioned before, please.

 

[deepstrasz]

1. The main issue, which is game related is troops stuttering/not following their orders immediately but having long latency when you have more than 50 or so units under the same player.
2. The loading screen is black. Not sure if intended.
3. Many of the custom icons are green on game pause. They should have properly set DISBTNs for the grayed out/disabled version. If they don't, they can be made with: Button Manager v1.8.2 ; learn a bit about icons: Complete Icon Tutorial - All About Icons
4. Terrain is kind of worse than in the original, still flat and one tiled and too colourful, in many places not making sense or colours not matching.
5. Some units have no descriptions, others broken. Generally, unit descriptions are shallow, some even being one liners. I suggest some tooltip hints:Tooltip Tutorial and Creating Good Descriptions
6. Mehmed II has an item-ability something to buy 500 gold by spending 500 gold. How does that make sense? His Command Aura/Warsong Battle Drums icon ability has no description.
7. Heroes could make use of glow to be better seen since they are small and can easily get lost within myriads of troops: How to add Hero Glow without Modeling
8. Vangarian Guardsmen and Helberdiers have the same icon.
9. Weak Charge says it gives weak attack bonus. How much though?
10. Abilities like Long Weapon, which are passive, should look passive, not active. Such icons can be made to look so with the Button Manager linked above.
11. Armoured Helberdiers and Herberdiers look the same and have a minor difference between them. Units should generally be unique for a good, not monotonous gameplay. The armoured ones could simply be an upgrade of the normal ones. Little difference between Skirmishers and Trezbidons or even Eastern Archers.
12. Armoured Helberdier and Skirmisher's name/title text is bugged. Probably, other units have this as well. Many if not most units suffer from this, pretty much multiple soft copies of each other.
13. Trezbidon Archer's ability has its tooltip missing.
14. Mehmed II's model=Eastern Archer's, Saracen Infantry.

Much to polish, sorry. The game is pretty much the same as kofi_banan's. Whatever improvements there might be, they are not too visible unless going to the deepest detail.
Don't want to be rude but you even privately asked when would this map be approved, and in such condition. For a fan care/enhancement of a previous map, such issues as mentioned above should not have even been.

Awaiting Update.

 

[The Redman]

Our only fear is eliminating the essence of Kofi (a simple, dynamic, and fun game that I have not seen in another game of this style). That's what we like about this map. That's why it still looks a lot alike. Precisely the idea is that they have the same core.
Thank you very much for the criticism, it doesn't bother us, on the contrary, it contributes a lot. My friends and I are going to try to do the best we can.

 

[deepstrasz]

OKish update.
There's still a lot of the mentioned, same icon units, same unit roles (stronger copies of each other). Trezbidon's melee-range switch ability has no tooltip/description. There's also some few green icons around. One of Mehmed's abilities (War Drums) still doesn't have a description. He still looks like a Janissary. Probably other things.

Cautiously approving this due to it being the only version updated for now.

 

[LuckyMonkey]

When archers die, their bodies remain standing for quite some time; it’s a bit confusing but it works to scare off the enemy.

 

[LuckyMonkey]

This is a true remake; there are a few minor details, but compared to the original map, it's quite advanced.

 

[The Redman]

When archers die, their bodies remain standing for quite some time; it’s a bit confusing but it works to scare off the enemy.

Archers bug fixed!

 

[Nihilism_Is_Death]

I think cannons should get a nerf, they seem a bit op being able to mow groups of units with ease once you reach a certain number

 

[LuckyMonkey]

This map makes people become violent, there's no place to feel at peace anymore. All that’s left for us is to sharpen our swords while waiting for the horde of wretches.

 

[CapAd]

@The Redman have you tried assigning two slots to each player, to reduce unit lag by 50%?
The way I did it in my map was to create an array of players and assign x+12 slot as the second slot for the player, where x is the player number. Then, every time a non-structure unit is spawned or trained, randomize the new owner for the unit and change its color (it is possible to change the minimap unit color too).
You can optionally check the current amount of units for each slot and assign to the lowest one, instead of randomizing. But that is prone to error, as you need to check unit deaths and other disappearances.
You also need to give full unit control in the ally settings, between the two slots. This way it is possible to select and manage all units like they're your own.

 

[The Redman]

@The Redman have you tried assigning two slots to each player, to reduce unit lag by 50%?
The way I did it in my map was to create an array of players and assign x+12 slot as the second slot for the player, where x is the player number. Then, every time a non-structure unit is spawned or trained, randomize the new owner for the unit and change its color (it is possible to change the minimap unit color too).
You can optionally check the current amount of units for each slot and assign to the lowest one, instead of randomizing. But that is prone to error, as you need to check unit deaths and other disappearances.
You also need to give full unit control in the ally settings, between the two slots. This way it is possible to select and manage all units like they're your own.

Yes i have a lag problem sometimes. Thank you man! ill try it very soon