Modeling Contest #13 - Buildings

Mr. Bob · Mar 27, 2009

Avator said:
I'm not entirely sure, but I believe I heared 3Ds Max 5 is free. It's commonly used I think, so if it really is free, I guess you would do good to use that. There are tutorials here that involve 3Ds Max 5, but none are specificly for 3Ds Max 2009, since it's a very new version, which (like Mr. Bob explained) is very expensive, so it's very limited in use for the people on the Hive.

5 is not free. It is not sold. What you are reffering to, is the illegal version. XD

Avator · Mar 27, 2009

Oh, in that case: Never mind what I said :gg:

I just wonder where I heared it was free. Or it was just my imagination going wild xD

Mr. Bob · Mar 27, 2009

Avator said:
Oh, in that case: Never mind what I said
I just wonder where I heared it was free. Or it was just my imagination going wild xD

Well, in a sense, I guess it is free... lol

Kyrbi0 · Mar 27, 2009

3dsMax 5 is the ideal Wc3 Modelling program, because Blizzard released the "Art Tools" for it, which provides perfect documentation and .3ds -> .mdx conversion and all the base-line tools to make perfect Blizzard SFX and particles and ribbons and stuff.

However, it's too old, and as Bob says, is no longer sold. Illegal versions can be found, but that's against site rules to discuss, so bleh. I don't believe in that stuff anyway.
If it wasn't, I'd already have it by now. Seriously, it's (supposed to be) that good.

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Wow, amazing WIPs everyone. Loving the High Elven altar, Elenai. Also the Naga-thing, ike_ike.

However, I just have one question:
What in the world is it? Everyone looks at it and says "wow, ingenious" or "creative, really cool". It look like a Murloc/Mur'gul in a cage. Alright, makes sense since the Naga enslaved the Murloc/Mur'gul (hence the worker (Slave) and cannon fodder (Reaver).

But how can it Work? Or gather Gold? Or harvest Lumber? Or provide Food? Does it move? Are you supposed to build it next to a tree or a mine and it harvests resources? How can it "Work" (building and repairing, I assume) from inside a stationary cage??

I feel like the only one on the outside of an inside joke. :< Nevertheless, it looks like it will be a great, useful model.

*cough* Jungle Troll Altar of Blood, anyone? *cough*

CombatTheWombat · Mar 27, 2009

Still no Idea how to UV map my model. Any help would be much appreciated.

Devine · Mar 28, 2009

CombatTheWombat said:
Still no Idea how to UV map my model. Any help would be much appreciated.

I never read the second part of the tutorial.
Which was quite important ... So I never knew how to uv wrap ...
Vertex Modifier Tutorial: Night Elf Lamp Post

ike_ike · Mar 28, 2009

Kyrbi0 said:
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What in the world is it? Everyone looks at it and says "wow, ingenious" or "creative, really cool". It look like a Murloc/Mur'gul in a cage. Alright, makes sense since the Naga enslaved the Murloc/Mur'gul (hence the worker (Slave) and cannon fodder (Reaver).
But how can it Work? Or gather Gold? Or harvest Lumber? Or provide Food? Does it move? Are you supposed to build it next to a tree or a mine and it harvests resources? How can it "Work" (building and repairing, I assume) from inside a stationary cage??
*cough* Jungle Troll Altar of Blood, anyone? *cough*

It's the Murloc equivalent of a Supply Depot. o wait, starcraft. Um. It's the food providing structure for the Murloc race i.e. the Murguls are caged up like ... livestock to be eaten etc. Alternatively, you can upgrade them to Enslaved Lumberers or Miners, who provide a steady income of wood/gold

So basically, it's not meant for repairing or building, it's just a static structure. With a nifty animated fellow inside :3

Pyramidhe@d · Mar 28, 2009

you should have a fat murgul as food source ^_^
a murgul bacon. yum

just finished the mesh and most of the anim.
the model has 3.4 k polys (-_-*)...

viiva · Mar 28, 2009

Pff 3ds max is a hard program, but i managed to make something anyways

It's an air landing/launching platform

For orcs or goblins or someone

Now i wonder how i can skin it in photoshop or something? because the materials are not very warcraftish ^^

skrab · Mar 28, 2009

You still have much to learn about 3d max...

Avator · Mar 28, 2009

To me it looks like a catapult mixed up with a diving board :S
Try making some shapes that don't look basic. Edit the basic shapes to create a complete new shape.

Xatoga · Mar 28, 2009

Here's a WIP of a town hall building that I'm basing sort of off Utgarde Keep. I'll be using it in my Vrykul project if I ever get around to working more on that.

Hawkwing · Mar 28, 2009

Xatoga said:
Here's a WIP of a town hall building that I'm basing sort of off Utgarde Keep. I'll be using it in my Vrykul project if I ever get around to working more on that.

Nice!

Linaze · Mar 28, 2009

Looking nice, Xatoga. Good to see you doing something serious this time.

Xatoga · Mar 28, 2009

Linaze said:
Looking nice, Xatoga. Good to see you doing something serious this time.

Well that's due to the fact this is actually a good theme. With 'maek sum boobs' it really was just... blegh.

I think I've finished the mesh, here's my rough idea on how the tiers will work.

MistAssass · Mar 28, 2009

ok ... i see everyone is starting on the action so i should to ... here's a quick screenie of my tower

CombatTheWombat · Mar 28, 2009

Ugh, I was afraid I might have to use oinkerwinkles for a UV mapper. That is just a bitch.

Pyritie · Mar 28, 2009

CombatTheWombat said:
Ugh, I was afraid I might have to use oinkerwinkles for a UV mapper. That is just a bitch.

If you can get it in .ms3d you could try lithunwrap.

Avator · Mar 28, 2009

Both Xatoga and MistAssass: You've got nice models :wink:

For MistAssass however, you probably need to be careful with the detail of your model. It's currently quite high poly, so you'll probably have to reduce that at some point.

CombatTheWombat · Mar 28, 2009

I can get it into that easy, but lithunwrap is even harder. Ugh, I animated it and realized I fucked up so I have to re-animate. But even though the animations were messed up they still should have played when I used guessts thing to export the model. I followed Donut's tutorial and used the comments and everything but it didn't export any of the animations.

Xatoga · Mar 29, 2009

Lithunwrap is actually really nice IMO once you understand how it works. I remember the first times I used it having no clue though, so just find a tutorial on it and it should be okay. Dunno about your animating issues. What program did you use?

CombatTheWombat · Mar 29, 2009

I used milkshape and followed Donut's tut for animating and exporting in it with guessts exporter, didn't work ><

Kyrbi0 · Mar 29, 2009

Wow, looking good, fellas. Special mention goes to Xatoga; I don't even have a penchant for Vrykul and I'm liking the Town Hall.

Can't think of anything else (coulda sworn I had something to say...).

xXMephistoXx · Mar 29, 2009

Mistassass, that model looks suspiciously like a Spore-model..? :ned:

Pyramidhe@d · Mar 29, 2009

you can export from SPore now? arghh. and i just uninstalled it few month ago

Avator · Mar 29, 2009

I knew I recognised that modeling style! It really is just like the models in Spore. The smoothing gives it away. I'm not saying it is from Spore, but it does look very much like it.

xXMephistoXx · Mar 29, 2009

It looks very much like it. Although it might just be very inspired. But that might explain the high polycount, too.

Mechanical Man · Mar 29, 2009

That model is easy to make thus is not from spore.

MistAssass · Mar 29, 2009

lol !!! i never played spore ... if you insist i do not wanna get angry so i'll make another one ...

xXMephistoXx · Mar 29, 2009

But could somebody answer my question: Which is the most effective order to animate in..?

Pyramidhe@d · Mar 29, 2009

MistAssass said:
lol !!! i never played spore ... if you insist i do not wanna get angry so i'll make another one ...

lol. i am not insisting. just keep on doing what you are doing ^_^

CombatTheWombat · Mar 30, 2009

Is milkshape what most people use to animate? And if so, could someone link me to a good tutorial because the one I followed the animations ended up not working.

Mr. Bob · Mar 30, 2009

CombatTheWombat said:
Is milkshape what most people use to animate? And if so, could someone link me to a good tutorial because the one I followed the animations ended up not working.

Define "most people".

Thrikodius · Mar 30, 2009

A little update on the Shrine. Everyone who thought it was a demonic shrine can think again. I still have some stuff to do on the mesh and then I'll attempt the worst part: animating.

s4nji · Mar 30, 2009

Onoz, I have just started the model now!

I am tooooo late! Too much Exams... :cry:

Pyramidhe@d · Mar 30, 2009

screw exams. who have time for exams these days. just model

Burning_Dragoon5 · Mar 30, 2009

Made my mind. It'll be a goblin building. A Chemical factory. But the thing is:

Goblin + Chemical = Not safety at ALL !!

He he, that'll be funny as Hell!

I made the whole rough concept at work. I'll post a screeny of the current work tonight.

I'll think about letting it be a n-tier building.

s4nji · Mar 30, 2009

CombatTheWombat said:
Is milkshape what most people use to animate? And if so, could someone link me to a good tutorial because the one I followed the animations ended up not working.

CombatTheWombat, I can explain it for you, but I'm just too lazy now... :hohum:

WIP below XD
I still don't know the name that fits to it... :con:

Avator · Mar 30, 2009

@CombatTheWombat: I prefer animating in 3Ds Max. First because I don't know how to animate in MilkShape and second: Animating in 3Ds Max is simple, but effective.

I hope to be able to make decent textures for my building in time, so no WIP yet.

Mr. Bob · Mar 30, 2009

I really wish people would stop geo-merging...

Devine · Mar 30, 2009

Mr. Bob said:
I really wish people would stop geo-merging...

yeah ... what happened to extruding anyways? T_T

Burning_Dragoon5 · Mar 30, 2009

Here's a early WIP. Still have to work on the mesh of course.

Kyrbi0 · Mar 30, 2009

Yay! Not enough Goblin buildings, especially on the less-used concepts of Alchemy or Greed. <3

Thrikodius · Mar 31, 2009

Mr. Bob said:
I really wish people would stop geo-merging...

What's that? Like adding meshes from models into another model?

Pyramidhe@d · Mar 31, 2009

geomerging = fun

s4nji · Mar 31, 2009

New WIP.
Looks Rly bad though :bored:

Now i will animate it...

--EDIT--
I wanna ask, I've made the meshes, but no anims, but when I tested in game, It is Very2 Ruined, Can someone tell me why?

Just_Spectating · Mar 31, 2009

i wonder if callahan would join o.o

Mr. Bob · Mar 31, 2009

Thrikodius said:
What's that? Like adding meshes from models into another model?

yes. Cheep modeling in my opinion. A good modeler would make his own meshes.

Pyramidhe@d said:
geomerging = fun

geomerging = cheep

Anyway, my building is almost done!

YouCantSeeMe · Mar 31, 2009

ok, let's give it a try

Pyramidhe@d · Mar 31, 2009

@Burning_Dragoon5. cool. is that a factory? i like the pincer arm thingy

@s4nji: i could test to see what is wrong if you post your model

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