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WARCRAFT III: REFORGED PATCH NOTES

Discussion in 'Latest Updates and News' started by Mythic, Jan 28, 2020.

  1. knight26

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    I asked for help. Tell me there's a way which I have overlooked, to get me my old game back, in legal channels. If you know such a way please do share.

    That's the bug. Warcraft 3 is bugged, with 30Gb of extra data. It's a gamebreaking bug for me. How do we fix this? Apparently you don't know. So just say wait for official statement.

    Literally, reading everything. All day. Just go read the first, the newest page. I didn't spot a single comment such as you said. Honestly, your will to defend these actions at this point are more concerning, than the mistake Blizzard made. You're basically letting them get away with it.


    How can you be so calm? I wish I had your capacity, honestly this has gotten to me so much, I had no idea it initially would. I realize now how much I cared for this game, and how bad they made the whole experience.
     
  2. Shido

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    I get it :D that some reviews just hop in the hate bandwagon, that why its so low its so good in the same time.
    Is Metacritic gotta lower than 1.0, Time will answer my question soon.
     
  3. DrakPanda

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    apologies im late to the party what was the question *panda grabs pen and paper to write down the question*
     
  4. deepstrasz

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    There's loads of stuff to do in life much more important than a lousily updated game.
    For the time being wait and see.
    Excuse me, where?
     
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    Welcome back to Shido's Who Not Want to be Purged *wwtbam theme*
    Is W3: Reforged (should be renamed as Deforged :() gotta end up lower than 1.0 in Metacritic (by user rating)
    Is it:

    A. Yes, Blizzard has failed us.

    B. No, Metacritic will purge the user review instead.

    C. (well, panda me will write your own answer)

    D. What the bamboo are you reading this, write your own answer !.

    E. Get outta here.
     
  6. DrakPanda

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    you aksed me to fix something for you, as in to change something with in the game as if i was in control to do so

    1 not a bug, 2 unlikely to get an official statement since this is reforged

    now this is troll

    but hey will bite, what specificly causes your game to break with the extra 30gb of data? are you unable to launch the game? is your computer made like a standard machine was back in 2002? is your hard drive not big enough to hold the data?


    A: yes they did lets hope theres patches i dont expect one till this coming tuesday
    B: i wish, i dont think metacritic care enough these days
    C: *panda is confused by this statement*
    D: i respect you enough to read your whole response to me
    E: outta where?
     
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  7. deepstrasz

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    @DrakPanda

    Please use the green Edit button at the bottom of your posts and add text there instead of writing one post after another of yours unless it's an important update.
    Site Rules
     
  8. knight26

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    Listen Panda, I'm sorry if I lashed out on you, you seem like a kind person. You need to understand the hate is towards Blizz and I'll try to explain why, from my point of view:
    - Blizzard, much like Bethesda is obviously doing this only for cash-grab, with no care or attention to their playerbase. War3 is what you'd call a niche of a game, which only a small number of people will play, to begin with. And it's exactly these people that Blizz has let down.
    - I've been asking for a remake for warcraft since 2008 onwards, that's a lot of years. I've written in almost every possible known forum, channel, signed every petition and there were quite a few, back in the day.
    - They could've gone in many different ways to how they handle the remake. This is, quite frankly the worst possible outcome.

    Now, to write down the moral / unethical issues:
    -If I own a car, and a company vows to renew my car, if I pay them the same amount I payed to buy the car initially, I'd expect to get a newer, better car in return. What they did is, they took our old car, and gave us a car which is missing windows (shadows are behind a paywall, i.e you need to own reforged to turn shadows ON), the steering is a lackluster from our previous car (there's serious performance issues, I've been watching wtii and Grubby doing their playthroughs, oh god, the stutter.. the bugs.. it's just, unbearable for a new game), and to make it worse, if I want to have my old car back, I need to carry an extra ton of useless weight (which will fill my SSD with data which I will never want to use since at this point Reforged is pretty much a money grab).
    - Even bigger than that, is the issue that, this type of change came without a warning! the audacity! I simply needed to log into the game as per usual, click on YES on update, without knowing that I'd have to download extra unneeded data. I don't even have blizzard launcher installed, I mean it was a complete shock to me.
    - There are missing features for which some players like myself specifically loved this game. I've played all the custom made campaigns, some of them several times. I was looking forward to that mostly, more than anything else.
    - Everything you create from now on, is legally owned by Blizzard. That means, everything. The modder/map maker won't be credited with NOTHING at all, if thier map is a success. New custom maps like Battle Royale, Lumber TD (some of the new best ones) could and possibly will be effectively owned by blizzard as money grab, and PROBABLY be pay to play like the starcraft II (dead) custom scene.
     
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  9. DrakPanda

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    blizzard will never be as bad as bethesda, there are blizzard employees on the forum looking directly at us for information

    we the community have been this warcraft 3's running blood for years, i promise this is much much larger than niche, with reforge will will be even stronger than before, more new people will come
    let blizzard give us some patches i wouldnt expect anything more than a weekly baises clans are alrdy slotted to be in the game its moved to your friends list, but greyed out, they are working on it, we just dont have it at launch, give it time its only week one

    Now, to write down the moral / ethical issues:
    if you need any kind of help with in reforged feel free to come to me ill be more than happy to help as much as i can in this time of transistion
     
  10. Power107

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    btw do you guys know EA is remastering two Command and Conquer games? Imagine if they turn out to be worse than this Warcraft 3: Refunded/Deforged.
    UPDATE:
    REFORGED ON METACRITIC DOWN TO 1.1
     
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    They're code monkeys, no suits. So 0 decision making power from the hired Hivers, that is a fact.

    Another fact was the disaster of 1.31 at launch, that could be the perfect indication of how the ones calling the shots, weren't on the same channel than us.
     
  12. Strydhaizer

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    To be honest I will still be very happy with a CNC remaster even if it is shit. The 1990s CNCs are unplayable in current gen computers, for some reason it is incompatible with resolutions higher than 1024x768 / 800x600 (especially in widescreen monitors) and is broken in Windows 10 OS, take CNC Tiberian Sun for example, you can test it yourself (it is free now).
     
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  13. MasterHaosis

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    @deepstrasz have you buy game yet?

    Hey, I did not try to justify myself! I just said that I saw others doing it, meaning I presumed that those are scrambled words. If they used dots that means those are scrambled of course. I just said I never tested myself. I never typed word for sake of testing it, I do not know if dots or stars would appear in place of word or whatever.

    Oh please.
    What the hell do you know about hiveworskhop and staff? You are registered in 2018, two years ago.
    I am from 2007, I have seen lot of stuff here for ages. There are people even more older here than me, more ancient. From 2004, or before. From wc3sear if you know what is it. Oh right, your facebook/instagram/twiter generations are so knowing!
    You can call me monkey, bullshit, whatever you want! But ask anyone of veterans here. Vast majority of them will tell you that I never ever had any problems or nobody had problems with me in map section! There were only complaint on me at first day of my work and thats it, I still remember it.
    As chat moderator I got fine with over 90% of people, except group before ,,Zero Tolerance" (go search yourself, or ask deepstarasz what is this since you are new). Since you mentioned me as ex moderator. BUT HEY! I never banned man because of one swear! I am not Blizzard's moderator. We are much better.
    SO, lets see now... under watch of your generation Blizzard did this. Facebook recently espionaged people! Google bullied employees worldwide, alot of corporations created shitstorms at their maximum while you had only to watch! In my time, we would handle them differently.
    You do not believe me? Okay, you have those applications on iphone/whatever you are using these days. Go google about Generals 2, and what we did to EA. They tried similarly like Blizzard now. Except they did failed.

    And lastly here we go. I broke Blizzard's CODE OF CONDUCT! I wrote F.UCK instead of FUCK. I am guilty. I should burn in eternal flames of hell!
    But lets forget about me on moment.... lets see how many CODES OF CONDUCT/LAWS/RULES Blizzard broke> False Advertising, deceiving, silence for almost one year, moving release date, patching ,,aggressively", giving incomplete patch as official release, annoying tons and tons of people worldwide (they rebel as we speak)...
    Oh yes forums! Tell me, their community manager.... 4 posts day before release! yes that how they care about their CUSTOMERS!
    But OK, I am problem. And people like me who got banned too, as according to youtube there are plenty. So everybody is quilty except corporation. But modern unwritten rules they can never be guilty of anything.
    And one more thing. In case that you still think that I was searching for problems in forums, let me inform you THAT I WAS FORCED TO USE FORUMS! Yes, I have multiple tickets which I can prove that they several times sent me to forums! I was speaking with customers service because I AM CUSTOMER! Here, in Hive I am user. There I am customer. I do not care about them. I wanted to know about GAME I PURCHASED! I am not going to play them ,,moderators/code of conduct" game, I want to know about game, to collect informations, bug fixes and all of that.
    Here in Hiveworkshop nobody owe me anything, they can remove me righ now if they wish! There I paid. I am customer. And this I consider as vast majority of people around internet hoax, treason, stealing etc.. etc.. chose one. Or I prefer ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES from greedy corporation. And I will fight it trust me on this! Alongside with those people. Again, I did not ask anything of this.
    Removing someone for this shitty excuse is nothing but removing voice whose you disagreeing with.

    Oh yea! And what do you do regarding it? Thats right nothing!
    Do you know how many people are who agree with me/I agree with them vice versa? Many.
    Just now while I type this I got PM from one of webmasters ,,Bloody hell! This is really bizarre! Blizzard, as reference of a good developer, is gone for me." If you do not believe me I will screenshot it with whole site. I also wrote on facebook, I joined people in youtube. You know, spreading ,,good word"... So yeah, I got many people thinking similar as me. And unlike blizzard fanboys, we do something! People create channels, sites, spreads, twits, collect many more to speak what Blizzard did in hope to accomplish some stuff against Blizzard of course. This time is not matter on who agrees, but who is in action. I am. I must admit that this night was heavy for me. Too much posting around.
     
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    This is a really big disaster they did. I rather play the classic for now till blizzard fix the game, bring back single custom maps and custom campaign in campaign mode, and remove the stupid policy they just post after the game release.
     
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    I have "funny" story:
    I was playing with friend warcraft 3 for years but he is learing to program now, so he do not have times for games lately...
    But he was aware about reforge because it is long time coming so we were chatting on steam aaand
    I told him I bought reforged.
    He told me he can not buy it because it would ruin his study plan.
    I told told him it would not, it is bad.
    He told me to stop doing irony and we kinda got argument to point:
    I AM NOT JOKING THERE IS NOT EVEN CUSTOM CAMPAIGN BUTTON:
    and he responded
    STOP TROLLING ME

    EDIT:
    [​IMG]
     
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    The thing YOU did wrong was give Blizzard an easy excuse to kick you off their forum. All that other stuff is smokescreen bullcrap trying to sidestep the fact that you made a mistake you would've banned yourself from the forum for if the shoe were on the other foot.
     
  17. MasterHaosis

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    I know how it looks like. Honestly, believe me, this is not revenge ranting as it may sound.
    Why would I do this? Lets see facts:
    They kicked me from forums, while I was done anyway. I cannot play Reforged graphics most likely until I update this crap.
    So, what I lose in forums? Nothing!
    Also, I am nobody, just single man. This aint about me. You can believe me or not, but it is true. Its about how corporation treat game and its customers and I AM JUST ONE OF THEM.
    Again, I cannot defeat anyone alone. Its not that I am strong, but that they are weak. What they did is wrong, and thanks to them and their own behavior I managed to back off some people from buying reforged:
    I posted this n command and conquer forum where I am also for years and made tons of assets there. People know Wc3, like it, they have subdirectory about it. But they are not experts, they do not follow it. And now they do not know what to think because they saw shitstorm yesterday. And of course they know that I am valuable member at Hive, ex moderator, paypal donor, so my word counts. I spoke with webmaster and he said he is done with it. And you can guess what I wrote there in private messages? I even wrote public thread. And my word counts. But its not words just. Those are backed with Blizzard's nice behavior. People were in the middle. I just pushed them little against buying game. You know what they fund as main offense? They are also map making community and they cannot take that intelectual property of World Editor thing. I did not even spoke about that.
    Now on facebook. I do not have many friends playing Reforged there, just few. I made profile post there and got several ,,We support you guys" ,,That is typical greedy corporation" and such... I can post and translate this as well... So, I was successful kinda there. Also, many real life friends asked me about reforged too. I was subject of fun actually ,,You filled Blizzard's pocket as they are government"...
    So overall, I did not lose anything, except maybe some of time tonight, but honestly, I feel good that my mission works actually. Silly man like me managed to back off over 10 people today from Reforged! (I did not count exactly, but I do not consider youtube and Hive, so number is greater) And I just started.

    Let me tell you something. One of examples from real life of my fighting against criminal. Man opened market/grocery store nearby, about 5 years ago. He employed several girls, did not ,,confirmed/accepted/checked (I do not know English word for that, but he did not write them to government as his employees so he had no to pay any taxes)". So girls worked on ,,black". I used to wander around and investigate it. He claimed that he did not have enough money to confirm them and pay taxes for them. he also paid them less for their work. Which is illegal of course. Shortly later, he opened ANOTHER store near center of city. So he has no money for taxes and employess but has money for another store?!!! I told ,,From this moment on, you are business dead! I will destroy you!" So it happened. I took evidences I found about him and report him not to police or inspection (because criminal like him obviosly have connections there), but I reported him to one journalist specialized for those frauds. Then he made investigations, reported him, they raided him and closed his stores. he faced charges then. Thanks to me of course. And journalist told me that they found him wrong papers as well, many of his grocieries he was selling are also on black! But read it again what I wrote! Its not that I am powerful to take him down and that I am dangerous or something! he avoided taxes, he paid less his workers, he earned money illegaly to open ANOTHER store, it was him selling products on black! If it was not me that moment someone else would do it as I am not only one in city!
    Those girls were someone's sisters, daughters! its never about me.
    Similar here, I believe what they did is wrong. What they did to me was just cherry at cake. I did not Refunded when many people told me to do! I believed until yesterday at Blizzard. What what is enough is enough
     
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    dont be an ass and assume things, basing age on when some one joined a community thats smart, its not like hive has been around for a very long time as a download repository or anything

    how long have you been on the internet and with in the community of blizzard to not know about their profanity filters since u want to boast of being here since 2007 like it means anything worth to you getting a temp ban

    CoC? none they wrote thier own
    laws? find one they broke
    rules? whos rules?
    false adveretising? take it up with the BBB, if you really care
    silence for over one year? just shut up, people waited 11 years for sc2
    patching aggressively? how do you know they havent? we dont exactly have a list of whats been fixed
    giving an incomplete patch? like this doesnt ever happen?

    you get to play the game like every one else who agreed to follow terms and conditions, and code of conduct when they made a battle.net account

    ya every one who is crying fowl over one reason or another, the impatient, dont wanna wait for patch, the world is ending, toss in the flamers, and the trolls
    all very unimportant people

    im not even going to ask who your refering to via webmasters sending you a PM

    with what razorclaw said above me, ima call your entire 2nd paragraph starting with
    more smokescreen






    seperate topic
    just letting you know which you may alrdy given you told a story that alrdy happened

    custom campaigns along with many other things like clans we not launched with the launch, given the clans button is in your friends tab grayed out and says something about "getting worked on" its safe to assume that missing features will be coming in time, i assume the clan system will be a little more fancy than just a straight port, also theres a little plus button by your portrait on the main menu im assuming this will be to add friends to a party in order to que for games together and join custom matches similar to how sc2 is

    any ways just wanted to mention this in case you are in the pile of people who think we arent ever getting it
     
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    I told you. I am not interested in their forums! I joined forums once I bought game. yes, I am here since 2007 (2005,2006 browsing, reading and downloading forums), but I am first time at Blizzard's forums since december.

    Oh come on! Where have you been all this year? Sleeping? You have been trolling now. 4 hours of videos, release date at 31. december and all other craps they advertized and denied lately. Silence - they did not talk to people about almost anything since blizzcon for almost year. Nothing important! People did not know if reforged will be out even. Their lead designer left in september or orctober. Where have you been all time?
    And I am not going to argue with you about false advertising. Some people planned to sue them. Believe what you wish! Like I said you aint do nothing. i did already ,I managed to back off many people from Reforged already.
    11 years for sc2? I bought reforged, I do not care about star craft. If you are stupid wait another 11 years I do not care. FANBOY! Go play SC2! Ahahaha!


    Its not about ,,crying" or whatever you call it.
    See, if you badmouth me here its nothing. We can call it crying. Maybe. But if you badmouth me on facebook, youtube and other relevant sites especially in front of people whose dislike me or are ,,in the middle" especially if they need to buy my product. Then it is something!
    Read my comment before yours, you posted just 2 minutes after me, so you skipped it. I was replying to razorclaw

    Oh yeah! Forgive me your highness! I totally forgot that you are the one deciding who is important and who not! I see big line of people in front of you waiting you to sign their shirts, hats and even underpants! You are the most important person, I see your glow shinning across planet! :cgrin:

    Read previous comment. I was explaining to him. But I will post links, screenshots if needed. Despite what you say about me, my word still counts. I do not lie.
     
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    this is very common for all of blizzards games when a release date is not planned, sc2 wow diablo3, asking me if ive been sleeping, you been under a rock for the past 10 years? it was not pushed back it was 12/31/19 because it did not have a planned date yet
    if you argue against this point here about the 12/31/19 release date, your a moron

    your just being an ass and a troll, with this comment, how were you ever staff? just utter shame to this site
    you have no concept of how blizzard does things, your probly never have or will

    ya theres no way i was responding to your comment and then saw your reply to razorclaw and then added a bit more to my reply then posted, not possible at all

    please. stop. with. 12. year. old. comments.

    none is explained there, where this webmaster is from or who he is, all you state is reply from a webmaster

    no idea what your refering to about your product, also your social media, unimportant