They have to upload them from the editor the Blizzard for them to be selectable in custom maps. This has its own series of limitations not present with Warcraft III maps.
Yee, sorry I'm late: Warcraft III - Patch 1.29.2 (PTR)
Except that Warcraft 3 isnt Starcraft 2 and wasnt made with widescreen in mind. Ingame doesnt suffer from any changes but glue screens for all menus, campaigns, ways menu ui is animated with all the chains and gears, it will either end up leaving middle of the screen empty and keep all stuff othe sides(i wonder how would that Bnet Gate work then....) And making them work on these models which is specificly deisgned to work at certain point of view and certain field of view, with lots of tricks used all around to make it look much bigger than it is. It's impossible to make them work porperly without heavily editing these models, most extreme example would be RoC's Human campaign glue, but all others also have things that are not meant to be seen thht would be uncovered by forcing actual 16:9 with increased FOV. Easiest and best solution for both blizzard and these people who dont want black bars is to add a toggle option to stretch the menues to 16:9 as it was with simple stretched 4:3 while having normal 16:9 ingame. Simple easy and solves the issues since these people always played on stretched 4:3 before anyway. Others who want proper proportions can just stick to 4:3 menues and that's it.....Reworks of all kinds are trumendous effort, far more than addint extra bezels on ingame UI.
Well if I were to nitpick, I would say that the FMVs and the 3D campaign screens were. But because in the end only 4:3 aspect ratios were supported, the 3D campaign screens have always been pan and scan versions of what they imho were always intended to be, when the game was still being developed.
@Trakya: You probably hate the cinematics of the game, then?
And here you are wrong, because there are people like me who want to preserve the proportions, i hated stretched 4:3 and i never played on it. 'Option' pleases EVERYONE - your idea is forcing people like me to suffer with stretched 4:3 when i preffer current setup in 1.29 with 16:9 ingame and 4:3 menues, everything looks as it should. And again it's incredibly easy to do in comparison to grand rework of how menues operate.
Well it works with TFT's Arthas's glue....Human RoC glue literally ends pixels beyond the edge of the screen showing loads of one sided textures, meshes and other ugly stuff you are not meant to see. Same goes to pretty much all other gluescreen EXCEPT TFT Arthas one, and maybe belven one. All of them have artifacts, holes in models, skies dont fill in ...entiriety of the "sky" there is no details or vegetation....almost no decorations beyond inteded frames....So it's not the case for every glue, it also depends on what camera animation was used. RoC human campaign is vertical descending camera so they dont have the sides sicne you wont see them.Well if I were to nitpick, I would say that the FMVs and the 3D campaign screens were. But because in the end only 4:3 aspect ratios were supported, the 3D campaign screens have always been pan and scan versions of what they imho were always intended to be, when the game was still being developed.
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@Trakya: You probably hate the cinematics of the game, then.
This was the best I could tweak back then, when the widescreen fix by @ENAleksey did not exist yet.
Don't replace them with anything, just let it be stretched like it was before, easier to read text and to see icons overall
I want black bars to be kept alongside streteched 4:3 for you so you dont get 'triggered by black bars'
Well you sacrifice some of the stuff visible above it's not too perfect solution but it looks ok, just that banners get cut off
You can submit better values to tweak the MDL files in this thread. You may even submit values suitable for aspect ratios other than 16:9. Please bear in mind that the tools I used were semi-adequate for that task, and that I was learning from scratch the hard way all along. Based on how inexperienced I was when I did it, I would modestly say that it is a decent PoC.
I don't think he was talking about the normal host bots, rather about the AUTO host bots that fill most of the lobby, first it started on TFT and ruined it, 4 years ago started to ruin ROC. I wish blizzard could do something about it and ban all those auto host bots so we could have a clearer lobby.
One of few things i agree with you xD
You got unlucky, probably it was crossrealm from other server like you were playing on US West and you got onto European bot or vice versa, US east and EU are at most like +80-100 ping for people getting from other server that one the bot is on just because of inherent latency due to distance, it may also cause slow dl speed on crossrealm...usually capped at 100kb/s within same realm it should go to 1-2mb/s.
Or just make way to filter out autohosted games because some people play on those like Hero Push or Footies or others. You're talking about something that will hurt these smaller often competitive custom games communities. They also have a place in the game. All we need is filters that will get all games with lets say [ENT] prefix gone to be considered auto. Or for Classic team to cooperate with ENT and Diplomunion to improve both and make standarised stuff and make some distinction hosting on demand and auto 24/7 hosts. And blizzard would link to ENT from ingame...like it links to ladder and profile websites.
Filters won't help, the problem is that there are like 10 auto host bots hosting the same game and lobbies will fill a lot slower, now imagine that but with different maps. ENT and MMH aren't the problem, they are useful for people who don't own bots, only the delay might be a little problem. So getting rid of autohost bots would be really great, but sadly im not seeing that happening.
But these bots are there for certain maps that fill up fast, like Footmen and Hero Push, some others like Vampirism and Tower Defenses. Plus most of hte autohosting bots are from ENT anyway. Filter will help, ENT could just pecify these bots as Auto and they could be filtered out or in depending if someone doesnt or does want to use them/browse them. Removal of them isnt a real solution.
I'm pretty sure there is an equal amount of autohost bots from ent and autohost bots from clan. It's actually quite rare to see maps filling up that fast...
Why not? The lobby would be much better.
Why would someone want an autohost bot if they either could own a bot themselves or ask a hosting service? My whole point is to remove all auto host bots, not all bots, so people could join and fill games faster, have a cleaner lobby, host the map they want and be happy, I don't see how that is selfish...it's not only me who wants they removed.
Who says bots are dangerous? I've never seen anyone saying that. The first time I saw one I was curious how it would be, and it was great.
I don't understand what you mean by this, like, is it really that complicated to access a bot?
What the hell is "Man hosted games"? How does it difer from native hosting?
No one uses native hosting these days, that's pretty rare and no one said it was good, I don't understand your point.
People who play themdont host them it's far more frequent and easy when bot does this itself especially since maps like hero push are quick pvp maps and are played several times in the row.
as above. Demand hosting isnt that good for specific pvp maps like that.
Check older classic games forum section from past year and earlier and update posts for previous releases. It fortunetly got scarce recently.
For newbies and newcomers or peoplereturning after dosen-ish years it isnt - mostly cuz its 3rd party thing. And they get overehelmed by many bot hosted games and i agree that sea of autohosted games may cause big confusion among newbies too but filterong them out is better solution than removal not all people want to host but want to play these, some of these are also get go join games that people would forget to host themselves unless they feel like it and bots also work as map adverts cuz people may not even know thatcertein map exists especially since there are tousands of then in bot's databases on mmh.
i just meant native hosting xD
I just meant that it should be semi-official solution since native hosting is trash for these reasons i listed. Blizz and bot service providers like ent should cooperate to improve that even more and make it justbetter for everyone
Well Filtering could work too, if bots that autohost get tagged to certain filter to be viewed or hidden from games list when people need either of these options. It's similar to your idea
Either one could work. Personally I don't care if it is a bot running it or not.
Oh, I didn't know about registering the cd key to my B.net account. I've been out of the loop so I just recently found about the 1.29 patch when I went to go play the Gnoll Campaign.
Outdated versions are not available for download anymore, that's why.
