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Warcraft III Anniversary Week

Discussion in 'Latest Updates and News' started by StoPCampinGn00b, Jul 1, 2019.

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  1. Rui

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    @Murlocologist Any sanctimony to my earlier reply was unwitting. I merely meant to alert that attacking volunteers who spend their free time dynamising the site with pointless, destructive criticism only hurts their morale and discourages future initiatives. And that the warning comes from experience.
    And indeed I was also slightly venting if that's what you're getting at. :ain::ab:
     
  2. Tauer

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    It has everything to do with it, seeing as this whole anniversary week is free content that the team is making in their spare time, yet we still have ungrateful cretins attacking them for this delay.

    Uh no? Some of the people on the staff may work for Blizzard, but that doesn't mean that Blizzard runs the site and they sure as hell don't have anything to do with this event.
     
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    I still have yet to see what is free, who's making it and what it is :p
     
  4. Tauer

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    I don't know what you define as toxic, but this is pretty toxic to me:

    But maybe that's just me?

    Well, some people have lives. @StoPCampinGn00b explained the situation to us and that should be it.
     
  5. BlueSaint

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    Posting news doesn't entitle one to praise in itself. On the other hand, promising to post content at a certain time, produced during one's leisure or not, then not fulfilling promised conduct, is a harm, because expectations for fulfillment of that conduct (which were incited by the promiser themselves) were not met. This induces dissatisfaction and, if the conduct regarded a collective effort, possibly brings harm to other participants in said effort. Although it's worth noting SCN already apologized and a lot of uncalled-for denigration ensued. I just felt impulsed to write a contrarian post because I'm like that.

    Quality of Hive's operation doesn't reflect that of Blizzard's. I can only wonder how damaged a brain must you have to think so.
     
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    This situation has gone completely out of hands, the moral superiority, the condescension and the effort to lie is overwhelming.

    First of all, we didn't have the way to know the direct or indirect relationship of Blizzard with the "Warcraft III Anniversary Week", we made the mistake of trusting that Blizzard wouldn't miss the opportunity to celebrate the 17th anniversary of Warcraft III.

    Also knowing that two members of this forum (@Kam and @MindWorX) work for Blizzard and that basically they are part (or mainly as I have seen) of Blizzard's voice on Reddit and Discord servers (as when the Dark Ranger model was confirmed or it was reported that the beta was not going to be launched last week).

    As well, in the article that @StoPCampinGn00b published "Reforged Recap: The Future of Warcraft: Part II" we had the first news that he had the pleasure of being invited to BlizzCon 2018 and to Monday summit at Blizz HQ.

    So, knowing this, it doesn't seem improbable or illogical to think that HiveWorkShop and Blizzard were grouped behind this event.

    However, there are comments here in the forum that see this impossible, that whoever thinks that is crazy:

    People have been accused of attacking and insulting @StoPCampinGn00b for their work, falsifying reality, but I haven't seen any proof of it yet.

    Nobody is messing with him, or insulting his work, or anything, some people here have to improve reading comprehension.

    However, I've seen these kind comments on other forum members:

    Regarding this:

    - I express my feelings (and explain the reasons) about feeling spitted on by Blizzard's behavior during these 8 months - Is beign toxic.

    - @YourArthas shows his discontent by saying that he has the right to be toxic (without having done anything yet) - Is beign toxic.

    - I say I don't like Blizzard laughing in my face - Is beign toxic.

    ..., etc.

    I wonder if the comments I have quoted before insulting others seem toxic to you or not.

    Sincerely, I hope that it's only you because it seems that for you it's toxic everyone who gives his opinion but doesn't match yours.
     
  7. Chaosy

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    It's not about that.
    What bothers me is that you announce publically that you will do something on a given date... and then don't.
    It's not that anyone forced this announcement or any details within it.
    If someone promises me something, I expect it to be kept. This seems like basic human decency to me.

    Of course, delays happen all the time. But that does not mean that feeling disappointed is not justified. *cough* check reddit after a game is delayed *cough*
     
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    You could've read the actual news article in the first place. It very clearly states that this event is organized by the Warcraft 3 community, not Blizzard. Why would you assume that Blizzard had anything to do with it?

    The problem here is that you're equating The Hive with Blizzard. So yeah, saying this stuff about The Hive (once again, a free website offering free content) is toxic. If you wanna complain about Blizzard that's fine - but this thread is not the place to do it. When you choose to complain in a place that has nothing to do with Blizzard you don't get to whine when people mistake it for complaints against this site and its staff.

    A game is a product that you pay for - this is not. Nobody paid for this, nobody is owed this. The deadline wasn't kept - an explanation was given and that is it. There's nothing more to it.
     
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    Yeah exactly this, I mean when I announce something to public about Rebirth, I really feel obligated and I use my *free* time to do it, (it is also a *free* project) and I push myself because I feel bad if I can't keep my promise to fans\users\players, also I mean if I'm not sure if I can complete the article\release whatever I don't announce it, for example if the week was just this: Reforged Recap Part II, noone would feel disappointed because the 'delayed' parts would just be in private of staff making it public was a mistake that made people disappointed, I think there is nothing wrong with stating it
     
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    This is only true if you preorder, which not everyone does.
     
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    Damn. Flames spreading like wildfire in California. Hive is no exception it seems.
     
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    To be so emotionally invested in a video game, that you think it is okay to be insulting to real people.

    Stop being so toxic people. You're owed nothing. Everything the hive stands for is literally people giving you free stuff because they enjoy creating it. Pushing those people away with wanton toxicity and misaimed aggression is the last thing you should be doing.

    People have real lives, delays happen. If you want guarantees and deadlines, pay them.



    So count to ten, take a sip of coffee, or other preferred beverage, and enjoy your day.
     
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    This thread is totally useless. It should be locked until further notice.
     
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    Imagine being such sensitive snowflakes that that slightest negative vibe is to be censored.

    It's not even toxic. Play some online games, because that is truly toxic. I do not spot any death threats, low IQ statement, braindead accusations or wishing torture by cancer here.

    I am more annoyed by the kindergaren dream land standards in this thread rather than the minor inconvenience the delay caused in the first place.
     
  15. Tauer

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    At the end of the day, it's still a commercial product. The companies are asking for money in exchange for their product - this comes with the consequence of criticism if said product isn't delivered on time. The Hive however does not ask for money. And just so we're clear, I don't have a problem with people being slightly annoyed by a delay - as long as this annoyance is voiced in a civilized manner. My comments in this thread were not directed at you in any capacity.

    Whataboutism doesn't really work in practice. Toxicity comes in many forms. Calling people "ass lickers" and "fucking hypocrites" is pretty toxic to me. Not as extreme as death threats for sure, but I'm not really sure I agree that that's where the line should be. Everyone who's not conducting themselves in a civilized manner, especially towards someone who's giving them free content, is toxic to me.
     
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    Ok. I never blamed SCN. Hes proven member of the community.
    But i am communist, and i dont give an F word for titles and authoritys.Its not because of that, its because SCN surely had best intentions

    He even took responsibility and guilt on his backs, while there was no need for it at all.
    No need to defend blizz and be crucified here, trust me.

    Its not i am mad blizz lying us again. Yes you hear me well, cause it must have been hive members like SCN have some indirect contacts with blizz.

    What worries me are those hypocrats telling us we are "toxic" towards SCN, when we dont blame him at all.

    So basically what we got here in past few days was :

    1. SCN goes like : Blame me, i am responsible (but hes not he just probably love this game thats all and he was emotional)
    2. Some hive members calling other who dislike blizz action anti-SCN
    3. Maybe only few metnioned SCN in negative way, probably cause they are ignorant suckers maybe?
    4.Intentionaly cricifying SCN and identifying him with blizz cause they saw a mindless crowd does so , blaming others being toxic agaisnt him, when actualy majority dont blame him at all.

    Those SCN "advocates" with their approach can only hurt SCN and pout in in focus of everything.

    This last kind is what i hate the most, they are so aware and udnerstand whats going on very well.

    Those f0cklng hypocrats.
     
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