ToD Battlefield v2.4

[deepstrasz]

1. The terrain is bare and flat. Maybe you could make it look nicer at least in some places. You can create or use doodads on/through which units can pass.
2. Player colours should appear in a leaderboard for easier use of the -attack <colour> command.
3. How is it fair if you lose all units even if you win a battle? Won't that leave you defenseless against the other players if you don't have towers? And even with towers, maybe their troops are stronger. I guess you're supposed to wall yourself in?
4. There are two charge ability icons on the Knight. One is an autocast spell and the other is a passive having the Boots of Speed icon and its position is after the Remove ability.
5. Units can only be removed one at a time no matter how many times you press the ability.
6. Teleportation doesn't work a second time. Had 14 units. Tried teleporting 2 and 12 at a time but nothing.
7. What are the distance and roads for if you're supposed to teleport units since they move so slowly? Also, no -tele E, W, S, N, middle?
   
8. Wild Bird House ability needs a proper description. What exactly it does, damage, duration etc.

Generally, it's an OK map, maybe you could add more stuff (more factions, unit roles/diversity), make it look nicer.

Left to Pending for now.

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[matin45]

The terrain is bare and flat. Maybe you could make it look nicer at least in some places. You can create or use doodads on/through which units can pass.

I only can create doodads in the edges of the map, not more and I will do this.

Player colours should appear in a leaderboard for easier use of the -attack <colour> command.

Ok

How is it fair if you lose all units even if you win a battle? Won't that leave you defenseless against the other players if you don't have towers? And even with towers, maybe their troops are stronger. I guess you're supposed to wall yourself in?

I don't know what are you saying, Can you explain to me?

There are two charge ability icons on the Knight. One is an autocast spell and the other is a passive having the Boots of Speed icon and its position is after the Remove ability.

One is for speed boost and it's passive. How can I hide it?

Units can only be removed one at a time no matter how many times you press the ability.

Do you have any idea for it?

Teleportation doesn't work a second time. Had 14 units. Tried teleporting 2 and 12 at a time but nothing.

Yes sometimes it doesn't work but I don't know why.

What are the distance and roads for if you're supposed to teleport units since they move so slowly? Also, no -tele E, W, S, N, middle?

I want to replace the teleport system to a new one that works with a ability(Blink). I'm working on it.

Wild Bird House ability needs a proper description. What exactly it does, damage, duration etc.

Ok

Generally, it's an OK map, maybe you could add more stuff (more factions, unit roles/diversity), make it look nicer.

I did add some new units, systems and upgrades today, when it reaches a good level, I will release it as v1.9. Maybe tommorow I do this.

Left to Pending for now.

It means, next time I update it, you will test it again, yeah? It's very good, you know I haven't the orginal game and in the clients, most of people just play DotA and no one help in testing.
(You are the best tester of my maps)

 

[deepstrasz]

I only can create doodads in the edges of the map, not more and I will do this.

You can if you want to, some grass types and stuff which don't impede movement or construction and you can even make them not high/big so that they won't be annoying to look at when small units like footmen get on/through them. But of course, it's not compulsory.

I don't know what are you saying, Can you explain to me?

After a battle, your army is gone even if you win. If a player attacks you after that, you lose because you will have no defense except for one-two towers. But this needs thorough multiplayer testing to confirm. However, you are forced to build towers because of this.

One is for speed boost and it's passive. How can I hide it?

I'm not sure how or if you can on 1.26. I think you have to put negative values to the X and Y positions. Anyways, if you can't hide it, at least put it before Remove and make it look passive (Button Manager v1.8.2)

Do you have any idea for it?

I don't know. Make better triggers or maybe you can make a spell that transforms them into nothing.
But why complicate when the easiest method is: A Unit Starts the Effect of An Ability->Ability Being Cast=Remove->Remove Unit from the Game.

Yes sometimes it doesn't work but I don't know why.

Try fixing it. Use the World Editor Help Zone if you can't figure it on your own. Ask around.

I want to replace the teleport system to a new one that works with a ability(Blink). I'm working on it.

Well, you'd need unit group triggers since blink only teleports one unit at a time.

(You are the best tester of my maps)

Well, actually, not really, more likely one of the few who test it and give feedback. I mean, if more people would leave gameplay comments, that would be better.

 

[matin45]

After a battle, your army is gone even if you win. If a player attacks you after that, you lose because you will have no defense except for one-two towers. But this needs thorough multiplayer testing to confirm. However, you are forced to build towers because of this.

Units don't defend you, they're only for attacking, it means you must create towers even if you have a large army.

But why complicate when the easiest method is: A Unit Starts the Effect of An Ability->Ability Being Cast=Remove->Remove Unit from the Game.

I did this but it works for only one unit. Remove with command is a bad idea?

 

[deepstrasz]

I did this but it works for only one unit. Remove with command is a bad idea?

Then make a chat command -remove which removes currently selected units.
Player chat message=-remove (units)->Unit group-pick every unit in currently selected units (or something like that) and do unit-remove unit.

 

[BradPittlord]

If you use the Troll Berserker, Berserk ability all units selected cast it. Then you can remove em.

 

[matin45]

Even with different unit types?

 

[BradPittlord]

Oh my bad nvm

 

[deepstrasz]

Even with different unit types?

No I don't think so.

I see you've updated. Were the pressing bugs fixed?

 

[matin45]

I didn't changed terrain yet, Also, Teleporting system and remove system is still old,
But I did other simple things, Leaderboard, Changing "Charge" and "Wild Bird House" abilities.
Actually, I did them before you tell me bugs and my internet is going out so I did updated this until I back.

 

[matin45]

1. The terrain is bare and flat. Maybe you could make it look nicer at least in some places. You can create or use doodads on/through which units can pass.
2. Player colours should appear in a leaderboard for easier use of the -attack <colour> command.
3. How is it fair if you lose all units even if you win a battle? Won't that leave you defenseless against the other players if you don't have towers? And even with towers, maybe their troops are stronger. I guess you're supposed to wall yourself in?
4. There are two charge ability icons on the Knight. One is an autocast spell and the other is a passive having the Boots of Speed icon and its position is after the Remove ability.
5. Units can only be removed one at a time no matter how many times you press the ability.
6. Teleportation doesn't work a second time. Had 14 units. Tried teleporting 2 and 12 at a time but nothing.
7. What are the distance and roads for if you're supposed to teleport units since they move so slowly? Also, no -tele E, W, S, N, middle?
   
8. Wild Bird House ability needs a proper description. What exactly it does, damage, duration etc.

Generally, it's an OK map, maybe you could add more stuff (more factions, unit roles/diversity), make it look nicer.

Left to Pending for now.

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Description Guide - Maps
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Updated!
Almost everything has been changed.

 

[deepstrasz]

Almost everything has been changed.

Please write a changelog. I have no idea what almost means.

 

[matin45]

Please write a changelog. I have no idea what almost means.

I did it, you can check
Teleport System is now better
Remove System now works with command
I did changed Terrain

 

[deepstrasz]

I did it, you can check
Teleport System is now better
Remove System now works with command
I did changed Terrain

Oki.

1. Any plans to make starting positions random?
2. Also, you can make it so that chat keywords won't require lower case or capital letters, just the word. I think the trigger event has that option.
3. Encountered a bug. Attacked blue and teal with two groups. With the second group, I moved some of the units forth and left some behind then moved them too but they got locked outside of the grass zone probably because I used the attack command while they were still outside.

Anyways, overall seems to be working.

Approved.

(previous comments: ToD Battlefield v2.0)

 

[matin45]

Encountered a bug. Attacked blue and teal with two groups. With the second group, I moved some of the units forth and left some behind then moved them too but they got locked outside of the grass zone probably because I used the attack command while they were still outside.

Units in out of grass can't participate in battle, to fix their postions you need use -back command.

Any plans to make starting positions random?

For this map, starting postion is not matter with global teleport.

Approved.

To be honest: I was surprised
Approved without any Awaiting Update!
I like it. Thanks

 

[matin45]

Sorry too much updates in this two days.
There is a bug and I try to fix it and I'm looking at best way to do this.

 

[DR.Strange]

Hello Matin45 THATS GreaT bro