Terraining Contest #11 - Battlefields

[idodik]

Goolygot, if I'm not mistaken the trees are the main change to the terrain, and they don't add anything to it. Well, except perhaps the big ones. I'm sure there's some type of wasteland tree or weed you can use for this.
I'd recommend you spread your units evenly, and not cluster them in groups (of raiders, grunts, etc.). And what's that silver thing in the middle of the wall?
Also you should use texture variation when it comes to the ground.
Otherwise nice concept and execution, and very nice terrain overall.

 

[Goolygot]

Well normaly in wars and such. The units is set up in groups like I did. And that silver thing is a giant tooth or something, that belongs to the wall model.

 

[indomitable1319]

@David_89
A lot better.

@Oziris
Oh, my, God...

@idodik
Alright, I'll see if I can do anything.

 

[supertoinkz]

/@ idodik : I'll do the ground later. What tree? And its not a shrine but the equivalent of that angel.

 

[Raven0]

I'm working on the visibility of the ents, can you guys tell me how this is compared to the last one (as far as visibility goes)?



Thanks for your continued feedback ^-^

 

[InfinateAnswers]

I like it but the mountain kind of just cuts off. It feels as though there should be a visible hill behind the mountain before you see sky.

 

[David_89]

@David_89
A lot better.

Ok, thank you

 

[darkzxx]

eerie fog is recolourable ?

 

[PROXY]

I'm pretty near to my final entry.
But I'm not really sure.
I made 3 different pictures, 2 with fog, one without.
What should I take?

I prefer picture 1 without fog.

As I've already mentioned, remove the wall behind, and make some wastelands there. It doesn't need to be much, just some explosions and a wide desert. This way it just looks like a little skirmish, and not entirly like a battlefield.
But beside that, I love it ♥ =P

 

[indomitable1319]

@Raven0
OMG!!! Those were ents???
I thought they were trees...
Right now they look pretty messy, it's hard to understand what they are until you tell someone what they are.

 

[chilla_killa]

Okay I tried to remove the rocks in the background.
I had to change the camera or else you couldn't see far.
I also tried to experiment with sky and day/night.
Here are many screenshots.

So what do you think?
Shall I keep the old camera with rocks in background?
Or take this new perspective with wasteland in the bg?
Is night or day better?

I think the old perspective was better.

 

[darkzxx]

oooo chilla_killa,where did you get that smoke model that is appearing in where the robot is standing ?

 

[chilla_killa]

It's the aftermath of a nuclear explosion

 

[darkzxx]

Yah i know that but where did you get it

 

[Midnighters]

@Chilla, It looks good, but you need something in the background, it looks like it just stops right now. As for which time of day, night looks best to me.

 

[PROXY]

Okay I tried to remove the rocks in the background.
I had to change the camera or else you couldn't see far.
I also tried to experiment with sky and day/night.
Here are many screenshots.

So what do you think?
Shall I keep the old camera with rocks in background?
Or take this new perspective with wasteland in the bg?
Is night or day better?

I think the old perspective was better.

you were understanding me false.

take the old camera perspective. it was way better and looked more epic. I just wanted that you remove the rocks and add some small lands there, just a background.

A little bit like this, look at the background

or take a look at Oziris nuclear explosion, there you can see pretty good what I mean. it should be somewhere in the terrain section.

 

[chilla_killa]

I know, but out of the perspective I had before you can't see into the far.

 

[darkzxx]

so...where you got that model ?

 

[chilla_killa]

Just search for nuclear explosion.
WILLTHEALLMIGHTY made it.

Okay, I modified the old perspective deleted some view stopping rocks, flatted everything out.
Is the perspective okay?
Now I can add something in the background.

 

[Oziris]

Raven0, did you darken the rocks? Btw, if it's night you should really give it the night feeling with the torches/fire rocks/burning ents lighting up the battlefield.

Nice Chilla_Killa, looking better already, maybe a ruined city in the background?

 

[idodik]

I've written this before and I'm writing it again - walk anims can't be applied by trigger functions. Can anyone help me display them ingame without making the units actually walk?

 

[chilla_killa]

Yeah, I have a good idea now.
How many days do I have left?

 

[darkzxx]

think it up......20 jan is expiry date now would be 7jan with GMT +0
20-7=13

 

[Adiktuz]

@idodik - maybe edit the models in magos to switch the stand and walk anims...

 

[idodik]

The problem is that I want both standing and walking units of the same type.

 

[chilla_killa]

Import two different models.

 

[Cihparg]

Made a quick sketch.

Hidden

What is it? Well, Its a human who's life has ended. He was a couch-potato, fighting to survive life.
Hmm, it is somehow a "Battlefield" But I don't know. It lacks details & Other but 'am tired.

 

[Oziris]

Battle? Where? Looks more like a horror scene

 

[chilla_killa]

lulz how big must the sofa be if the corpse is so small on it

 

[Raven0]

@Raven0
OMG!!! Those were ents???
I thought they were trees...
Right now they look pretty messy, it's hard to understand what they are until you tell someone what they are.

If you see them from a 3d perspective in the editor you can easily tell they are ents, but for some reason from a snapshot 2d-perspective they look like a jumbled mess of trees and foliage. I don't know if I have time to re-do it, but i'm actively thinking of how to change it.

The problem is I am taking a relatively far shot of them. Ents are trees so if you take a picture of a bunch of them from far away thats exactly what they look like. An unfortunate result that isn't helped by the fact that I've placed many vines and shrubs on the ents which tend to fill in the gaps between their limbs.

 

[indomitable1319]

Ah, I see. Try giving them some sort of Night Elven aura, like a leaf trail coming from their bodies.

 

[2-P]

I've written this before and I'm writing it again - walk anims can't be applied by trigger functions. Can anyone help me display them ingame without making the units actually walk?

call SetUnitAnimationByIndex(unit, integer)

You can use Warcraft3 Viewer to get the index/integer of the animations or you just randomly guess until you find the right one. They (obviously) start at 0.

 

[M0rbid]

@OffGraphic: As long as you do not really underline and show any real battle between to forces going on, this does not count as fitting to the contest. I see what you are aiming for, but this is only a critical statement, but does not cope with the theme of a battlefield.
However apart from this not fitting in, the idea is great in general

 

[Raven0]

Ah, I see. Try giving them some sort of Night Elven aura, like a leaf trail coming from their bodies.

There actually are leaves falling from their bodies, you just can't tell in the picture b/c they blend in with the ents. I think I'm going to try removing some of the detail on the ents so their form is clearer.

 

[indomitable1319]

Alright then. Good luck.

 

[Oziris]

Another update, tell me how you like it.
Ignore the screen captured >.>
I'm concerned about the lava.

 

[idodik]

Yes, there is something too liquid about the lava. You should make it thicker if possible. And how is it that only the house close to the camera turned over and not the others (in the lava zone)?

 

[Rainbow Evil]

That is really awesome, maybe making monsters bit more focused though. They are quite hmm... ...blured?

EDIT: sry, that was just my laptop

 

[AyeKantSpel]

I agree with idodik, the lava looks too liquidy, like orange juice of doom! Lol, very nice though.

 

[Oziris]

If I make it more thicker then it will look even more liquid then now. =/

 

[Goolygot]

Lava is supposed to be a thick liquid.

 

[The_Olorin]

Lava falls are nice by thenselves, but what i dislike is, that atm they dont realy look realistic. Thats cause other windows are totaly black. seems like the lava just appeared in this room and started to flow out of window. Other windows should have a light ornange glow, so it would seems that lava is in other rooms too.

Thats my opinion.

 

[Oziris]

Made the lava "thicker" At least I think I did. Oh and Olorin I think that won't look nice but I'll give it a try.

 

[idodik]

That's a much deeper and more lavalike orange color indeed, but it's still abit too liquidy in my opinion. In fact I think lava is supposed to be so thick that it could almost never be erupted into a thousand tiny drops, like it does in the background. If you'll look at the splash nearest to the camera, near that small dead tree, you'll see the drops are thicker than of those behind it.
Other than that it's breathtaking, I could never make such lava.

 

[InfinateAnswers]

The firelords eyes look very weird, try to find something else.

 

[Belgarath]

hope there's nothing worth reading between 30-70, eh

oziris, yours is extremely messy, the right golem is just barely discernible as being a humanoid kind of thing, the left one is just really a bunch of sticks and bushes sticking up and attached to the other golem. the older style houses on the left look a bit strange with the skyscrapers beside them. that.. hole.. looks plain bad. its a giant eyesore, and draws a lot of attention to it, which just defeats the purpose of having two pretty cool golems there. also why is the sun shining through a storm front :/. i'm of mixed opinions about the right side though, not sure yet

i'll see if i can't throw something together

 

[Cihparg]

For my quick sketch, I somehow knew it wouldn't be counted as a "battlefield", as it is only notionally/theoretically a "battlefield".

 

[Oziris]

Belgarath, don't golems look humanoid, because I'm sure they do. What do you expect a treant to be other then sticks and bushes? >.> I have no skyscrapers an the hole should draw attention because it's the shit they've did when they've clashed with their fists. Have you ever seen a storm which ended and the sun started shining through the weak clouds? You can clearly see this isn't the black storm which is causing tornados, heavy rain and etc.

 

[2-P]

What do you expect a treant to be other then sticks and bushes?

I'm sure that he'd look a lot better if he was closer to the camera, but in his current position plus with the lack of contrast he looks more like a big bush.

It seems that it gets a bit more messy with every update. You have golems fighting during a storm while the sun is shining, lava is jumping around and a giant, attention whoring hole.

What's the most important aspect in your shot? Maybe you should focus more on that one thing and tone down all the other stuff.

 

[Oziris]

If you mean messy by me adding to much details for your eyes to catch all then yes, probably. I'll see what I can do to make the fight a bigger eye catcher.