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{OLD} Wc3:WoW Discussion

What should the Wc3:WoW Team focus on most?

  • Terrain: Landscapes, Cityscapes, making all surroundings as similar to WoW as possible.

    Votes: 164 20.9%

  • Characters visuality: Visible equipped weapons and armor, physical features such as beards or hair-s

    Votes: 140 17.9%

  • Class balancing: Make all classes as balanced as possible, to make PvP much more competitive.

    Votes: 53 6.8%

  • PvE: Quests, Mobs, Instances/Dungeons, etc.

    Votes: 128 16.3%

  • The Website: Make the website have a more Warcrafty style, add more information about Wc3:WoW's prog

    Votes: 6 0.8%

  • Cool WoW-Like Features: Auction House, Inventory system, Battlegrounds, Talent Tree system, Party/Ra

    Votes: 146 18.6%

  • Fix it: Fix as many bugs as humanly possible before proceeding to progress on another part of the pr

    Votes: 48 6.1%

  • Beta Teams: Make the Closed Beta team a bit larger. Focus on their suggestions and consider their id

    Votes: 12 1.5%

  • Ventrilo/Chatrooming: Get a ventrilo server for fans to get a chance to gather and talk to the Wc3:W

    Votes: 7 0.9%

  • Advertisement: Focus strongly on advertising Wc3:WoW on YouTube vidoes, Battle Net, etc. and release

    Votes: 21 2.7%

  • PvP: Make Player VS Player/Bot more entertaining, balanced, and skill-based.

    Votes: 59 7.5%
  • Total voters
    784
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He won't be able to slaughter level sixties in two hits, but probably 3-6 hits ought to kill 'em. Depends on their gear and skill, as well as overall teamwork to overthrow the boss. The level will not be in the thousands, I'm just saying it's doable. The level will probably be 150 or 500. I think I remember someone telling me that the bosses are level 500 elites, but I doubt it.

~Craka_J
 
umm in WOW i believe.

there are level 60 bosses.

there are level 256 bosses ( i think azurogos is level 256 ... not sure..)

there are level 500 bosses (like ragneros and onyxia )

then there are the big mfkerz like the lich king and illidan ( unknown levels xD )


im not sure about the level 256 bosses...i just heard about those.
 
just to help you clear this one up. I never played wow after prebc, did anyone go back to MC and BWL and all those places after they hit level 70 or 80 and look at the bosses levels. and if it just came up with a skull I'm pretty sure that means that they were just a boss and were never ment to have a level. If they were anymore than like 5 or 6 levels higher than the characters I'm sure it would have been a lot harder to kill them prebc.
 
tyeeeee1 said:
...idots lol, even i know that a boss with a Skull for a level is 2 levels higher then the max level when that boss was released.

So thrall should be level 62 elite
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This is correct. This can be determined in game by the miss/dodge etc. percentage that a player gets. Miss and dodge are based off your comparative level to the target you are attacking, it is harder to hit a creature higher level than you and easier to hit a creature lower level than you. If you have ever tried hitting a level 70 creature with a level ~55 player, even with your hit maxed out, it is damn near impossible, and yet onyxia can easily be hit, she doesn't have like a 90% miss rate. Some bosses are sometimes 3 levels higher. Bosses show up as "skull" even when you are 70 because that's something that has been programmed in to WoW, but for balancing they count as 2 (sometimes 3) levels higher, not 255 or 500 or what ever ridiculous number you care to make up. I think the main reason that on private servers your max level is 255 is something to do with the game engine and the way it stores character's, most specifically their level, there is only storage space for 255 levels!

Conclusion: Bosses should be level 62 or 63 for some really hard ones.
 
NinjasDontFight said:
I'm confused with this lvs 255-500 stuff...


I just thought Onixya, Arthas, whatever... just had about 100k-500k of health... and 50,000-500,000 damage!?
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MWAAAHAAHAHAHAHA! 100k-500k? That's what a random critter has. Illidan for example has OVER 4 millions of hp. And Chuck Norris hp... well first of all there is no existing number big enough to calculate it, and secondly, a humans mind would not be able to handle the number even if it existed. But that has nothing to do with the discussion.
 
lmao


actually GM's in WOW are level 255.

and im not saying thatthe level 62 boss thing isn't good. in fact i would prefer it that way.

but im just saying there are set levels. If you look closly in WOW, you will find that the miss ratio is calcutlated by the enemies Evasion, and your miss rate with your weopon.
the evasion doesn't tie in with the level that much, since a level 60 player, and a level 62elite boss would never get hit. istead there evasion is balanced with the players as to prevent never getting it.
 
Alright, alright! Enough discussing what level bosses might be and Illidan's (A boss that won't even be included in Wc3:WoW at all) pet. Lets get on another, more important subject: JASS scripters. We're in a desperate need for more! Although BoneBreaker claims to be working, I have my doubts. Besides, all cannot be left up to him for that will be a great risk and puts too much pressure on him anyway. Therefore, I need JASS scripters. I DON'T NEED GUI TRIGGERERS, NO MATTER HOW GOOD YOU ARE!

~Craka_J
 
QQ I never really bothered to learn JASS. GUI has everything I need most of the time, and now when SC2 comes out it will apparently be 90% GUI with the new language being more like C# which I understand. GL finding coders :)
 
Craka_J said:
Alright, alright! Enough discussing what level bosses might be and Illidan's (A boss that won't even be included in Wc3:WoW at all) pet. Lets get on another, more important subject: JASS scripters. We're in a desperate need for more! Although BoneBreaker claims to be working, I have my doubts. Besides, all cannot be left up to him for that will be a great risk and puts too much pressure on him anyway. Therefore, I need JASS scripters. I DON'T NEED GUI TRIGGERERS, NO MATTER HOW GOOD YOU ARE!

~Craka_J
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So have you tried people like poot or people from wc3campaigns yet?
 
u know who the best scriptor is ?

N-a-z-g-u-l

he made the best jass made thing ever. he had gravity, acceleration, momentum, walking with arrow keys, all physics!!! and with it he made planes to actually fly like planes in warcraft 3. go search his name, and look up combat zone. you will be amazed.

leakless too !
 
thedeathunterxx said:
u know who the best scriptor is ?

N-a-z-g-u-l

he made the best jass made thing ever. he had gravity, acceleration, momentum, walking with arrow keys, all physics!!! and with it he made planes to actually fly like planes in warcraft 3. go search his name, and look up combat zone. you will be amazed.

leakless too !
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That sounds too awesome to be true. But if it is, he will be my new God.
 
thedeathunterxx said:
lmao


actually GM's in WOW are level 255.

and im not saying thatthe level 62 boss thing isn't good. in fact i would prefer it that way.

but im just saying there are set levels. If you look closly in WOW, you will find that the miss ratio is calcutlated by the enemies Evasion, and your miss rate with your weopon.
the evasion doesn't tie in with the level that much, since a level 60 player, and a level 62elite boss would never get hit. istead there evasion is balanced with the players as to prevent never getting it.
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WRONG

GM's use normal chars same as everyone else, they just have commands that make the account special. You can only get past the max blizz elvel on a private server, dosent mean that GM's on a live server can do all the same stuff as private.

The Bosses like thrall, sylvannis, and the rest of the city bosses are all 2-3 lev els higher then the max player level. Thrall in Vanilla=lv62 Thrall BC=lv72 Thrall WOTLK=lv82, Go use HeidiSql and use ti with a private server, it shows there level in the creature proto.
 
A strange bug in the demo version:
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/8688/wcwowqj2.jpg

I pressed on a hero several times and this showed up. Then i pressed yes, nothing happened. I pressed on other heroes and the number of yes & no increased O.o
Its obviously my fault, but i thought i should report it.
 
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