Oakheart Lands

[WolfFarkas]

Reserved


Is not new that all my melee maps are 1 million of years to reach ladder.
So I hope this one is better than the all other maps I made so far.


Any feedback would be most welcome. I would really like to know if this map may worth for a ladder play.


(1 of the starting positions is not being show, left down of the map, I used the 1.29, is a common thing, like in the 24 maps)

 

[Nudl9]

I think you could open up the map a lot more by removing trees near center.
Yellow start is going to take a much harder beating than someone like teal, who's gonna get stuck inside his base.

 

[WolfFarkas]

I think you could open up the map a lot more by removing trees near center.
Yellow start is going to take a much harder beating than someone like teal, who's gonna get stuck inside his base.

yeah , I could remove some trees, now that I look the map after you point the idea, nice hint.

"Yellow start is going to take a much harder beating than someone like teal, who's gonna get stuck inside his base."

Well my idea, by luck, is that yellow (and red) should rush and focus in tier 2 and teal rush to tier 3 or focus on aerial.
also yellow has violet near to help.


the idea is that teams are balanced, while there are differences in terms of neutral access and expanding options.

I played this map and went for a pure rifleman sorceress combo, so I slow the enemy and polimorph the enemy taurens and enemy aerials (flying sheeps).
I hope people can have that kind of fun as I had., of course I always remind behind friendly melee units.

I am asking if this worths ladder, because if not, it will be pointless to put more effort and try to improve it further, it can remain as it is and float in my junkyard melee pack with my other unbalanced maps.

this map is somehow like Feralas ladder map, but with 10 players and some asymetric simetry.

 

[Nudl9]

I think you can make ladder viable, but i doubt it's going to be popular.
The most popular 4v4 RT maps are the ones that provide freedom of movement.
Freedom of movement also enables the more fun ideas like flamestrike towerplanting in trees.
I think that the map would actually be better if you barely had anything in center.

I get that you want to make positions slightly different, but you have to keep in mind that some players crumble more easily than others under pressure, so it's usually in best interest of the team as a whole that most spawns are "equal". So that you don't get unlucky by having your weakest player spawn in the key spawn.

edit:
something like this.
Keep center and just open entries to base.
I think maybe you can rotate expansions towards the players for extra safety too since it will be hard to expand otherwise.

 

[WolfFarkas]

I think you can make ladder viable, but i doubt it's going to be popular.
The most popular 4v4 RT maps are the ones that provide freedom of movement.
Freedom of movement also enables the more fun ideas like flamestrike towerplanting in trees.
I think that the map would actually be better if you barely had anything in center.

I get that you want to make positions slightly different, but you have to keep in mind that some players crumble more easily than others under pressure, so it's usually in best interest of the team as a whole that most spawns are "equal". So that you don't get unlucky by having your weakest player spawn in the key spawn.

edit:
something like this.
Keep center and just open entries to base.
I think maybe you can rotate expansions towards the players for extra safety too since it will be hard to expand otherwise.

After 5 mins of looking your draw, I can make one opening more but not boths, because the tree line should be very dense to protect the back of the goldmine. I can do it, open the paths with the green but no with the orange,

but yes I feel it would be great to try and have one opening more at least. (already in my agenda to do).
but also I would wait if there is more feedback and or the map moderation (also finished this recently, so gonna rest of this map, I dont want to rush and update now).

 

[Nudl9]

Well im just throwing the idea at you.
It wasn't meant to be taken too literally.
Its a 1 minute drawing.
Just clear some tress so you can access the base.
How you do it is up to you.

 

[WolfFarkas]

Well im just throwing the idea at you.
It wasn't meant to be taken too literally.
Its a 1 minute drawing.
Just clear some tress so you can access the base.
How you do it is up to you.

ah ok, still I really like the idea.

 

[borissuworov]

I don't understand... We have only 9 base-marks on mini-map?

 

[deepstrasz]

I don't understand... We have only 9 base-marks on mini-map?

I think it's a Hiveworkshop error. I saw this sort of stuff when the 24player maps came out.

 

[WolfFarkas]

I don't understand... We have only 9 base-marks on mini-map?

I think it's a Hiveworkshop error. I saw this sort of stuff when the 24player maps came out.

because I used the 1.29
download the map and you will see I put the yellow base there also, the site recognice the 10

 

[master Gul'dan]

I love it.

 

[deepstrasz]

Generally, it's not easy to create a good-unique layout for maps with many players, especially as many. And this one is pretty straightforward, the pretty stuff being outside of ground range.

It's balanced however standard in terms of design.

Approved.

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