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Hive Workshop Cup Melee Mapping Contest - Results

Discussion in 'Contest Archive' started by Landmine, Oct 11, 2019.

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  1. Rui

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    I dare not comment on 1v1, but in team games, marketplace definitely is way too powerful. Since items drop all the time, you can keep equipping your heroes with the best stuff. Theoretically, you can even research Backpack and have a unit farming items from it, though I've never seen anyone do that.

    According to what @Nudl9 has argued, ideally this would be best at contest launch so you can cater to judges' tastes.

    I've been reading through the various pages of the thread. Man, what a mess, lol. I would propose a judge nomination policy similar to that of peer-reviewed papers. Namely, contests should have a minimum of 3 judges, and their evaluations should be weighted according to curriculum and expertise.

    Three degrees to classify expertise should suffice: the notorious, renown melee player is top tier; someone who's accepted as a good melee map maker or player, perhaps even won a few contests, is second tier; someone who's made a few melee maps and/or played a bit of melee is bottom tier. Intentionally, this shelf lacks a «no experience» tier. Those people shouldn't be judges to begin with.
     
  2. WolfFarkas

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    we are trying to not speak of the past (is a delicate thing), but to look foward.

    I am done, already presented my text for evaluation.
     
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  3. Nudl9

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    I like marketplace though.
    It all depends on the highest item drop.
    Echo Isles for example doesn't drop anything above level 4.
    I see it as a problem if you can get too powerfull items based on the amount of players.
    If you can buy inferno stone in 4v4 then it's broke or if you can get anything above 4 because of auras/consumeables in 1v1 then it's broke.
     
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  4. WolfFarkas

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    I wrote to the staff, that I am going to be inactive, and perhaps the best is to close the hive-cup thread. I am not going to try to push foward the proyect I started. Perhaps was a bad idea from the very begining, sorry.
     
  5. Kerael

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    @WolfFarkas Cheer up. It's not your fault that we ended up in this mess. There are other things out there!
     
  6. Mr.Henci

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    @WolfFarkas sad to hear that, was hoping you could clear up this mess. But real life should always come first, thus thanks for your effort.
     
  7. Heinvers

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    Have the awards been delivered?
     
  8. 3ICE

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    I received an email:
    but it's nowhere to be found in this thread.

    Edit: Before you close this I'd very much like to read Farkas' already completed reviews. Some of these maps are excellent and deserve to be reviewed again. If it's not possible here then separately, on each maps' resource thread. Please @WolfFarkas, do share your words with us.
     
  9. mafe

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    Apparently not yet.
     
  10. Heinvers

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    Alright. I'll get to it asap.
     
  11. Nightmare2077

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    Thanks, Heinvers!
    It's been two months...
    I'm very sorry that the contest was a bit rough around the edges (to put it mildly). This was our first experience, and I definitely consider it to be an overall success.
    Once again thanks to everyone involved. Long live Warcraft, long live Hive!:goblin_yeah::goblin_yeah:
     
  12. 3ICE

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    Site layout got all kinds of messed up.
    And why is this usually gray background pattern https://www.hiveworkshop.com/styles/hive_nightelf/xenforo/posts/post_message_upper.jpg all of a sudden replaced with the picture of a lady.
    Possibly related to: roxette sängerin marie fredriksson
    (No, never heard that name before.)

    Edit: All fixed now, was seriously weird. Could have been corruption on my end. This was the only thread affected and it only lasted for a minute. (Then again this was the only thread I opened at this time. Page 9 only.)

    The picture was:
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  13. WolfFarkas

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    -I am only uploading this because you asked: as some sort of feeback/ideas (this is nothing oficial). (I dont wish to offend anybody or cause problems).

    -I just hope that this text may be usefull in some way to somebody.

    -The score is just an exercise, I wanted to think how I would do this, is really hard to mind numbers, compare maps each other may help a bit.

    Is very subjetive,and perhaps there may be mistakes, (also is rushed)

    https://www.hiveworkshop.com/attachments/wolffarkas-feedback-ideas-of-maps-pdf.343174/
     
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    There's a lot of in-depth points in that review, like Uther's Slumber where wisp can go from tree to tree.
    I wouldn't have thought that was even possible, you certainly have an eye for detail.
     
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    Very cool @WolfFarkas !

    I can see the maps you reviewed might be older versions now. What I am trying to say is some of us updated the maps after the first results came in, it's no problem, but most of the same critique is there.

    Anyway, nice job :wthumbsup:
     
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    Thanks for the effort, @WolfFarkas

    I'll agree to disagree with tons of your points in the terrain section, but the rest of it is pretty cool to read. So thumbs up. Shame you did not participate as a judge!
     
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    @Jackyy.BaDitO2 you haven't posted your map to the resource section. I cannot give the participation reputation if you have no entry submitted. Please see to it ASAP.

    Reputation and award icons are out. Let me know if I missed something. Enjoy!
     
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    @Heinvers Thanks so much for finishing this up! :)
     
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    @WolfFarkas Amazing Work. Thank you for perseverance.
    I've played a bit with the numbers you obtained:

    I like what I see. The distribution seems somewhat uniform.
    The scale of total points (golden line) is linear enough to easily compare your views on any given pair of maps.
    One thing, however.. The three categories of judgment are specifically created to cover different things, thus they shouldn't correlate with one another unless a map is near perfect in all aspects / is bad in general.
    The scores look quite objective overall, but I'd argue with most of your points, since they feel like preferences to me. :P
    Various conclusions are given without explanation or something to support them; some are partially wrong. I know that you were hurrying to complete it and you don't owe me anything. So no biggie.
    Lord of the Pit was designed to explore some of the weird stuff so this may indeed hurt balance and such. It's harsh, but also provides opportunities. And the problems you mention are accounted for.
    How did you estimate 'low quality in balance', by the way? And out of curiosity, how many games have you played on this map?

    Not to sound negative or anything. The map is met with resistance for some reason, and I just wonder why.
     
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    I rewiewed the original maps in the zip file, so I am going to speak acording to the original version of the map.

    Since you asked 2 questions, I will awnser, but by pm, because is probably ythat this thread will be closed soon.


    nice graphics by the way.

    The three categories of judgment are specifically created to cover different things, thus they shouldn't correlate with one another unless a map is near perfect in all aspects / is bad in general.

    1- Creativity score if goes with good gameplay and good terraining, it will correlate with balance and enviroment, that category is not independant. Creativity is for good execution ideas.
    2- Enviroment: I was very trapped in reduced numbers:
    1-10 seems low score, 28-35 seems high. So I was trapped between 11 and 27. Balance has more range of judging. (Even in balance I felt trapped in the score in the comparison between maps).
     
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