Warcraft 3 Reforged

[deepstrasz]

Guys, don't start a useless time wasting paranoia.

 

[Zephyrius2412]

I'm sorry for those who are excited, but, according to a reliable source, and because Blizzard said that "we are preparing something completely new for the Warcraft franchise", Blizzard will not get anything more, including what has already been announced, in the entire course of 2019, so we'll have to wait for Reforged, and for anything else. I would love to pass the link to the source, but it is a video in the Spanish language, so it would be useless and frustrating.
On my opinion, I consider that the most pessimistic are right. Hive will be fragmented. Unfortunately, I will not be able to obtain the Reforged until much later than its release on the market, so I will experience in the first person an abandoned and desolate Hive.
But that does not have to be the end. After a while, and due to the functionality of the economic currents and the decrease of the offer, all, including myself, will be able to buy this game, and we will be able to enjoy a reborn Hive, the powerful improvements to the editor, that will open us a endless of new possibilities, and, more importantly, an empowered and amplified community, as united and active as when Hive was created, due both to the new people and to the union that separation always brings with it.
In summary, I believe that, at the beginning, the reforged will harm us, but if we manage to survive, it will allow us to evolve and empower ourselves as never before, being beneficial in the end.

Hive does not need a reforged game to keep going. The community has always worked with the classic game, so I don't know why it couldn't continue as well.
(Moreover it is a fake news !)

 

[Eat_Bacon_Daily]

Jesus what a bunch of pointless fear mongering

 

[Leods]

Hive does not need a reforged game to keep going. The community has always worked with the classic game,

Yes, I don't say the opposite.
But, be sincerely with yourself. This Hive, isn't the same as, ten years, per example. In 2008, the Hive was very active, so much active than now. This is what I say.

(Moreover it is a fake news !

Yes, i know it now. And for this reason I sayed that I SORRY. Nobody would give a fake news on purpose. I was also cheated, and I hope you understand.
Anyone can fall into that, and, in fact, we have ALL EVER fallen. And sure you feel something inside you, and that makes you angry, and that's because you remember a similar situation in your life, in which that happened to you.

Jesus what a bunch of pointless fear mongering

Please, explain exactly what you mean. I will be very happy to refute you.

 

[ZethHolyblade]

Well, that's strange.
I didn't found the video, but it found a page that explains it
Blizzard no tiene previsto ningún lanzamiento de peso para 2019 - MeriStation
I admit that it is not as clear as in the video, in which I could explicitly see the Blizzard developers, saying these words in an interview, but it will serve.

I translated it for ye, but it gave me a headache to read this lazy-ass article (red = thoughts)

- Without Diablo IV (meh)

Spoiler: SillyArticle

Blizzard isn't expecting any relevant titles being launched in 2019

The Californian company admits it won't be launching any relevant videogame this year, but there will be great contents for current titles instead.

Activision Blizzard (lol) is giving us much to discuss over the last hours; after its fiscal year closure presentation confirming the lay off of 8% of their work base - no less than 800 workers from various divisions - those in charge have confirmed that they have no important videogame launch expected for 2019 (they wrote the same sh1t three times already? Geez)

A year with fewer benefits for the company (who cares?)

One of the people in charge admits that 2019 will be a less beneficial year for the company in economic terms due to the absence of relevant game launches (holy hell again with the same line? are these supposed to be journalists or what?). "Speaking about Blizzard, we expect a substantially lesser financial performance in the current year. 2018 was benefited by World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth's launch, while there's no expected heavy launch for 2019.

Through these statements, we can reach several direct conclusions such as the absence of a possible Diablo IV or new expansions for World of Warcraft (wtf? didn't they just say Blizz would be coming up with content for currently available titles).

Activision Blizzard promises great news in the future (you don't say) with "the richest content for PC, consoles, and mobiles yet (these dumbasses don't ever learn now don't they?

Spoiler: lmao

) and we hope a significative increase in development resources would accelerate coming launches" they concluded.

Coming titles scheduled by Blizzard are Diablo Immortal (yuck) for mobile and Warcraft III reforged, a new version of the classic RTS Warcraft III videogame.

 

[Leods]

Well, I see you are angry with Blizzard .
Now, i suppose the video was a misinterpretation of the true facts, so... Just forget all this.
About Diablo Inmortal, i think the game itself isn't bad, just they didn't approach the news in the right way.
If they had said something like "for Diablo fans, we have the news that we are working on what is expected, a Diablo IV (news and general idea of the game.) But, unfortunately, this game is such a big and ambitious idea , that it will take time to develop it, so, besides that, we did not want to leave you all forgotten, without giving you anything to eat ... So you can ... Entertain, while waiting for this great game: Diablo Inmortal, a new game available both for mobile and for PC (Diablo Immortal features) "
Maybe the news would have been lightened, and the fans would not have gone mad of that.

 

[deepstrasz]

It's an economical move, if that's what you want to call ambition. Indeed having the game also for PC would have been the best movement to make fans happy but that meant most people wouldn't have bothered with the phone version.

 

[ZethHolyblade]

Not trying to derrail the thread into a diablo discussion, but I just want to point out two things:

First, I literally don't get the need for fans to have a Diablo IV title (plus the name looks fugly). It needs to end in Diablo III, they should simply continue the story with the Amazon 2nd DLC.

They hinted it through Tyrael and the neo-horadrim fella's dialogue and the amazon they relesed in their dota-esque title.

I honestly thought they were doing that, unleashing Inarus and Lilith as two of three possible storylines/campaigns based on RoS's ending.

Second one I forgot, oh well.

 

[deepstrasz]

First, I literally don't get the need for fans to have a Diablo IV title (plus the name looks fugly). It needs to end in Diablo III, they should simply continue the story with the Amazon 2nd DLC.

I disagree. For me Diablo ended with II. Besides, IV looking ugly and III having to be continued by rehashing Diablo II characters is simply worse and a nostalgic taste issue.

 

[Leods]

It's an economical move

Obviously! But the fans don't need to know it (it's also a las in the economy and business managing)
About Diablo, i didn't say "Diablo IV is necessary" but it is what the people want, and, in marketing, the company must follow most of the rules that his fans impose on them (with this I do not say that if the fans say "we want as a boss to illidan mounted in deathwing, with zombie dragons that every two seconds resuscitate the lich king", they should do it, but only that which is relative to "making such a game, such expansion, etc.")

 

[ZethHolyblade]

I disagree. For me Diablo ended with II. Besides, IV looking ugly and III having to be continued by rehashing Diablo II characters is simply worse and a nostalgic taste issue.

My story originally revolved as an alternate D1-2 universe, with a completely different follow up, 'til I had to change it. D2 should've been it yeh but we live in a post-D3 world sadly.

 

[Anaxie]

Obviously! But the fans don't need to know it (it's also a las in the economy and business managing)
About Diablo, i didn't say "Diablo IV is necessary" but it is what the people want, and, in marketing, the company must follow most of the rules that his fans impose on them (with this I do not say that if the fans say "we want as a boss to illidan mounted in deathwing, with zombie dragons that every two seconds resuscitate the lich king", they should do it, but only that which is relative to "making such a game, such expansion, etc.")

You should probably quit speaking for other people or what they need and dont need to know.

People arent stupid gamers. Its why EA, activison, bethesda, blizzard , and bioware are on a downward spiral in the last few years

I personally have no faith in blizzard to release ANYTHING worthwhile anymore.
Warcraft 3 being a remake and being built around the old game is the only reason to have faith in that product. Moving forward. I wouldnt trust them considering blizzard has expanded into being A run of the mill GaS developer

If warcraft reforged was an original new product today. They would sell you the each campaign seperatly a year apart 40$ and $60 'delux editions. And monetoize it out the ass with half baked skins.

Just look at Starcraft 2

Look at the abandonment on HotS

The stagnation of Overwatch and popularization of lootboxes in the industry (thanks blizzard)

Their MMO WoW literally has options for people to buy gold and max level characters with 3 out of touch grindfest casino simulator expansions in a row.

As for diablo 4?

never forget Diablo 3 and the RMAH before RoS expansion. Never forget Diablo immortal.

The only diablo product to have faith in is the eventual D2 remaster or remake.

Blizzard of the 90s and early 2000s is gone. Its an old company thats filled out with newcomers desperate to work for a pittance under the Blizzard name and Corporate money crunchers.

 

[Leods]

Well, this isn't definitely the original theme, but I will answer:
You are saying the truth. But Blizzard, after all his bad points, still to maintain something: The lore. The excellent, beatiful lore, the one that can make thousands of people speculate for hours about what or what will happen. And it's not because of the gameplay and renewal (after all, I could not get them) so I'd like to see new games. It's because of the story. That lore so rich, that at the same time is immersive for the player (that's why I would not work with simple books, they are a video game company, not a literature one, and I doubt they know how to do it). Many complain about the current lore (see BfA) without noticing that, compared to other companies, Blizzard is one of the best, with mythological inspirations (even from the LOVECRAFTNIAN MYTHOLOGY) and a very complete network of plots worthy of a cinematographic series, many of them movies, and a great infinity of books. Maybe their games are like others, of basic gameplay and little creativity (that's another thing, Blizzard is extremely creative. Fore example: in HotS, he gave a complete spin to most games of the genre. In Overwatch, you have "heroes", similar to Warcraft 3, with AoE skills, objective goal, point unit, ultimates, and everything we enjoy learning so much from those Hive tutorials) but because, in those games, there is a very complex story, ready to be unraveled, with great references and inspirations.

 

[Shar Dundred]

You serious?

 

[Leods]

Why you say that?

 

[ZethHolyblade]

Spoiler: The whole comment

You should probably quit speaking for other people or what they need and dont need to know.

People arent stupid gamers. Its why EA, activison, bethesda, blizzard , and bioware are on a downward spiral in the last few years

I personally have no faith in blizzard to release ANYTHING worthwhile anymore.
Warcraft 3 being a remake and being built around the old game is the only reason to have faith in that product. Moving forward. I wouldnt trust them considering blizzard has expanded into being A run of the mill GaS developer

If warcraft reforged was an original new product today. They would sell you the each campaign seperatly a year apart 40$ and $60 'delux editions. And monetoize it out the ass with half baked skins.

Just look at Starcraft 2

Look at the abandonment on HotS

The stagnation of Overwatch and popularization of lootboxes in the industry (thanks blizzard)

Their MMO WoW literally has options for people to buy gold and max level characters with 3 out of touch grindfest casino simulator expansions in a row.

As for diablo 4?

never forget Diablo 3 and the RMAH before RoS expansion. Never forget Diablo immortal.

The only diablo product to have faith in is the eventual D2 remaster or remake.

Blizzard of the 90s and early 2000s is gone. Its an old company thats filled out with newcomers desperate to work for a pittance under the Blizzard name and Corporate money crunchers

.

I love this post

 

[YourArthas]

I love this post

Exactly everything that needs to be said is in Anaxie's post

The lore. The excellent, beatiful lore....

It was excellent and beautiful back then man, they screwed alot of stuff after vanilla WoW and never came back to the glory only: Oh no they don't die outside of Nether, oh no Illidan was not killed, oh no there must always be a Lich King incase we want a new scourge expansion....

Fore example: in HotS, he gave a complete spin to most games of the genre. In Overwatch, you have "heroes", similar to Warcraft 3, with AoE skills, objective goal, point unit, ultimates, and everything we enjoy learning so much from those Hive tutorials) but because, in those games, there is a very complex story, ready to be unraveled, with great references and inspirations.

Overwatch. lul.

 

[Suedomsael]

Well, this isn't definitely the original theme, but I will answer:
You are saying the truth. But Blizzard, after all his bad points, still to maintain something: The lore. The excellent, beatiful lore, the one that can make thousands of people speculate for hours about what or what will happen. And it's not because of the gameplay and renewal (after all, I could not get them) so I'd like to see new games. It's because of the story. That lore so rich, that at the same time is immersive for the player (that's why I would not work with simple books, they are a video game company, not a literature one, and I doubt they know how to do it).

If I may rejoin this discussion in this thread and pertain to your own point with the lore, well I guess I do have to agree with you, UNLESS OF COURSE you are talking about crap WoW lore...

because IF you ARE talking about WoW and its majorly farcical and ridiculous stories (that is also full of retcons for that matter)... then everything that you said that is colorful and praising in this post of yours for Blizzard is a lie and a complete joke, bud...

 

[deepstrasz]

Why you say that?

I fail to see how heavily basing your stuff on existing material is original and should be admired. Sadly, you're living inside a fantastic bubble.

 

[Anaxie]

I fail to see how heavily basing your stuff on existing material is original and should be admired. Sadly, you're living inside a fantastic bubble.

And the lore that predates 2004 WoW has just ran empty with BFA killing Azshara and pretty much using the last known landmasses in the lore.

Randos liie gorthok the bloodied and erasamus the dread will be the new big bad of whatever story they pull out of their butt for WoWs next expac.

Not that i care unsubbed shortly into WoD and jever rejoined when it turned into World of Diablo as RNG systems started taking over

The only good thing about refoged to me is that if most maps get the culling of stratholme reforged treatment.

Same story or not its objectively a brand new pretty dang big single player RTS campaign series. Im anticipating reforged the same i would a high quality hiveworkshop campaign.

Something familiar but a fresh new campaign to play

 

[ZethHolyblade]

And the lore that predates 2004 WoW has just ran empty with BFA killing Azshara and pretty much using the last known landmasses in the lore.

Randos liie gorthok the bloodied and erasamus the dread will be the new big bad of whatever story they pull out of their butt for WoWs next expac.

Not that i care unsubbed shortly into WoD and jever rejoined when it turned into World of Diablo as RNG systems started taking over

The only good thing about refoged to me is that if most maps get the culling of stratholme reforged treatment.

Same story or not its objectively a brand new pretty dang big single player RTS campaign series. Im anticipating reforged the same i would a high quality hiveworkshop campaign.

Something familiar but a fresh new campaign to play

Sad status for WoW it seems. Never got to play it but got very interested in the lore mainly up until WotLK.

As for Reforged, I for one would be happy if they add Captain Falric and the others like in the 2P Human campaign as well as expanded maps and additional missions

But that would be too demanding.

 

[Devalut]

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THE HORROR
THE HORRORRRRRRRRR

 

[ZethHolyblade]

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THE HORROR
THE HORRORRRRRRRRR

That's not from Reforged.

Also, that flat ground is a bit of an eyesore.

 

[KingLichTR]

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THE HORROR
THE HORRORRRRRRRRR

apparently some of the missions are going to be changed "slightly" to fit in with wow lore... yea

 

[Devalut]

That's not from Reforged.

Nothing get's past you does it?
It's a wow's interpretation of a ghoul

 

[Anaxie]

Nothing get's past you does it?
It's a wow's interpretation of a ghoul

We already know what reforged ghoul looks like from the Culling beta.

They arent going wow art style. thank god

Case and point. Malganis

 

[Devalut]

@Anaxie
Visually, but wow's retconned infested story may influence Sylvanas & Jaina is where im worried, the ghoul is just acknowledging the wacky design choice of wows horrid visuals.

 

[ZethHolyblade]

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We already know what reforged ghoul looks like from the Culling beta.

They arent going wow art style. thank god

Case and point. Malganis

well said.

I really, REALLY HOPE that Mal'gannis get no 19th century-period sideburns...

Like WTF did those come from, WoW? Whose's brilliant idea was that?

 

[YourArthas]

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We already know what reforged ghoul looks like from the Culling beta.

They arent going wow art style. thank god

Case and point. Malganis

I can't explain with words how I hate this ghoul, atleast better than WoW though...

 

[ZethHolyblade]

I can't explain with words how I hate this ghoul, atleast better than WoW though...

It certainly takes away some of the hillarious appeal of the original (that cartoonish grin and side-stepping stand animation are just magical), but definately better than the fugly WoW ghoul.

 

[Anaxie]

well said.

I really, REALLY HOPE that Mal'gannis get no 19th century-period sideburns...

Like WTF did those come from, WoW? Whose's brilliant idea was that?

Dreadlords are already in culling so just google it.

He looks fine. Atlesst its not WoW Legion green everywhere dreadlords

Reforged it just a bit better or worse than @YourArthas and his teams Rebirth graphical mod anyhow.

Reforged looks like it ripped off the teams footmen rifle towers and knights anyway.

Eager to see how if they keep illidan with his superior wc3 style or go for the new hurrrr green everywhere WoW version

 

[YourArthas]

Dreadlords are already in culling so just google it.

He looks fine. Atlesst its not WoW Legion green everywhere dreadlords

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Reforged it just a bit better or worse than @YourArthas and his teams Rebirth graphical mod anyhow.

Reforged looks like it ripped off the teams footmen rifle towers and knights anyway.

Eager to see how if they keep illidan with his superior wc3 style or go for the new hurrrr green everywhere WoW version

SAVE DREADLORDS TAIL!

 

[ZethHolyblade]

But what about the tail?

 

[Anaxie]

@Kam

Can you confirm if reforged

Exodus of the horde Prologue will contain chapters 3-5 of the darkspear isles.

Riders on the Storm
The Fires Down Below
Countdown to Extinction.

Wih all the changes they are doing to fit new lore in reforged. if they skip these missions it would be woefully lazy

Nevermind that they dont even come with a wc3 download from bnet anymore. Disks or hiveworkshop only for downloads these days

 

[Kam]

Fish people tell no tales, mon.

 

[loktar]

I'm sure if it's not included in Reforged a remake will pop up on the Hive pretty quickly ^_^

 

[Anaxie]

Fish people tell no tales, mon.

So a no?

How unfortunate

 

[deepstrasz]

How unfortunate

 

[Shar Dundred]

Predictable.

 

[loktar]

I may be wrong, but interpreted that more as "I won't/can't say" Probably he signed an NDA.

 

[deepstrasz]

"I won't/can't say"

 

[Kam]

Won't. =)

 

[Anaxie]

Won't. =)

 

[Lord_Marrowgrath]

what about map sizes? Do they expand to 256/512 mb or not

 

[Verb8im]

Warcraft 3: Reforged - Hands-on with the Highly-Anticipated RTS Remaster | Den of Geek

Nothing new in this, but they got to play reforged recently

 

[Ghan_04]

Hopefully we'll get some news and maybe a more precise release date soon. I suspect the relative silence so far is because they are putting lots of effort into making the best it can be.

 

[Anaxie]

Hopefully we'll get some news and maybe a more precise release date soon. I suspect the relative silence so far is because they are putting lots of effort into making the best it can be.

More like because its a skeleton crew. So a timely release isnt a priority for blizzard looking at the current shitshow state of activision and blizzard Ips

Consider the fact the only positive reception from the company at this time out of all their products is the Beta for 2004 WoW

I wouldnt expect anything major from wc3R revealed until September after Classic releases at a minimum


On entirely unreleated warcraft news

Cyberpunk 2077 is very soon
Doom 5 is soon
New divinity game
And most importantly

Baldurs Gate 3 was just announced by probably the best developer that could be doing it: Larian.

 

[Verb8im]

Official Night Elf cover art revealed on PlayWarcraft3.com

 

[Suedomsael]

Official Night Elf cover art revealed on PlayWarcraft3.com

the night elf archer looks more like an undead dark ranger.

sadly, no image done for a demon hunter.

 

[Anaxie]

the night elf archer looks more like an undead dark ranger.

sadly, no image done for a demon hunter.

Cant have the amazon race dressing like amazons can we?

This is 2019 better make the night elves all full plate armor.

If they show any skin or booty would have to bring out the outrage brigade to make Blizz repent their sins against the woman