Texturing Contest #28 - Swamp Dwellers

[Moy]

Swamp Dwellers
Contestants are to create a skin representing a swamp dweller, basically a creature that lives in a an area of muddy or flooded grounds (a morass, bog or marsh) using the in-game Warcraft 3 unit models or a custom-made model found on the site.

In order to enter the contest and be eligible to win a prize, contestants must submit their final entry to the Skin Resource section.
Remember to write in the description "Entry for the 28th Texturing Contest". Furthermore:

• Submissions must follow the contest theme.
• Submissions may not be started / made before the official launch of the contest.
• Teamwork is not allowed (physically working on someone else's entry).
  • Giving feedback isn't considered teamwork and is always welcome. However if you feel someone is abusing it, you may appeal to the appointed moderator.
• Post 2 WorkInProgresses in the contest thread during the contest process. It should be clear that you are working on the submission.
• The submission must be posted in the respective resource section, before the contest ends.
  • The resource description must make it clear it's a submission from the respective contest.
  • As teamwork is not allowed the staff will close the resouce thread as soon as possible, that reviews can't be made.
    You're welcome to contact the appointed moderator, or staff, to speed up this closing process.
• Post your final entry in the contest thread before contest is over. The post should be a little presentation, having your submission attached.
• Judges may not participate.
• Submission must follow the Skin Submission Rules.
• You can use existing warcraft 3 models or custom models found on the site.
• Model edits are not allowed.
• Textures mustn't be larger than 512 pixels in any dimension when submitted as final entry, though you may work in 1024 (or higher), but they must be resized down to 512, preferable 256 on equal dimension textures when submitted.

Breaking any of these rules may lead to punishment in the judgement score, up to disqualification from the contest, depending on the weight of the issue. In case of doubts towards a certain rule you are very encouraged to discuss it in the contest thread so others and judges may help with sorting it out.

• 1st place: 40 reputation points
• 2nd place: 25 reputation points
• 3rd place: 10 reputation points
• Entry: 5 reputation points
• Judge: 5 reputation points

The three winning teams will receive an award icon, representing the winning entry.
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• @~Nightmare
• Judge 2
• Judge 3

Shading	Does the unit fit into the WCIII lighting environment? Is the source of light consistent? Does the unit have a realistic 3D shape enhanced by the shading? Is each individual part shaded according to the material?	/30
Concept	Does the design of the unit suit the model it is wrapped on? Has the author come up with creative ways to change parts of the model into something new? Does the unit fit into the style of WCIII?	/40
Details	Does the unit appear blurry and bland in-game? Are the details appropriate and realistically placed? Are the materials in use easily recognized?	/30
		/100

• 70 % of the winner shall be determined by the contest's appointed judge(s).
• 30 % of the winner shall be determined by the results of a public poll.

Results calculation

• Judgement: 70%
• Poll: 30%

FinalScore = (30*Reached_Votes/POSSIBLE_VOTES) + (70*JudgeScore/100)

The contest shall begin on 23 April 2018 and conclude on 28 May 2018 EXTENDED until 7 June 2018 GMT (day is included) EXTENDED AGAIN until 10 June 2018 GMT (day is included).

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Assigned Staff: @Naze

The Poll | Results

 

[Moy]

This post is set for the contestants table

We're just waiting for this contest to be approved

Contestant	WIP	Entry
Sharkarsh	Click	Click
aeman	Click	Click
Wildfire	Click	Click
Chen	Click	Click
Just_Spectating	Click	Click
The Leader	Click	Click
Ungoliath	Click	Click
PrinceYaser	Click	Click
Arowanna	Click	Click
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Post modified by Heinvers for archival purpose.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Ooh I've got some good suggestions for this one. ; )

 

[Naze]

Nice! =D

Okay I tagged myself as applied moderator, and I will move the contest to the main arena lobby at the day it starts.

 

[Moy]

Great! Thanks a lot.

 

[Mr.Goblin]

Great theme!

 

[PrinceYaser]

Love the theme! Subscribing.

 

[Sharkarsh]

bad theme. subscribing.

jk jk

 

[aeman]

example of swamp dweller

 

[Just_Spectating]

I do like this theme.

 

[Moy]

example of swamp dweller

Any creature that's mossy, muddy or is living on a swamp. Like a muddy monster with a catfish head. Or a mud monster with branches and stones. The picture on the contest tells about the theme.

 

[Arowanna]

There must be a way to force dragons into this..!

And I will go off-topic now, because I truly do not understand this.

Teamwork is not allowed. Such can be detailed and technical cooperation, like reviewing, which is prohibited. Smaller, subjective feedback is not considered as teamwork and is allowed.

Why is reviewing/critique considered teamwork, when was this rule added and why was it added?

I might have a completely different outlook on how to approach online contests, but isn't the main goal to improve? Compare this to Polycounts 'Noob Challenge' - nowadays just know as the Monthly X Challenge - where they actively push participants towards giving each other feedback, tips, critique and teaching each other techniques and tricks.

Whilst Polycount approach the idea of a challenge/contest as cooperative boot camp training, this approach seems to stem more from the idea that it is a chance for people to show off their talent and grow their E-penis. And I ultimately fall on the question, what is the point of that?

I might concede a single point of concern, that there could be an unfair distribution of "reviews" during the contest, but this can be countered by actively encouraging contestants to actually help each other along the way instead of seeing each other as unnecessary rivals. We are not fighting for the 200 or so Concept Artists positions in the game industry here.

Has this been discussed somewhere else? What triggered this, in my opinion, negative response to the idea of helping each other out? Any links that can help me understand the situation?

@~Nightmare please don't take this as an attack at you personally! I just want to understand where this came form.

 

[aeman]

Any creature that's mossy, muddy or is living on a swamp. Like a muddy monster with a catfish head. Or a mud monster with branches and stones. The picture on the contest tells about the theme.

im still having an argument with these but are they belong to the swamp dweller-type creature?

Spoiler: Too Big

 

[Moy]

There must be a way to force dragons into this..!

And I will go off-topic now, because I truly do not understand this.
Why is reviewing/critique considered teamwork, when was this rule added and why was it added?

I might have a completely different outlook on how to approach online contests, but isn't the main goal to improve? Compare this to Polycounts 'Noob Challenge' - nowadays just know as the Monthly X Challenge - where they actively push the participants towards giving each other feedback, tips, critique and teaching each other techniques and tricks.

Whilst Polycount approach the idea of a challenge/contest as cooperative boot camp training, this approach seems to stem more from the idea that it's the chance for people to show off their talent and grow their E-penis. And I ultimately fall on the question, what's the point of that?

I might concede a single point of concern, that there could be an unfair distribution of "reviews" during the contest, but that can be countered by encouraging people to actually help each other along the way instead of seeing each other as unnecessary rivals. We are not fighting for the 200 or so Concept Artists positions in the game industry here.

Has this been discussed somewhere else? What triggered this, in my opinion, negative response to the idea of helping each other out? Any links that can help me understand the situation?

@~Nightmare please don't take this as an attack at you personally! I just want to understand where this came form.

That was the new format of contests sadly, that I can't answer. Maybe @Naze could answer that. I think that rule was probably created becaause of the paired contest I don't know. I just copy pasted the template sorry.

im still having an argument with these but are they belong to the swamp dweller-type creature?

Spoiler: Too Big

Doesn't look swampy. It could if it was a bit muddy or something that lives in a swamp which was mutated or something.

 

[Abovegame]

I'd love to see what comes out of this.

Swampy should be something muddy, dark coloured perhaps, wet ofc, maybe has branches/swamp flora integrated with the body.

 

[Kyrbi0]

@Arowanna No time to elaborate, but in a nutshell: it's a change brought about by the new Arena mod regime, and one of my least favorite/most frustrating changes (for all the reasons you posted & then some).

 

[Arowanna]

@Arowanna No time to elaborate, but in a nutshell: it's a change brought about by the new Arena mod regime, and one of my least favorite/most frustrating changes (for all the reasons you posted & then some).

And we've to obey by these rules, I guess? Or can people discuss these topics for each contest held..? Because I'm in strong opposition to this ruling.

 

[Kyrbi0]

And we've to obey by these rules, I guess? Or can people discuss these topics for each contest held..? Because I'm in strong opposition to this ruling.

When it's been talked about before, it was often done in-thread, and there was some pushback about that being an inappropriate place. I have not yet had the time and motivation to marshall my efforts, but I imagine we need to make a post in the "Moderator Suggestion" forum to avoid being swept under the rug.

Anyway, on-topic: does it have to be a literal "swamp monster"? Can it also be a denizen of the swamp (a creature, or a playable race)?

 

[Naze]

Hey @Arowanna and @Kyrbi0! Yes this new wording of the teamwork rule is kinda recent. It was discussed internally though, at the time it came up. This is currently getting a wider discussion within the staff right now though.

I'm not detailing any pro and against arguments here because I'm certain this will derail the thread into a hot off-topic discussion, and that's what everyone wants (even me! Except my moderator side). Also yes, anyone is free to bring this up in Site Discussion... It's always better than having this conversation lost in the pages of contest threads.

Anyway, on-topic: does it have to be a literal "swamp monster"? Can it also be a denizen of the swamp (a creature, or a playable race)?

I second this question!

 

[Sharkarsh]

hello

 

[Naze]

Contest is up and running and has just been moved to the main Arena forum! Contestants may start publishing their WIPs.

P.S.: @Sharkarsh WIP is valid because it's actually me who is 1 hour late to approve the contest hehe

 

[Moy]

Looking good so far @Sharkarsh womder what it's going to look like in the end

 

[aeman]

now?

 

[Sharkarsh]

Looking good so far @Sharkarsh womder what it's going to look like in the end

it's gonna be swampy, swampy dweller

 

[aeman]

it's gonna be swampy, swampy dweller

lemme guess, shrek

i have no idea what im doing

 

[Moy]

Looking prrtty great. Take note that swampy doesn't always mean green. But looks great so far. Pretty interesting styles.

@aeman is that a custom model? Haven't seen that before tho.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Any thoughts on my question?

 

[Chen]

Subscribing here

I'm tempted to make a Druid of the Swamp that transforms into swamp animals maybe based on Druid of the claw or maybe something else. Let's just see how it turns out.

 

[aeman]

Looking prrtty great. Take note that swampy doesn't always mean green. But looks great so far. Pretty interesting styles.

@aeman is that a custom model? Haven't seen that before tho.

High King of the Elves
i have no idea how will he looked

 

[Moy]

Any thoughts on my question?

As I understand the theme, no it isn't. Never even thought that the theme would win. @Archian is only swampy or muddy monsters allowed or we could make something like @Kyrbi0 said?

 

[aeman]

im trying to make mine look like swamp revenant thingy
but i guess i should use a revenant instead

 

[Ungoliath]

I might have an idea for this

Loving the theme!

 

[Sclammerz]

Nice theme. I guess I'm gonna make an entry.

 

[Neruvatar]

Murlocs are probably best to be used here. Let's see if anyone can go into extremes.

PS: I hope I don't see mountain giants here. . Unless they become swampy, boggy, slimy mountains.

 

[Naze]

PS: I hope I don't see mountain giants here. .

I think I'm going to see mountain giants fitting in most themes that may be hosted here (although they have a difficult wrap) =P They're the best in versatility!

 

[PrinceYaser]

Medivh IS THE BEST ONE! XD

1st WIP.

Edit:
2nd WIP.

 

[Moy]

The mountain giant has some serious wrapping issues like stretchy and repetitive parts. Real headache. Worst wrap for me XD

@PrinceYaser looks pretty good, needs to be more swampy but looks prmosing so far.

 

[Wildfire]

My try:

 

[aeman]

another wip

change his skin color
trying to make like water came out from his eye

 

[Wildfire]

Some progress:
Idea: A witch at swamp

 

[Chen]

Does this require more moss or am I doing alright?

 

[Neruvatar]

Does this require more moss or am I doing alright?

How much of it is completed? I guess shading needs more work, with some details I guess

 

[Just_Spectating]

WIP 1

 

[Moy]

Oh, looks really cool atm @Just_Spectating Can't wait for the final look.

@Chen more moss or slime pls or anything swampy

 

[The Leader]

I can't miss a such interesting contest. ) A WIP will be posted soon.

Does this require more moss or am I doing alright?

I'd also suggest to add more moss.

EDIT: Here's a WIP.

TC#28: Ancient Swamp Seeker

Spoiler: WIP

 

[Wildfire]

WIP:

Hidden

 

[Moy]

Looks good guys. Hope you finish it. We need to revive the section! Keep it up.

 

[Just_Spectating]

WIP 2

 

[Wildfire]

My entry: Swamp Wanderer

Swamp Wanderer

 

[Ungoliath]

I'm going for Cave Goblin by SuPa-

Link:
Cave Goblin