Strife of the Elves V2.14

[Moderator]

11:08, 27th Mar 2010
ap0calypse: Approved

 

[meatfactory]

Well I tried it out and I can't say much cause I played it only once... First thing I noticed was the terrain - seriously epic. The concept is original not another dota-like map or not completely. Theres this thing I noticed in the Upkeep area it says - Kingdom of dreams beta you might want to fix that. Will update my comment when I play it a few more times.

 

[N1ghthawk]

Theres this thing I noticed in the Upkeep area it says - Kingdom of dreams beta you might want to fix that.

Fixed

Well I tried it out can't say cause I played it only once... First thing I noticed was the terrain - seriously epic. The concept is original not another dota-like map or not completely.

Thanks for the review mate, hope you enjoy future games

 

[pregomal]

is it based in the Demigod Game? or not? it doesn't appears to be...
But please,answer this.
Alsoownloading and testing.

 

[N1ghthawk]

is it based in the Demigod Game? or not? it doesn't appears to be...
But please,answer this.

No, the name just happened to be the same so I used their logo.

Hope you like it mate

 

[MortAr]

Nvm, gonna test it soon.

 

[N1ghthawk]

Nvm, gonna test it soon.

If you get around to reviewing it I could use all the feedback I can get :0

 

[HaniBon]

Lol you have stolen the Logo and name from the accual "Demigod" game

 

[arphax214]

lol i thought this map based on the real game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZG4xDJ7aIQ&feature=related
the terrain,units and gameplay..and i see this model odinhttp://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/project-odin-anarchianbedlam-137414/?prev=mmr%3D6 looks like the demigod rook in real game...^^

 

[N1ghthawk]

Lol you have stolen the Logo and name from the accual "Demigod" game

Well the logo was a result of the name which was a result of the objective of the game. So really I just took their logo. Regardless, however, I didn't "steal" anything.

lol i thought this map based on the real game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZG4x...eature=related
the terrain,units and gameplay..and i see this model odinhttp://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/project-odin-anarchianbedlam-137414/?prev=mmr%3D6 looks like the demigod rook in real game...^^

You know its funny, when pregomal said he thought it was the RTS Demigod game I actually thought that the Odin model looks similar to the rook as well. :0

 

[arphax214]

Well the logo was a result of the name which was a result of the objective of the game. So really I just took their logo. Regardless, however, I didn't "steal" anything.



You know its funny, when pregomal said he thought it was the RTS Demigod game I actually thought that the Odin model looks similar to the rook as well. :0

XD i like to see Odin in your map lol...hopefully people in garena like your map i host it and they like it...but im still learning the map its hard at first because some model looks similar to dota like traxex she was just a creep and im like confused at first..i like the gameplay at some point it has + fun when it comes to defending demigod..

 

[N1ghthawk]

XD i like to see Odin in your map lol...hopefully people in garena like your map i host it and they like it...but im still learning the map its hard at first because some model looks similar to dota like traxex she was just a creep and im like confused at first..i like the gameplay at some point it has + fun when it comes to defending demigod..

I know it took me a while to get used to the archer looking like traxex too . Also i'm thinking about adding more abilities to the Demi-Gods so the fights are more diverse.

Thanks for the comment mate!

 

[kibasuke]

Does it have AI? I don't have battle.net and Garena players commonly play DoTA and some other stuff, they stick on old maps and never advance -_-

 

[MortAr]

^ Yes it does, but its not something special.

By the way, the map is somehow bugged.
When I select it in-game to start a game, it gives me a critical error saying "A data is corrupt - war3map.doo".

 

[N1ghthawk]

By the way, the map is somehow bugged.
When I select it in-game to start a game, it gives me a critical error saying "A data is corrupt - war3map.doo".

Thanks for the report. When you select what in-game? You mean when you select the map from the map list in warcaft 3?

 

[Raging Ent]

This has alot of features etc, and I don't feel like writing something big - sorry.
But it's a nice map overall, but the problem with the AoS genre is people need to add difficult things to make it original which makes the maps very complicated for new players. OKAY! enough with the obviousness

 

[N1ghthawk]

This has alot of features etc, and I don't feel like writing something big - sorry.
But it's a nice map overall, but the problem with the AoS genre is people need to add difficult things to make it original which makes the maps very complicated for new players. OKAY! enough with the obviousness

Thats alright mate, just glad to get a review. I'll add a set of objectives and directions in the description so people know what to do to win the game. I'll also explain the quest/item/node systems.

Thanks for the feedback

 

[Raging Ent]

Yes MOAR tips!

 

[Lemming3000]

for an aos this is quite good , maybe make more race types? that would make this awesome like the team has to vote for the race they want ?

 

[N1ghthawk]

for an aos this is quite good

Thanks mate

maybe make more race types? that would make this awesome like the team has to vote for the race they want ?

Interesting idea, you mean like instead of just Dark Elves/Night Elves players should also be able to choose races like Humans or Dwarve as well?

 

[Lemming3000]

yea, with differnt demigods and differnt units which have differnt advantages/disadvantages like some races might have a really good melee attacker or a tank unit and other might have units which are better at killing towers etc

oh yea reading what was said earlier the ver i played i think you have released a new one since then, i was just playing it on my own but it took me ages to actually start since i was trying to find out how to make all the good item combos xD

 

[Wanarax]

cool... really terrain is stunning keep up good work

 

[Raging Ent]

More features? -.-
Just improve the ones you have imo.
Look at dota, it only has some features added to the general DotA idea, but everything is worked out perfectly

You can add some more features later, first improve ^^

 

[N1ghthawk]

Well obviously i'm not going to be doing any major revamps to the game right now (only improving on what I have), but its always good to have ideas for long-term changes.

Thank you all for your continued feedback <(^-^)^

 

[Ssilhouette]

Really love this.

 

[Lag_Reviews]

Here's a review P:

Well I was recently saw this map and as it looked good, so I decided to give it a review.

So here is the review, Hope you enjoy and use my ideas and criticism to help improve your map.

The Review!

*NOTE I played Night Elves - normal mode - normal mode - normal pick With Hero Shadow*

Things I liked:

• Epic loading screen
• Nice number of custom heroes
• Awesome custom spells/icons/items
• Epic terrain
• Nice number of game modes
• Nice number of item recipes
• like how you can Upgrade units creeps and buildings.
• Like the side quests for those that want to do them
• Match Statistics
• How the enemy hero that we have to kill comes onto the field when freed

PRO's:

• No Bugs
• No Glitches
• All of the game worked

CON's:

• Hard to get to the shops/quest area

Things you can do to improve the description:

• Could add an upcoming updates log so we know what you are working on fixing/adding

Things you could add to the map to improve it:

• You need to add more teleporters to get to shops/quest area (Read Suggestions Teleporters)

Suggestions

Suggestion Teleporters:

Okay I was recently playing you map and got really annoyed how I had to walk a mile just to get back to the shop/quest area of the map.

I was thinking maybe you could add a few more teleporters spread throughout the map so it isn't as hard to get back to base. (Although don't put too many in plane sight or enemy heroes will just use them to avoid being killed)

Overall, the map is a fun and enjoyable map which requires lots of strategy to win. The map also has many different game modes which makes for hours of fun and enjoyable play. Also as there are no glitches/bugs/errors in the stuff that I tested I would suggest this map to friends and people who like dota styled maps with a twist. I would also suggest this map to people who have an interest in custom icons/models/spells game-play and that map is also worth playing just for the scoreboard at the very end of the game.

I Vote for Approval and would give it a 4.5/5 It doesn't get 5 as there is still 1 con that I found and I didn't have a month to test all the different game-modes/items/heroes.

All in all hope you liked my review as much as I enjoyed playing your map,
Lag_Reviews P:

PS: I'd love to here your feedback on my review and can't wait to see what you can bring to this map and many others!

 

[N1ghthawk]

Well I was recently saw this map and as it looked good, so I decided to give it a review.

Serious review man. Critiques like your allow me to fix glitches, adapt the map to popular demand, and improve overall gameplay. Ty and +rep

I'll take the portal thing into consideration. One of the aspects of the game is that you have to weigh the pros and cons of going back for items (new items vs. time wasted and experience lost). However I do understand the frustration that may arise from this and I may decide to implement additional portals later on (maybe have portals on each path but have a 5-min. CD to use them).

 

[Lag_Reviews]

Love the idea

Serious review man. Critiques like your allow me to fix glitches, adapt the map to popular demand, and improve overall gameplay. Ty and +rep

I'll take the portal thing into consideration. One of the aspects of the game is that you have to weigh the pros and cons of going back for items (new items vs. time wasted and experience lost). However I do understand the frustration that may arise from this and I may decide to implement additional portals later on (maybe have portals on each path but have a 5-min. CD to use them).

Glad you liked my review P: Hope it helped. Thank-you for taking item to read through it and I am much appreciative. Also glad to hear you liked the portal suggestion P:

I like the idea of having a portal on each path that has a 5-min Cooldown although you still need to make sure heroes can't easily use them otherwise when you go to kill an enemy hero they would just run through the portals and avoid death.

Although to fix the avoid death issue you could some how make it that heroes have to be on full health to use the portals on the paths.

Thanks for reading my review, liking it and giving me rep,
Lag_Reviews!

PS: Can't wait to see what you come up with, with the portals and the future of the game. Keep up the good work!

 

[N1ghthawk]

Although to fix the avoid death issue you could some how make it that heroes have to be on full health to use the portals on the paths.

Good idea, must have 75%+ health or some such (or I could implement a system which detects when they attack/are attacked and say they can't use the portal within 15 seconds of combat or some such.

 

[Raging Ent]

that would allow them to bypass that if they run from a melee hero with storm bolt on 16 sec cd and he is about to hit but you tp away xD

EDIT: Which is nice, I suppose

 

[N1ghthawk]

Well obviously the details of the system need to worked out, but I think between a health catch and well-placed portals it could work.

Btw update coming that will include new heroes, quests, and items, a revamped in-game multiboard, a new creep boss, and several spells will have leak-fixes.

 

[benzas]

everytime i try to host this on my bot it seems to disconnect people for no reason as the load screen finishes sometimes the whole game sometimes just a few people

 

[onix_noob]

I haven't played your map because i stop playing warcraft but about the teleport thing. You can make it so if the player target the teleport with right click the game to check if the hero is in 100 or less range of the teleport and pause the unit for 10 seconds (teleportation time) before the unit is teleported to the base. Some effects u can make the unit transparent each 1 second by 10% and reset it's properties when it's teleported. I have find 2 maps (this and one more) that i wanna test maybe i will download warcraft to test them next week

 

[MogulKahn]

Download and testing!

 

[N1ghthawk]

I haven't played your map because i stop playing warcraft but about the teleport thing. You can make it so if the player target the teleport with right click the game to check if the hero is in 100 or less range of the teleport and pause the unit for 10 seconds (teleportation time) before the unit is teleported to the base. Some effects u can make the unit transparent each 1 second by 10% and reset it's properties when it's teleported. I have find 2 maps (this and one more) that i wanna test maybe i will download warcraft to test them next week

Nice idea, I think i'll be implementing a portal system in 1.3

everytime i try to host this on my bot it seems to disconnect people for no reason as the load screen finishes sometimes the whole game sometimes just a few people

Thanks for the report, i'll look into it and see if I can't find the problem



Also, update to V1.2 which will fix a few minor glitches

 

[benzas]

cool let me know if you find something only actually been able to get into the game once but it looked so awesome

 

[N1ghthawk]

cool let me know if you find something only actually been able to get into the game once but it looked so awesome

Will do, if you could give me some information it would help greatly. Were you trying this on a LAN, on b-net, or on another 3rd server?

 

[benzas]

i am using my ghost bot hosting on the real servers

 

[N1ghthawk]

i am using my ghost bot hosting on the real servers

Alright, I'm b-netting it this weekend with some friends. If the b-net works we'll also try ghost. Hopefully this is just an isolated incident, but if not i'll figure it out.

Thanks again mate +rep

 

[Tank-Commander]

Right, heres a review (requested by author)

Terrain - total of 5 marks
Triggering - total of 6 marks
Origionallity - total of 10 marks
Difficulty - total of 10 marks
inventivity - total of 5 marks
Replayability - total of 10 marks
Object data - total of 5 marks
Total Marks possible - 51

1-10 unacceptable - vote for rejection (1/5)
11-20 lacking - vote for rejection (2/5)
21-30 average - no vote (3/5)
31-40 good - vote for approval (4/5)
41-50 excellent - vote for approval (5/5) (+Rep)
51 Epic/Godlike - vote for approval (6/5) (+Rep)

For a high Terrain mark the map must look beautiful/amazing, the terrain needs to make the game more enjoyable for the player as well as suit the game type.

For a high Triggering mark there must be no leaks and be efficiant.

For a high Origionallity mark, there needs to be as few of the same game type/genre as well as game style along with unique systems and suchlike.

For a high Difficulty mark the game very simply must be as balanced as possible.

For a high Inventivity mark the game should get around problems that other games may have faced before and achieved it well.

For a high Replayability mark the game should be able to be played many many times and still give something new to the player as well for them to enjoy it over and over again.

For a high Object data mark the map should have used custom resources/standard resources well, such as fitting icons, good descriptions and tooltips.

Terrain: 5/5 - beautiful and magnificent, really great work

Triggering: 1/6 - I hate having to do this, but this map is full of leaks, also check out this bug that you'll need to iron out:

Buggeh

Origionality: 3/10 - there are way way way too many Aos maps out there, give this one something to spicen it up a bit more than all those otehrs

Difficulty: 10/10 - pvp basis, It's a AOS everybody already knows how to play.

Inventivity: 4/5 - I do like that little safe heaven as it were in the bottom left.

Replayablity: 9/10 - AOS, they are all 'replayble' like some find dota replayable, but ofc you have the haters who might not like it.

Object data: 5/5 - excellent use of object data, a great map.

Mark - 37/51 (4/5)
Rating - good
Vote - approval (doesn't matter as it is already approved)
+rep - no, with more work yes.

As this is a beta, The mark shall not be counted as a rating, however all +reps if a 5/5 or higher achieved by a beta will not be given again if the mark is improved once the map has come out of beta. If they get a 5/5 higher in a beta the creator will still recieve +rep.
Please inform me when the map has come out of beta so that this review will be updated to match the map out of beta, if however you are proud of this review with this mark achieved in beta you can request another copy in either just below this one, just above this one, or in another post later on in the comments.

 

[N1ghthawk]

Ty for the review mate, very well done.

I've now made it so if Demi-gods are attacked by an enemy tower they will instantly be teleported back to their base.

Also i'll get right to work on going through my triggers one by one patching up leaks.

Thanks again mate

 

[mouseman89]

this is odd wierd imo should the night elf warlocks be druids or something?

 

[N1ghthawk]

this is odd wierd imo should the night elf warlocks be druids or something?

They're joyful, fun-loving, tree-hugging, forest-dwelling, skipping-inclined, chuckling warlocks of doom.

 

[Spoontoobig]

WoW...

 

[N1ghthawk]

WoW...

Comparing it to when you last played?

 

[EMPerror]

ok, haven't played it yet, but from what i read, it seems incredibly complicated. I like having a not-everyday concept, but i think this would be just too much

edit : Ok, even more complicated than i thought.
I have no doubt at all that the gameplay is going to be awesome, and that the spells and triggering are awesome too, but after i started the game, i chose a hero, and it summoned my hero in a big area with a huge amount of items and some units and some quests and this and that... just too many things. In theory, the map should be awesome. But you should have started small, and then progress the map over some time. I mean, that's what happened to dota - it started small with dumb heroes, and then over the course of time, they added heroes and crap and now it's popular.
I'm not saying you need dumb heroes to have a good map, but if you force people to start learning all of those items and heroes at once, they are gonna give up.

still, gets a 5/5 for the awesomeness that i could see from the few, rather short, times i played.

 

[Raging Ent]

But you should have started small, and then progress the map over some time. I mean, that's what happened to dota - it started small with dumb heroes, and then over the course of time, they added heroes and crap and now it's popular.
I'm not saying you need dumb heroes to have a good map, but if you force people to start learning all of those items and heroes at once, they are gonna give up.

That is actually a pretty nice tip to all aos map makers :O

 

[N1ghthawk]

ok, haven't played it yet, but from what i read, it seems incredibly complicated. I like having a not-everyday concept, but i think this would be just too much

edit : Ok, even more complicated than i thought.
I have no doubt at all that the gameplay is going to be awesome, and that the spells and triggering are awesome too, but after i started the game, i chose a hero, and it summoned my hero in a big area with a huge amount of items and some units and some quests and this and that... just too many things. In theory, the map should be awesome. But you should have started small, and then progress the map over some time. I mean, that's what happened to dota - it started small with dumb heroes, and then over the course of time, they added heroes and crap and now it's popular.
I'm not saying you need dumb heroes to have a good map, but if you force people to start learning all of those items and heroes at once, they are gonna give up.

still, gets a 5/5 for the awesomeness that i could see from the few, rather short, times i played.

Thanks for your input mate, I am actually in the progress of creating a tutorial video for this game where i will explain each aspect of the map for new players. It's approximately 20% complete or so.

 

[MogulKahn]

I tried your map.Its very good.U played with magnataur.I dont get it?All his spells are based on 2nd spell?