Strife of the Elves V2.14

[N1ghthawk]

I tried your map.Its very good.U played with magnataur.I dont get it?All his spells are based on 2nd spell?

His Brawn spell will help him in other ways too but essentially yes. He's special in that way, you won't find another hero like him in the map.

Also you might have found that the cleave ability isn't too good in the beginning but if you stack strength items and build him correctly the spell will dominate end-game.

 

[Raging Ent]

His Brawn spell will help him in other ways too but essentially yes. He's special in that way, you won't find another hero like him in the map.

Also you might have found that the cleave ability isn't too good in the beginning but if you stack strength items and build him correctly the spell will dominate end-game.

Hey N1ght where do you play and test? I could help testing if you need someone, just saying.

 

[N1ghthawk]

Hey N1ght where do you play and test? I could help testing if you need someone, just saying.

We usually do weekends on b-net (western american server) but most of them have cancelled on me this weekend. If we're ever testing one weekend and could use another guy i'll message you and see if you can't come. Thanks mate

 

[Raging Ent]

You're welcome

 

[Vengeancekael]

Very well, by your request, i'll test the map again. But not now.

 

[xMystic]

I'm having the same issue as Benzas. Although I'm not playing on a official battle.net server (while I do own a valid pair of cdkeys, whatever), it desynchs about half players into a different game state (hosted with latest ghost CB). Hope you fix that one as the map looks very good to me. Can't play it with friends until then.

 

[N1ghthawk]

I'm having the same issue as Benzas. Although I'm not playing on a official battle.net server (while I do own a valid pair of cdkeys, whatever), it desynchs about half players into a different game state (hosted with latest ghost CB). Hope you fix that one as the map looks very good to me. Can't play it with friends until then.

I've looked through the coding several times to try and find what could be causing the problem and I have unfortunately found nothing . I was going to test it last weekend over B-net and ghost but ended up rescheduling it for this coming weekend.

I am also working on:
- Changing spell effects to make them look prettier
- Balancing some of the heroes
- A "how to" video for this game

 

[Raging Ent]

Desyncing isn't the map's fault it's your connection's..

 

[Oohforf]

I like it . But I think that you should bring some of the heroes from KOD into this. Like Violet Jadefire.

 

[N1ghthawk]

I like it . But I think that you should bring some of the heroes from KOD into this. Like Violet Jadefire.

You know my friend said the same thing. I think i'll start re-doing some of the more notable KOD heroes

 

[xMystic]

Desyncing isn't the map's fault it's your connection's..

How is that so? Explain how other maps do not desynch other players, but this one does.

 

[N1ghthawk]

In the words of Hubert Farnsworth, "Good news everyone!"

I have started to develop a new hero system that will revolutionize Demi-god gameplay. The changes will include the following:

- New heroes will become available
- Faction-specific hero selections might be implemented (with the option for free-pick)
- Every hero will now have 1 unique base ability that they start out with and is un-levelable
- All heroes will have evident synergy between spells (spells that go well together, support eachother, or do well when used in a chain)
- Spell effects will all be re-done and hopefully will even be more impressive and notable than the terrain


Also, I would just like to update and say I have not forgotten about this ghost error and have done some research. Please make sure nobody you are playing with is:

- using an outdated version of warcraft 3
- using any kind of cheats/hacks
- has any problems with their W3 installation

While I still encourage you to check the above, since multiple players have reported this problem I believe it is a problem with the coding in my map. I am currently in the process of researching what functions can cause desyncs.




EDIT - I now know more about de-syncs then I ever wanted to. I'm scouring through my initial triggers ATM and will update in a few minutes.

EDIT - If any of you who are experiencing this glitch could please inform me of at what exact moment did the desyncs occur (after you had chosen game modes and such, after you picked heroes, etc.) it would help me alot.

 

[MogulKahn]

I like that!Cuz some of this spells are overused!

 

[Vengeancekael]

Mkay review coming up soon.

Map Name: Demigod (Beta)

Creator: N1ghthawk

Information: Demigod is an aos with some new elements, but still has the classic features as well.
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Terrain:

The Terrain is beautiful, however there are just too many effects in the map, maybe reduce it. There's not much to say, the terrain is completely fine, no bad points.

Gameplay:

The Game is fun, the AI is ok i guess, although they always die to enemy creeps. However, balance is a big issue, intelligence heroes have maybe 300hp, but for example strength heroes have 900hp and so, the int heroes die with just a few hits. The Abilities are also annoying, because one of your first spells has a 140 second cooldown. But the game is fun for a while and the ability effects are well chosen.

Bugs/lag:

Well as far as i know, i didn't encounter any bugs and nor was there any lag with a lot of effects in the map and with AI Players.


Items:

There are alot of items to choose from and there is a big variety of items.

Imports:

There were a lot of custom models and effects making the map more attractive.

Description:

The description is well made, there is even a gameplay video included.

Overall:

It's a nice map, has some nice features, a nice terrain and some good and bad heroes, but it still needs a lot of improvements. But i think you are constantly working on it. 3/5

Other:

•There are weird sounds in the beginning.
•Towers have HP regeneration, annoying.
•There's so much text in the screen.

 

[N1ghthawk]

Balance should be much less of an issue with the changes to the hero system in the next patch. All strength heroes will be obtaining 50% as much health from strength and since the spells will all be triggered and spellpower will be available the caster characters will have the ability to buff their own spells.

I'll look into the sounds, text, etc. Not sure how much I can do about the txt though.

Thanks for the detailed review mate, +rep

 

[mouseman89]

The Environment was gorgeous to look at, with forests, indoor, castles... But the only thing that bothered me was the corridor, where Lina and Chase were going to their rooms, it was empty with just one brazier in it. Some Portraits or guards would make it better.

uhh isnt that in something else?

 

[Vengeancekael]

uhh isnt that in something else?

lol yeah removed

 

[N1ghthawk]

Incase some of you were wondering why I haven't released any updates lately, it is because I have working on a fairly substancial patch that will re-work heroes and items and also introduce some new systems.

The patch will either come late today (the 18th) or mid next week, depending on when I have time to work on it.

 

[benzas]

Its as the map starts the second after the starting screen ends is when people d/c

 

[N1ghthawk]

Its as the map starts the second after the starting screen ends is when people d/c

Thanks mate, +rep for the response but I actually solved the problem. The fix will come in the next patch (either tonight or tommorrow)

 

[light bolt30]

Testing map now... review will come shortly.

REVIEW
The loading screen is really nice. The terrain is nicely made. Gameplay is quite boring though throughout the entire game. The starting area/ Items Shops is quite confusing and isn't that noob friendly. I find that the towers are badly placed and creeps are too strong at the beginning to get gold from. Those ancient turtles are too imbalanced as they can push an entire lane to the last tower with ease. Although the tooltips and hero descriptions are very well made. Spells are quite orginal with custom icons.
Overall I find this map quite boring but has some nice terrain and originality.
RATING: 3/5 AVERAGE

 

[Raging Ent]

What's with the new HUGE multiboard?

 

[N1ghthawk]

Well i've been considering changing it to a leaderboard but really the information it has i generally want to know.

I guess I could take the tower kill count out

 

[Raging Ent]

Well if you use (for instance) 12% width for player names, 4% for kill / deaths , 4% for rest, you reduce the size of the multiboard drastically ;o

 

[N1ghthawk]

Well if you use (for instance) 12% width for player names, 4% for kill / deaths , 4% for rest, you reduce the size of the multiboard drastically ;o

Fixed, and also addressed some balance issues

 

[hardcore]

Hi I really like your map, especially that AI players are available.
Found a bug with Worgen's movement speed and the ar and ms increase skill.
I think first level gives 100% faster ms instead of 10%:
260 native speed is boosted to 450 with skill level1.
At higher levels it drops down to 150.
One time I even got an overflow, with skill maxed, boots and buffed it went negative.

Keep on with this nice map
Thanks

 

[N1ghthawk]

@hardcore

Thanks for the positive review and the report mate. I'll look into it

^(^-^)>

 

[MogulKahn]

I tried your new version of the map!I love your new skins and models!But I don like some things.
1.Barbarian-1. skill is Far Sight !HAHHAHAHA Man that spell sucks in normal wc3 melee maps, in AOS map.....(its better as item);
2.Your icons for some heroes are bad as Shadow Misterss or Archangel(you have on Model and Icon request icon for Archangel);
3.You have few same spell icons!
4.I think you can change skin and models from creeps like Archer or Dark Elf archer or that Fairy into normal wc3 models, because you have only 10 heroes and map is way to much with KB!
5.You can change voice from Archangel (spell braker) into Uthers voice("Do not fear","For the light", "The Light is with us")!
6.Pandaren Brewmaster have almost all same spell.First skill is new but others are old!Change it !
Thats all, I will tell you if I find any more "bad things"!
EDIT:I found icon for Archangel http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/requests-341/model-icon-mart-159913/

 

[N1ghthawk]

Well the far-sight was meant to compliment the axe throw spell in that it allows you to see where your throwing; but I agree, if I think of something new i'll switch it out.

Well the icon stuff is all a work-in-progress unfortunately as I like to have icons that sort of "go together" but resources are limited. Thanks for the link to the archangel icon, i'll switch it out next version.

Tested Uthers voice and your right its much better - will change for next version.

I'll think about some new abilities for the Pandaren Brewmaster - but I like him the way he is so i'm not promising anything unless I have a revelation.

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Thanks for the feedback and support mate, +rep

 

[Raging Ent]

Mmm fyi, a aos, where the main goal is pushing to a base, Far Sight can determine alot.

I don't know how the synergy is, but Far Sight itself isn't bad on a aos

 

[N1ghthawk]

Unless I think of a good ability that goes well with his others, i'm not changing it. But ofcourse if I do have some sort of epiphany resulting in a very cool ability coming to light for the Barbarian, I would likely replace it and turn the ability into an item.



WTB morz commentz

 

[Junpei]

Error youtube video

 

[Raging Ent]

Okay, another thing :

1) Something feels wrong about a strength hero having around 700 hp on level 15 while creeps have 440.

2) The fact they do, makes this AoS a more push-based than arena-based AoS, which brings us to the : no pusher heroes, there are healers.. but no summons (even 1 boar can make a difference).

3) Shop area is funny, but most of the time people won't bother checking it out and fight without items, maybe make a command that gives new players some starter stuff (they would still cost money ofcourse) or make something shiny to draw attention too the shops.

4 ) There seems to be a bug with Riptide, I casted on a ally but it damaged, and overall I wouldn't want to play a supportive caster with only 2 active abilities, too much luck based to support well.

5) Even though there's alot of doodads and details in the terrain, it's lacking for a fast paced aos, there is little room for high density skill throwing and line of sight tactics, as a pushing based aos that's fine I suppose, but it gets tedious.

6 ) What's up with the -emote? Are we playing a mmo or a aos, no just kidding it's funny but useless.

EDIT:

this stuff was written on 2.0, I've just downloaded 2.1 and noticed some potions when you pick a hero, a good start but I'll leave point 3 there

 

[N1ghthawk]

@Junpei

The you-tube video works fine for me :0


@Naro

6 ) What's up with the -emote? Are we playing a mmo or a aos, no just kidding it's funny but useless.

I like the -emote :*(


I am going to be giving str heroes slightly more health next patch (not by much) and i've been looking for a new hero idea so maybe i'll make it a summoning hero.

I will check out the riptide thing but the shaman is built with only 2 active spells for a reason and he can still be very useful on the field.

I am considering re-working the neutral area (though I don't know how)

Thanks for the post mate, i'll work some of this stuff into the next patch

 

[Raging Ent]

Fine, I was gonna make this for you, but I'll leave you to it:

Feel free to edit the numbers to make it balanced.

Chrime Maneclaw
--- Strength Hero---

Model : Bear (Level 1), Bear (Level 2)..

Skill [Base] :
Feral Link
Shares 25% of the damage done to you or your Boar for 20 seconds.

Skill 1 :
Summon Boar
(Summon Misha)
Model : Quillboar or whatever it's called.

Boar level 1: Rage
Boar level 2: Envenomed Qualls
Boar level 3: Windwalk
Boar level 4: Shamanic Return (See Skill 4)

Skill 2 :
Battle Cry
(Roar)
Increases the damage you and your boar do by 12 / 18 / 24 / 30% for 14 seconds.

Skill 3 :
Shared Strength
(Endurance Aura)
Increases the attack and movement speed of you and your boar by 8 / 12 / 16 / 20%

Skill 4 :
Shamanic Return
(Any dummy ability)
Teleports you to your boar (or your boar to you) and deal 80 / 110 / 140 damage in 180 aoe at your departing and arriving point.

EDIT : It's pretty simple but simple heroes give players a easy way to get to know the game.

 

[N1ghthawk]

I like the hero idea, i'll work with it and implement it.

 

[Raging Ent]

It's a good hero I suppose, easy for new players with the ability to be devastating in a good player's hands (Wind Walk with boar than Return in your victim's face etc)

 

[MortAr]

Your doing it wrong

Its "You're doing it wrong".

 

[Raging Ent]

Its "You're doing it wrong".

It's off topic ranting? :O

 

[MortAr]

I don't care what it is, I just feld like mentioning it.

By the way, I don't like you hero idea, it copies too much from DotA's Syllabear, as well as Meepo 'Poof' ability.

 

[Raging Ent]

I don't care what it is, I just feld like mentioning it.

By the way, I don't like you hero idea, it copies too much from DotA's Syllabear, as well as Meepo 'Poof' ability.

Aww well that hurts my feelings, because basically every idea (good and bad *Slark*) have been implented into dota, so coming up with something entirely new and still being good deserves a award.

Anyway, it's not a copy so "I don't care what it is".

 

[MortAr]

Mm yeah, its not a copy - its a ALMOST a copy.
Excuse me.

because basically every idea (good and bad *Slark*) have been implented into dota,

If you ever had made a little research a look at playdota and dota-allstars forums, as well as the thousand of blogs and community sites (like dota-utilities) you'll see that there's a thousands of ideas for a heroes/items/etc. but, noone of them are or will be implemented soon.

So better, cut it now before some mod w***e report the posts.

 

[Raging Ent]

Lol you're pretty damn hilarious, you know?
So far this hero uses 7 abilities, 6 are basic warcraft 3 abilities and 1 is custom which HAPPENS to look like meepo's poof.
And you're saying it's a copy?
Considering there are only so much ways to combine normal warcraft 3 abilities to synergize, making a easily created hero that has no features from any hero in any other map, is close to impossible, and yes I've seen the suggestions.. what's your point?

 

[MortAr]

Whatever, you never catch my thoughts.

 

[Raging Ent]

Because I'm so trying to do that.

Don't you ever get tired of calling every aos 'dota rip off' and every hero with roar and endurance aura (which is nothing more but a good and standard synergy) a 'syllabear / lycan ' ripoff.
Damn Far Seer, you's spawning wolves, lycan rip off!

 

[N1ghthawk]

I actually just had a few ideas that i'm going to spend tonight implementing before I put in a new hero regardless.

I'm going to make it so if a unit takes spell damage the damage is displayed above the unit in orange text.

I'm also going to make it so each hero has a "trainer" in the shops area where he can get upgrades to his abilities, attributes, and stats. I'll most likely use insignias to purchase the abilities which will now be given each level and will not be used to purchase things from the insignia vendor.

On a side note:

"You're doing it wrong".

fixed, thx mate

 

[Raging Ent]

I actually just had a few ideas that i'm going to spend tonight implementing before I put in a new hero regardless.

I'm going to make it so if a unit takes spell damage the damage is displayed above the unit in orange text.

I'm also going to make it so each hero has a "trainer" in the shops area where he can get upgrades to his abilities, attributes, and stats. I'll most likely use insignias to purchase the abilities which will now be given each level and will not be used to purchase things from the insignia vendor.

On a side note:


fixed, thx mate

Keep adding stuff and making it more complicated >.<

 

[N1ghthawk]

Just updated with damage text and a few new special buildings meant to improve gameplay.

Next update will include the re-done insignia system and new hero.

 

[buraxia3]

i like it !

 

[N1ghthawk]

thx mate