Official WarCraft IV Discussion

[Dumblor]

WoW ruined any hope for Warcraft 4?

I don't know if there are more threads about this, but if there are, mods, please delete this one.

So, do you think WoW ruined any hope for Warcraft 4, do you think that Blizzard made a huge mistake in your own right?

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[HeretoDLstuff]

I don't know if there are more threads about this , but if there are , mods , please delete this one.

So , do you think WoW ruined any hope for Warcraft 4 , do you think that Blizzard made a huge mistake in your own right ?

They allready said that if they made wc4, It would skip WoW Storyline, So probably not.

 

[SantaBla]

Blizzard gained loads of cash from WoW. It was a commercial success and therefore it was not a mistake at all.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

They allready said that if they made wc4, It would skip WoW Storyline, So probably not.

Source please, that would be a pretty huge load of info.

 

[Dumblor]

Blizzard gained loads of cash from WoW. It was a commercial success and therefore it was not a mistake at all.

If speaking about commercial succes , yes , that wasn't a mistake. But they ruined the game. The original. Instead of making Warcraft cards , they made World of Warcraft cards. Instead of making Warcraft film , they're makig World of Warcraft film. See ? Personally , to me , WoW is an abomination to the series. I grew up with Orcs and Humans. Starcraft and Diablo were the second faves in my computer. Atleast Starcraft isn't going to be MMORPG. While Warcraft is. That's why I sometimes hate Blizzard.

 

[Raigoura]

I hate World of Warcraft with a purpose and reason! You guys explained it right.

I think there is so many of these polls. But Blizzard did ruined the story for the Warcraft universe.

 

[Fulla]

Just means they have more money to invest in the development of new games such as Sc2, D3 & eventually war4.

 

[Dumblor]

Just means they have more money to invest in the development of new games such as Sc2, D3 & eventually war4.

They got loads of them. I could build another empire state building out of money they have already , and they had even before WoW was released. But "Why make another stupid strategy with load of fans , if we have a huge load of nerdy 10-years old no-life bastards who are paying as 15-dollars a month ?" They ruined the series. There's no way for another , not to mention they don't want to make it , as long as WoW brings them money. 1000000x15 = 15000000$/month.

 

[redmarine]

Actually I don't think World of Warcraft ruins anything. If it did then they could just skip all what happened in World of Warcraft and continue the story-line in Warcraft IV. So I'm Ok with both.

 

[Dumblor]

Actually I don't think World of Warcraft ruins anything. If it did then they could just skip all what happened in World of Warcraft and continue the story-line in Warcraft IV. So I'm Ok with both.

Skip ??? That would be stupid. The storyline is , in many ways , not good for a strategy anymore. And the devs are statisfied with no-lifers giving them cash , why do they need us ?

 

[HeretoDLstuff]

Source please, that would be a pretty huge load of info.

I though it was in this, at the bottom, but I couldnt find it.... I think I saw somebody post it on thehelper a while ago.. I'm not sure if I will be able to dig it up again or not.. =/

 

[Lestat(br)]

i think that WoW doesnt have an ACTUAL story, since its a MMORPG. WoW's flow in the story could be skipped, and there could be another Warcraft starting from the Arthas wielding the Crown, but I don't think that Blizzard would do it at all, it would be completely blurred by WoW. If it could be done, it would be done by fans...and just a bit of modding.

 

[~VanMavus]

WoW basically is WCIV, without a storyline, an editor... fun gaming... fun multiplay-

Yeah they screwed up. It's a good turnout for them, I bought it and hated it from the time of installation. 12gb+ of wasted space.

WoW has no storyline, oh other then the Eredar falling from the sky and the blood elves making a massive town overnight.

If another Warcraft RTS is made, please god let them realise there mistake and give us an original story for once in our lives. Something that WoW doesn't impact the story of and something that doesn't impact the story of WoW. That way all the noobs over there won't complain that an RTS destroyed their 'amazing' gaming experience.

 

[The_wand_mirror]

Omg a dimensional ship that crashes on azeroth

Wtf are those Draenei? Aliens? =p

 

[Dumblor]

Omg a dimensional ship that crashes on azeroth

Wtf are those Draenei? Aliens? =p

Well , about Draenei , they were featured in WC3TFT. But a interdimensional ship of sorts...

 

[~VanMavus]

Actually they're an evolved form of Eredar... which I wonder. Or vice versa, but it's crazy in... the how many year gap in time between WCIII and WoW... lets say it's about 50 they grew tentacley beards, nice skin tone, moo moo legs... What did they hit a reactor in space?

 

[Dumblor]

Actually they're an evolved form of Eredar... which I wonder. Or vice versa, but it's crazy in... the how many year gap in time between WCIII and WoW... lets say it's about 50 they grew tentacley beards, nice skin tone, moo moo legs... What did they hit a reactor in space?

Actually it's about five years , but the draenei of TFT are the broken ones.

 

[terradont]

WoW

Yep, the playable Draenei's in wow left Azeroth many years before Wc3 to escape their relatives, the Eredar. I really truly HATE the Draenei in wow, they are ugly and not cool as they were in wc3(one of my fav-races). I mean, look at Akama!

Anyway, wow ruined the story completely, with bosses that shouldn't be killed such as illidan and no story whatsoever, just that the burning crusade suddenly felt that they should attack again since the last time went so great, and the horde and alliance just broke through the demon gate and conquered outland.

What...Is...That...Supposed...To...Mean?
I hope that blizz will to a Wc4, but erase the "story" from wow.

 

[Dr Super Good]

WoW is fine if its the only game you play and you play it a lot. If not then it is too expensive.

 

[JetFangInferno]

WoW is a mindless grinding game but its amazing visuals and source of escapism and means of communication captivates millions of players all over the world. I myself would play the game if it were more like Warcraft instead of an MMORPG. Warcraft 4 would never happen because if you owned blizzard, would you rather rake up tons of cash from an already successful game or would you please a perhaps smaller majority of players who would want a Warcraft 4? I would personally love to see a Warcraft 4 but it just won't happen.

 

[punwisp]

Those dreanei are a different kind of dreanei, not the same ones in Outland. When Outland was changing, so did a big flock of dreanei, so the uneffective ones kinda abandoned the chaning ones or "lost ones" Until recently.

 

[~Void~]

Blizzard gained loads of cash from WoW. It was a commercial success and therefore it was not a mistake at all.

It wasn't a mistake but that doesn't make it less of a shitty game.

 

[Dumblor]

It wasn't a mistake but that doesn't make it less of a shitty game.

Agreed... I mean , no-lifers (i don't say everybody who plays wow is no-lifer) like mmorpg's , such as the shity Linage 2 (look at the dwarwen males and females...) etc... The only mmorpg I found somewhat enjoying was Guild Wars Nightfall..

I find MMORPG's and Pornography quite similiar , they're both cheap and quick source of money from a bunch of people.... And most of them are success.

( I read it in some forums...)

 

[Lich_king2]

Blizzard co-founder Frank Pearce told VG247 as Games Convention that a fourth WarCraft game could be a next project for the firm, provided one of the company’s current teams was interested in making it.

“If there’s a team that’s passionate about doing another WarCraft RTS, then that’s definitely something we would consider,” he said.

Don’t get dressed up in your favourite orc costume just yet, though: Blizzard’s major development units are a tad busy at the moment.

“It’s nothing that we’re working on right now,” Pearce assured.

“We have development teams working on Wrath of the Lich King, StarCraft II, Diablo III, and when those teams are all off the projects they’re working on, they’ll be intimately involved in the the discussions about what’s next.”

Just imagine WarCraft IV, eh? Just imagine that.

Hehe im stunned.

 

[Rui]

Where did you get that from?

I do hope they consider Warcraft IV, since Warcraft was their best creation so far, in my opinion.

 

[Lich_king2]

videogaming247 Blog Archive Pearce: Warcraft IV is “definitely something we would consider”
http://play.tm/story/21208

i can say that i got informed about this in morning trough email which later has been posted on bigger game news boards and which is now a news.

 

[Linaze]

Agreed with Rui, Warcraft is their best creation in my opinion too, since I don't like all this futurustic crap, well but that's me. (Diablo was also damn nice but no RTS).

 

[Lich_king2]

Same for me.Warcraft is born like RTS and should return to be RTS.Also when the Starcraft II team finish game in November this year,the one RTS team will be used for general discussion about next game which will be warcraft which we will hear about 2009 July.
Edit:More news comming soon.
Edit2:Strange but i dont know why earlier today edit was bugged like if there was no link to it,but now is all ok,sorry for double post.

 

[Rui]

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[LordDz]

Well, don't go overhappy yet, they still need to release Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3..

 

[Andriejj]

Well, don't go overhappy yet, they still need to release Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3..

And Wrath of the Lich King, and expansions for SC2 and D3. And their next-gen MMORPG.

 

[The Last Istari]

Still, Warcraft IV would be undeniable proof that there is a God.

 

[Steel_Stallion]

I'm a bit Lol at people here going like "Wc3 is definitly their best creation yet"

Well DUH, everyone here thinks that. This is a Warcraft III modding site, I for one think World of Warcraft was their "Best" creation because it got them filthy fuckin stickin rich! But in terms for actual gameplay, ya... Wc3.


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[Traxamillion]

I wish they would have considered this before starcraft 2. IMO warcraft is a much better story and personally i think fantasy RTS' are much better than futureistic ones.

 

[LordDz]

And Wrath of the Lich King, and expansions for SC2 and D3. And their next-gen MMORPG.

I didn't count that in as it's being released atm?

 

[Lich_king2]

Anyway people we have a hope

 

[ShiroiSenji]

Warcraft 4

I have founded some several rumors that some of blizzards teams, guys said that he could start making Warcraft 4. Same old RTS, its really going to be sweet.
Warcraft 4 Confirmed, Starcraft 2 to be a Trilogy | Arreat Summit | GAMERIOT | HellForge | Diablo 3

BEWARE I NEVER SAID ITS 100%, but atleast 40% sure.

 

[rober artua]

I hope they will make Wc4 some day ! Wc is their best creation ever .

 

[brad.dude03]

Please don't ressurect old threads. More recent news has been posted about WCIV.

 

[Shaki]

Warcraft 4!

This is a guess, but on the blizzard employment page it has "unannounced" and blizzard has already announced All the games new versions. such as Star Craft 2 Diablo III WoW: Wotlk, but not warcraft. we can only expect that that is actually warcraft 4 hiding in the blizzard entertainment page.

 

[Gundam_Siege]

Warcraft 4 possibilty?

I was searching the internet and found this on VGB:

Blizzard’s VP of game design, Rob Pardo, was asked about the possibility of the developer creating the next Warcraft 4 real-time strategy (RTS) game in the popular series. While the MMORPG World of Warcraft has over 10 million subscribers, the franchise started out in the RTS genre, so will it be returning to its RTS roots? In an interview from last year he answered:

“Yeah, of course there’s a chance,” he confirmed. “The way that we develop things, each time a development team becomes available, because they’re done with creating the games that they’ve been doing, they have a lot of say over what their next game is. So what it would take is for one of our teams to decide that they want to make Warcraft RTS and of course, there’ll be some talk about doing that and I’m sure after StarCraft 2 ships, it will be one the ideas on the table for that team to do, but that’s pretty far off in the future and it would really be determined by a combination of the dev team and the company leadership.”

Mr. Pardo continued: “I think that one of the things that makes us ultimately successful as a company is that we’re more lead by our game-making decisions and not so much by business decisions, which is one of the reasons why this question used to be the StarCraft question. Back when we did StarCraft, we did Brood War, and everyone thought they were amazing games; they were successful and I used to get all these questions like, “Why are you doing another Warcraft RTS, shouldn’t you be doing StarCraft?” Well Warcraft was what the team wanted to make, they were burned out on the StarCraft universe, that was the game they wanted to make and as far as Warcraft goes, we love the universe – it’s an amazingly successful universe. If we want to go back and do it, maybe we will, maybe we won’t.”

But then again, it could be a stupid rumor some cheapskate made up to get us all excited, which wouldn't surprise me as this was from June 15 of 2008.

Here's the page just to prove it: http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2008/06/15/warcraft-4-release-far-in-the-future.htm

 

[Dark Master]

Nice. But there is CHANCE. Chance is nothing.

 

[JimBob]

What do you want in Warcraft 4?

I haven't seen a thread talk about this yet, but than again I haven't been here in a while. What do you want in Warcraft 4? Please, this isn't about what story you want, so don't talk about that. What are some things you want to see in Warcraft 4, like gameplay, graphics wise, Map editor wise... Yea, we got quite a while before the game comes out but, hey, it gives us plenty of time to think of what we want in WC4.

1. I would like to see a faster paced action game that still revolves around heroes.
2. The same 4 factions from WC3.
3. I would like them to add another faction with each expansion.
4. Two expansions.
5. Naval Warfare.
6. A better and more simple Map Editor which is expected.
7. Darker tone- story and graphics wise, yet I doubt they will do that, so I'm not counting on it.
8. A Market system kind of like Age of Empires.
9. Random generated terrain which includes trees..., in the Editor for people who are lazy, like me, sometimes.
10. I would like to see trees or mushrooms as something that is added with the terrain like it was in WC2 instead of it being a doodad. It would make things easier that way. However, I would still like to have trees be a doodad as well.
11. Decals or logos, like what they're doing for SC2.
12. A Higher cap, however, not as high as SC2 or it kind of takes the whole point of heroes away.
13. More team colors to choose from including black and white.

Well, thats all I got so far. What do you guys want?

 

[takakenji]

i want warcraft 4 to happen

 

[JimBob]

i want warcraft 4 to happen

What makes you think it won't happen? Of course it will happen, just not until they finish the last part of the SC2 trilogy. But really, what do you want to see in WC4?

 

[takakenji]

it's not going to happen because WoW is continueing the warcraft series. Though, I would't mind a world of starcraft :O

 

[JimBob]

WoW will eventually come to an end. You do realize that they are making another MMO, right? Why? To replace WoW. The MMO is suppose to be a whole new franchise as well. See, there is still room for WC4.

 

[rcshaggy]

Blood Elves joining the Horde, High Elves being accepted into the Alliance, and so on.
I actually wanna see if some of the Theramore residents are pissed off about Admiral Proudmoore being killed, and High Elves joining them for the first time, and some other races as well. Well I was very interested in Rexxar's Campaign so yah.

I really love the Blood Elves and High Elves. I hope they have a battle as well, and i hope for the Goblins, Ogres, and Forest Trolls join the Horde like they did in Warcraft II.

 

[L2love]

Note warcraft 4 wont happen for quite a long time.

But i want to see some awesome story and actually nice terrains and models not shitty one because the campaign isn't for bnet.

 

[takakenji]

i want realistic sized buildings and units