Warcraft 4?

[brad.dude03]

I had a Level 38 Orc Warrior on the Durotan server before I quit. I don't like WoW, am I justified yet?

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

I just hope everyone who thinks WOW has destroyed WC has actually played it. I don't mean tried it or played a few times, I mean got to at least level 30 or so. Although if you have then you have all the right to bash it or whatever you are doing

I just hope whoever thinks scientology is bullshit has been a scientologist before. I mean, ignore what they say about "fair game" and their illegal activities, just become a scientologist yourself before you criticize it.

 

[Gilles]

You are justified then brad!

Myspace your logic isn't quite right there. I use my reason to figure out that it is bullshit. Also WOW and scientology are on two different levels, I can read and learn about scientology and then say what I think about it, where as WOW you can do all the reading you want but you can't critique it nearly as well if you actually played it.

Poor analogy.

 

[Elenai]

Actually the analogy is correct. They are both things that if you know enough about them, then you can say "I dont like it, just look at the lore .....screwed up..." You are also justified if you've played the other warcraft games and notice that the quality in WoW is a mere shadow of what the warcraft series once was.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

Scientology and WoW are not different at all. In fact, WoW is probably MORE justified to criticize without playing, because we can read up on WoW lore all we want wherever the hell we want, while scientologists like to sue people to keep their documents nice and secret.

 

[Gilles]

How do you notice the quality? I guess from a lore point or a landscape? But the lore is there and the landscapes are pretty good in WOW (my opinion, so you could say you hate it... you point is correct there). The actual game play can't be criticized unless you play it. I guess you can read reviews but then it's not your own opinion.

I can't say Scientology is boring or it sucks. That's the key. I can say WOW is fake or not true, wait of course it is! Scientologists say it is real, I look at it and say it's not. That's the difference. To say Scientology is boring I would have to try it first, to say it's not true I just have to look at it. Same with WOW.

 

[Elenai]

Ok I see exactly were this is going. TAKE the scientology arguments to Medivhs tower.

Back on the issue of Warcraft4 what would you like to see in the form of buildings and base planning or map environments.

 

[Gilles]

Haha, way to save the thread.

I hope they really improve the movement around buildings. Like DOW does it. All buildings have a distance to other buildings and units (Except tanks) can walk between buildings! Also maybe some movement options, like if anyone has played the old (crappy) Star Wars RTS. You can choose from different army formations. Lastly I noticed Starcraft 2 finally made it so you can select all your units at once. Which all the Blizzard RTSs lacked.

 

[Elenai]

I would like turnable buildings, and customizable units/heroes and buildings.

 

[Gilles]

Why turnable? Customizable like colors? Or spells, health, damage, armor, ect.?

 

[Elenai]

I mean you can turn the buildings to face a direction before you build them, and I mean customizable like, Change parts of the model to suit you like the head or shield or armour style, the look of a buildings tower or roof, ect.

 

[Gilles]

Wow, that's a lot to hope for =P Then again it is blizzard they have never failed to make revolutionary games.

 

[DarkKnight]

Warcraft IV.. hmm.. How about it not being a RTS, but RPG, or a totally new gengre... (please let it not be a racing game ^^)

And if it is going to be a RTS, then a custom race would be realy cool ^^, (or atleast bein able to custimize one), oh and don't forget, wearable armor! (and a good melee, becouse the one from WCIII sucked in my oppinion)

 

[Elenai]

Thats sounds nice...

So to summarize.

Highly customizable:
Better gameplay:
Interactive Environments:
Flexible unit/building control:
New races:

 

[DarkKnight]

able to go from one map to another, campaign like, but then also in multi player ^^, Maby even able to dig, and then I don't mean like, here is the abillity dig, you use it, and there is a heap of dirt, No I mean, real room's chopping out (and that could be used for mining ^^) And then also the posibillity of flight, in a seperate map, you fly up, you see a picture of the map underneath you (or just cloads) and then you might build there... (sorry if my imagination goes too far ^^)

 

[Elenai]

I would rather Warcraft not become an rpg, at least not the fourth one.

 

[Gilles]

Same here, I like RTS, although I haven't played a good RPG in a while. Last one was Fable.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

Moreover, you don't make the sequel to a game a game of an entirely different genre. That's why Man invented the spinoff, ladies and gents.

 

[Rui]

It's ok if Warcraft IV is another mix of RPG and RTS, since Warcraft III turned out to be good in that aspect.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

I agree with Rui on that point, the campaign was good but general melee sucks though.

 

[DarkKnight]

Yea a RTS RPG mix is good ^^, but wel, I heard people say on this topic that Blizzard wouldn't take Warcraft to RTS again, so... and they've also taken warcraft to MMORPG wich is a totally different genre, but I do hope it's going to be RTS again, but then much and much and much better ^^.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

I hope they make something like warcraft adventures, but more up to date. Adventure games are the best.

 

[Tyranid]

I have high doubts about Warcraft 4 because WoW pretty much has turned the lore into a wierd tornado of chaos. It's just wierd now.

Also a RTS/RPG mix would be boring since the heroes in WC 3 could easily become the dominant force and also the upkeep in WC 3 was stupid. I prefer the kind of massive armies that are in SC 1 and Dawn of War.

 

[DarkKnight]

jup, the upkeep prevented me from conquering a map with only frost wyrms ^^.

 

[Gilles]

I hate when RTS games let you just max the best unit and win, I also don't care for air in games all that much, but in SC I find there area enough things to kill air, Warcraft3 was lame with air. All the strong land units couldn't attack air and so if you max air you win!

 

[DarkKnight]

Night elf air versus Undead air, who would win?

 

[lordgriffen]

Hmmm... Undead I would expect. It mostly depends on the numbers.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

Who would win? Protoss corsairs, duh.

 

[Parrothead]

Wc4 announced, demo vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2b1D5w82yU

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

it's a tRick!

 

[Rui]

Wc4 announced, demo vid

Yeah wc4 all of a sudden. Quit it.

Who would win? Protoss corsairs, duh.

No comments.

It all depends on the type of air they brought.


Melee in Warcraft III is ok, yet I don't like mass air.

Also a RTS/RPG mix would be boring since the heroes in WC 3 could easily become the dominant force

Is it just me or you don't get Warcraft III is a mix of RTS and RPG? And heroes are not the dominant force, they are simply meant to make a difference.

 

[DarkKnight]

And I've found a pretty cool game that is a mix of RPG and RTS: Spellforce

 

[lordgriffen]

I own that game already. I've played. It has no custom maps though...

 

[DarkKnight]

I know, that was te bad part about it, if you couldn't get further into the mission, goodby fun, or you should do multiplayer...

 

[lordgriffen]

Also, it's hard to find new units. I found a glitch sorta (idk how it works) to get infinite Gold. I went to the first shop and bought the Troll worker rune, and it gave me 99 gold, silver, and copper. It was AWESOME.

 

[DarkKnight]

lol ^^ sounds interresting...

 

[lordgriffen]

You could buy anything you wanted, but you couldn't use it all - I bought up to level five in all of the Black Magic spells he had.

 

[DarkKnight]

Ah yes, I totally based myself on Necromancy.

 

[suddath]

Ausome

it would be so ausome if they make a warcraft 4 because i dont have world of warcraft. So i wont have 2 worry about it.

 

[DarkKnight]

lol, don't buy WoW, It's realy throwing away money, wait for better games such as Renaissance, or WC4 ^^ And Welcome to the Hive Workshop, maby you should post in the introduction forums?

 

[Gilles]

A lot of people on here seem to dislike wow

 

[DarkKnight]

That is becouse it sucks ^^

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

Any game that demands that you pay monthly is the devil to me. It's like the Second Life only more life ruiny

 

[brad.dude03]

Except Second Life is even shittier than WoW.

 

[anetherond]

WOW isn't "sucks". It's not wonderful but it isn't bad too. I don't know about other people but I think that WOW added many good things to the original lore. Actually, if you ignore its MMOGS nature and the new upcoming expansion (Very bad idea, Blizzard), you can say that WOW is a very good game.

 

[Rui]

I don't like WoW because you have to pay monthly, yet millions of people play it.

 

[Jaakko]

I don't like WoW because you have to pay monthly.

Me neither, and that's why I have never played it.

 

[DarkKnight]

I don't like wow becouse indeed you have to pay monthly, it ruins the lore in my oppinion, and is mostly level grinding if I'm right...

 

[Hawkwing]

I love WoW it's a really fun game.. But they have for sure ruined the lore. If you have the money than why not play.

 

[anetherond]

Why all of you think that WOW have ruined the lore? Just becuase few of the famous characters "dies" (I still think they not exactley dead) dosen't mean the lore is ruined. I still think that WOW contributed more to the lore then damaged it.