Chaos Champions RPG: III

[relaxkinggg]

I really like the added voice-overs in the cinematics and non-cinematics which helped enhance in the immersion of my playthrough. I also enjoyed the moderate-lengthed gameplay and the multitude of quality-of-life features which have been further improvised from existing maps.

I never thought that you could use a mini-tornado as a teleportation portal. Many map curators would have opted to use a typical TP pad instead. The terrain is beautiful, well-executed and minimal map-wastage. What intrigued me more was the initial glimmer when entering a newly discovered area and the color of it which represented the area's hostility/neutrality.

A small complaint of mine, you might want to consider keeping the hero summoning stones side-by-side. I realized I could only choose the dreadlord when I moved the kodo next to stone #2. As such, I felt the fake portal between the summoning stones was quite redundant since you'd be TP'ed to the starting location anyway. Perhaps 3 summoning stones sorted by primary attributes might be better too?

Nonetheless, I'm grateful to have chanced upon this map of yours and I look forward to more of your projects. Stay healthy and take care.

Rating: 4.8/5

 

[deepstrasz]

1. O'grosh conductor can be easily beaten as he casts Ensnare and then just stands still if you're far enough. Also, he sleeps at night. Not sure if intended.
2. Dummy silver gates (that lead to some place you can get without needing to open that door) aren't fun; it costs 1k gold to open one.
3. No way to dodge Obsideon's meteors and you can't heal with the stones. You need to leave some inventory room for potions.
4. Hero selected when meeting Korgash.
5. So, I was fighting the centaur and golem bosses and I suddenly found myself dead. Not sure how to dodge that. OK, so there's a patch of land to stay on if you can reach it in time if not slowed. Seems random; save-load trial and error. Found the info in the quest log about opposite elements but it's still a lot of saving and loading.
6. Not sure if intended but the Purging Stones and Obsidian Watchers appeared again. As well as the Kor'gul ward. They constantly reappear after destroying them. Crap, the zone's been locked by rock chunks too.
7. The last boss' attack animation looks bad since it can't move and attacks with its back.
8. Some issues with Precious; you can snipe the thing from a annex room to the arena. Also, the changed camera remains.
9. Attached some pathing issue pictures.
10. 

A neatly made brawler RPG with no multiplayer but with solo replayability. Too bad it doesn't really have any story.

Approved.

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[Gray_Fox]

1. O'grosh conductor can be easily beaten as he casts Ensnare and then just stands still if you're far enough. Also, he sleeps at night. Not sure if intended.
2. Dummy silver gates (that lead to some place you can get without needing to open that door) aren't fun; it costs 1k gold to open one.
3. No way to dodge Obsideon's meteors and you can't heal with the stones. You need to leave some inventory room for potions.
4. Hero selected when meeting Korgash.
5. So, I was fighting the centaur and golem bosses and I suddenly found myself dead. Not sure how to dodge that. OK, so there's a patch of land to stay on if you can reach it in time if not slowed. Seems random; save-load trial and error. Found the info in the quest log about opposite elements but it's still a lot of saving and loading.
6. Not sure if intended but the Purging Stones and Obsidian Watchers appeared again. As well as the Kor'gul ward. They constantly reappear after destroying them. Crap, the zone's been locked by rock chunks too.
7. The last boss' attack animation looks bad since it can't move and attacks with its back.
8. Some issues with Precious; you can snipe the thing from a annex room to the arena. Also, the changed camera remains.
9. Attached some pathing issue pictures.
10. View attachment 446733View attachment 446734View attachment 446735View attachment 446736View attachment 446737View attachment 446738

A neatly made brawler RPG with no multiplayer but with solo replayability. Too bad it doesn't really have any story.

Approved.

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Description Guide - Maps
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Map Description Generator [1.2]

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A Beginner's Guide to Map Making
The Ultimate Beginners Terrain Tutorial
Advanced Terraining Tutorial
A Guideline to Terraining and the Hive's Terraining Section
Various Terraining Tips!
Basic Mapping Video Tutorial
WE Map Editor for Newbies!
The Path Of Proper Map Making - What to do and what should be avoided

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How to create Melee Maps
General - Melee Maps like the Professionals
Competitive Melee Map
Melee mapping - The reasons behind common aspects of competitive 1v1 maps
Melee Do's and Dont's

PATHING
Pathing - Everything about it
[Terraining] Alternative Pathing Technique

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I really like the added voice-overs in the cinematics and non-cinematics which helped enhance in the immersion of my playthrough. I also enjoyed the moderate-lengthed storyline and the multitude of quality-of-life features which have been further improvised from existing maps.

I never thought that you could use a mini-tornado as a teleportation portal. Many map curators would have opted to use a typical TP pad instead. The terrain is beautiful, well-executed and minimal map-wastage. What intrigued me more was the initial glimmer when entering a newly discovered area and the color of it which represented the area's hostility/neutrality.

A small complaint of mine, you might want to consider keeping the hero summoning stones side-by-side. I realized I could only choose the dreadlord when I moved the kodo next to stone #2. As such, I felt the fake portal between the summoning stones was quite redundant since you'd be TP'ed to the starting location anyway. Perhaps 3 summoning stones sorted by primary attributes might be better too?

Nonetheless, I'm grateful to have chanced upon this map of yours and I look forward to more of your projects. Stay healthy and take care.

Rating: 4.8/5

Thank you once again Deepstrasz for the Approval and review
And thank you aswell Relaxkinggg. I'm glad you enjoyed it!

Will update soon with fixes for the mentioned issues and adjustments based on feedback, thank you very much for pointing out and providing the screenshots. That helps out alot!

 

[VanAndro]

This is information that is unnecessary at this stage but may prove useful at a later stage.

Chaos Champions 1 and 2 had no problems with 1.27 and Rebirth 8. However, Chaos Champions 3 must be played on a "clean" installation because under Rebirth when loading the map, the error "Not enough memory" is received.

 

[Bodregg]

This was a really, REALLY fun map, and it's interesting to see the very clear and distinct improvements made in each Chaos Champions map!
The new potion system is a MASSIVE improvement over its previous iteration. Additionally, the first boss in this map is way more engaging and less frustrating than those of the previous two installments (the first map's unavoidable projectiles, and the second map's cramped arena coupled with AoE stuns), which was my biggest gripe with both of them. Runes are fun, though I wish that there were a UI element to indicate how many casts of the current rune are left. Perhaps it could be added to the upper right panel. Also, the use of AI voiceacting was surprising, but added quite a bit to the moments of downtime to keep things from ever feeling hollow.
I did notice a problem with cutscenes. The default button to skip a cutscene is Escape - so if you have a rune equipped, attempting to skip a cutscene will eat a charge. Also, the cutscene after the Primal boss is not skippable; pressing Escape will instead skip the dialogue and leave the rest playing in awkward silence. I have not tested if this also happens with any other cutscenes.
There were also other fringe issues and oversights. If you manage to kill the second boss while it is in the animation of shattering your healthstone, the attack will still play out after the fight ends. After you pick up all of the fragments, you won't actually be given your healthstone back, completely crippling the rest of your run. Also, the boss will come back invisible and untargetable to start smacking you, but he leashes pretty quickly so that part isn't too relevant. Other than that, there were a few spots I noticed you could clip out of the playable area and run around in the out of bounds. The attached picture is one of them.

There was also a spot you could walk out of the final boss' arena into the doodads behind it (not sure if it's possible in the first phase), as well as the ability for the Naga hero to just swim out of the final boss arena and go pretty much anywhere in the map.
Aside from that, the only real little thing to mention is that it's not really clear what a few of the cheats in the tome you get after beating the map actually do.

 

[Gray_Fox]

This was a really, REALLY fun map, and it's interesting to see the very clear and distinct improvements made in each Chaos Champions map!
The new potion system is a MASSIVE improvement over its previous iteration. Additionally, the first boss in this map is way more engaging and less frustrating than those of the previous two installments (the first map's unavoidable projectiles, and the second map's cramped arena coupled with AoE stuns), which was my biggest gripe with both of them. Runes are fun, though I wish that there were a UI element to indicate how many casts of the current rune are left. Perhaps it could be added to the upper right panel. Also, the use of AI voiceacting was surprising, but added quite a bit to the moments of downtime to keep things from ever feeling hollow.
I did notice a problem with cutscenes. The default button to skip a cutscene is Escape - so if you have a rune equipped, attempting to skip a cutscene will eat a charge. Also, the cutscene after the Primal boss is not skippable; pressing Escape will instead skip the dialogue and leave the rest playing in awkward silence. I have not tested if this also happens with any other cutscenes.
There were also other fringe issues and oversights. If you manage to kill the second boss while it is in the animation of shattering your healthstone, the attack will still play out after the fight ends. After you pick up all of the fragments, you won't actually be given your healthstone back, completely crippling the rest of your run. Also, the boss will come back invisible and untargetable to start smacking you, but he leashes pretty quickly so that part isn't too relevant. Other than that, there were a few spots I noticed you could clip out of the playable area and run around in the out of bounds. The attached picture is one of them.
View attachment 448521
There was also a spot you could walk out of the final boss' arena into the doodads behind it (not sure if it's possible in the first phase), as well as the ability for the Naga hero to just swim out of the final boss arena and go pretty much anywhere in the map.
Aside from that, the only real little thing to mention is that it's not really clear what a few of the cheats in the tome you get after beating the map actually do.

Thank you very much!
I'm glad you enjoyed it!

And thank you for pointing out some of the issues and the suggestions. I'll get to work on these as soon as I can!

Edit: I fixed some of the pathing issues, disabled runes during cutscenes and changed the times when 2nd Boss goes into the air. It shouldn't be possible to kill him before he flies up now. (Unless you are using cheats!)

I've also added a UI element into the command board for Rune charges. Thanks for the suggestion

 

[Rufus]

I really liked this, well done! Beautiful terrain aswell

 

[Ardenaso]

just found out about this now, I love ORPGs !