Blizzard's Bugged Resources

[Shade Da Scout]

a LOT about changes between beta and final

 

[NhazUl]

Some more.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Indeed the steam tank had a wrecking ball, I even had the model somewhere on my pc along with other beta models, such as the tauren with ball and chain.

Also, Blizzard hid some model animations by naming the sequences "bla". The Infernal Cannon is one example (blaSpell), while the pandaren elementals have their death and dissipate animations (need confirmation, don't have War3x.mpq at the moment) renames just "bla" and thus not displayed ingame.

Abilities\Spells\Orc\Berserker\Berserkertarget.mdx is a bugged model which cannot open in most model editors. I have examined it in MDLVis though, and I think I even managed to display it in-game.

1) Oh really? Pray tell, could you perchance find the Beta "Minotaur" model? I'd really be interested in collecting it, and I'm sure others would as well.

2) Definitely. Actually, that would make for some easy modding; just go into Magos and rename the animations and voila, usable units.

3) So what did it look like!?

 

[Dawn]

This has turned out to be one interesting thread.

 

[Shade Da Scout]

Some "theories":
Archmage was on foot with a sword (his skin still contains a sword as a possble proof), no screenshot evidence so that was probably just an idea

art

Revenant was an undead unit called "death knight"
there are many screenshots on scrollsoflore.com
just a theory, since it says "Revenant (previously Death Knight)"
and another one

before lich there was a "Cold Wraith" (I guess because it's "cold")
model
art
screenshot in model editor
his death and decay spell-can't find it...cold wraith is floating in air with some red circles on ground

 

[Kaizer]

I was bored

P.S. wall may seem darker for you, but works perfectly ingame (tested)

 

[Xonok]

Some more.

Many things in here look much better than current version in my opinion.

Some "theories":
Archmage was on foot with a sword (his skin still contains a sword as a possble proof), no screenshot evidence so that was probably just an idea

art

Revenant was an undead unit called "death knight"
there are many screenshots on scrollsoflore.com
just a theory, since it says "Revenant (previously Death Knight)"
and another one

before lich there was a "Cold Wraith" (I guess because it's "cold")
model
art
screenshot in model editor
his death and decay spell-can't find it...cold wraith is floating in air with some red circles on ground

Btw, there's a model that is very similar to original archmage. http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/elvenarchcleric-48586/?prev=search%3Darchcleric%26d%3Dlist%26r%3D20

 

[NhazUl]

1) Oh really? Pray tell, could you perchance find the Beta "Minotaur" model? I'd really be interested in collecting it, and I'm sure others would as well.

2) Definitely. Actually, that would make for some easy modding; just go into Magos and rename the animations and voila, usable units.

3) So what did it look like!?

1) The model, along with the War3 beta and other alpha models (they were not in the beta) was on my old HDD which died. I can request them from the guy who fund and collected them in the first place.

2) Yes.

3) It's composed of many billboarded green glow planes which rotate around a point in a quite elaborate manner. If the model were to be fixed and adorned with ribbons, it'd become something really sweet.

Also, mind your tone, will you?

Btw, now I notice that the shield on the War3 alpha knights uses the texture which is now on the Scroll of Protection SFX model.

 

[Dr Super Good]

The Dread Lord skin still has his original dress in it.

The Dread Lord also still uses the original pissed sound files. The result is some of them making no sense at all.

"This is not a dress, its the standard Dread Lord uniform."
"Dress to kill, blah!" (kind of makes sense, but is more funny if he wore a dress)

 

[Shade Da Scout]

1) The model, along with the War3 beta and other alpha models (they were not in the beta) was on my old HDD which died. I can request them from the guy who fund and collected them in the first place.

Get 'em!Jump on 'em!
Request him pls
me wantz beta necromancer and skeletons

 

[NhazUl]

Later, I have exams now. Btw, alpha (not beta) necros and skeletons are not available.

 

[GreeN!X]

I like the icon borders more in this screenshot:

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[General Frank]

I like the icon borders more in this screenshot:

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I just saw that there is no actual wood. It is 'health stone'?

 

[Rui]

Good exercise, interesting reading. =P

 

[Shade Da Scout]

btw, alpha (not beta) necros and skeletons are not available.

D:

damn..

 

[GreeN!X]

I just saw that there is no actual wood. It is 'health stone'?

I guess each race has different food and lumber icons. Blizz should have kept it that was. I think it would have been cooler.

 

[General Frank]

I guess each race has different food and lumber icons. Blizz should have kept it that was. I think it would have been cooler.

Damn right. Just like in StarCraft.

 

[NhazUl]

I remember reading in a magazine that the resource for the undead was corpses.

Btw, I know we're in the modeling forum, but if I were to find the beta again, could some JASS-er rip the corpse explosion ability from it? It's quite useful.

 

[Hallfiry]

I just saw that there is no actual wood. It is 'health stone'?

Resource development:

September 1999 : Gold & Units/Supply(?)
Jan 00 - Sep 00: Gold
Oct?00 - Feb?01: Gold & Units/Supply
Mar 00 - Sep 01: Gold & Units/Supply & Mana Stones
Oct 00 - Dec?01: Gold & Units/Supply & Mana Stones & Lumber
Jan 02 - Today : Gold & Units/Supply & Lumber

 

[Rui]

You sure know a lot about the Beta

 

[Hallfiry]

You sure know a lot about the Beta

Maybe.

I remember reading in a magazine that the resource for the undead was corpses.

PC Accelerator - April 2000, page 22 (and some other magazines, too)

 

[NhazUl]

Well, you sent the article to me, so you would remember.

 

[Rui]

I really do mean that, you seem to know everything there is to know about Wc3 Beta. Inside sources or just fanaticism? ;D

 

[GreeN!X]

What if Hallfiry is actually a blizzard agent and is just pretending to be a modder so that they can gain intel on what were doing with their WE. :O

 

[Hallfiry]

I really do mean that, you seem to know everything there is to know about Wc3 Beta. Inside sources or just fanaticism? ;D

I don't really have inside sources. I'm just a passionate and thorough researcher and seem to be good at locating sources.

What if Hallfiry is actually a blizzard agent and is just pretending to be a modder so that they can gain intel on what were doing with their WE. :O

When did I become a (pretend-)modder?

 

[Kyrbi0]

1) The model, along with the War3 beta and other alpha models (they were not in the beta) was on my old HDD which died. I can request them from the guy who fund and collected them in the first place.

Oh cool. While I have collected many of them, I'd be really interested to see whatcha got. : )

3) It's composed of many billboarded green glow planes which rotate around a point in a quite elaborate manner. If the model were to be fixed and adorned with ribbons, it'd become something really sweet.

Hum, that's really cool. Someone should throw that out to the Modelling Request forum.

Also, mind your tone, will you?

Sorry, was just being silly. Meant to throw a smiley-face or something; wasn't meant to be rude. :<

 

[Hallfiry]

I'm surprised, the 1.00 cannon tower wasn't mentioned, yet. Four muzzles is quite a weird thing

Also: How about the texture for the walking Frost Wyrm (ingame from May 2000 untill ~January 2001), that is used for the TFT main menu (the spiked back of a creature that sometimes appears in the sea)?

 

[GreeN!X]

When did I become a (pretend-)modder?

I dunno, the conspiracy guy within me just said so.

 

[General Frank]

I'm surprised, the 1.00 cannon tower wasn't mentioned, yet. Four muzzles is quite a weird thing

Also: How about the texture for the walking Frost Wyrm (ingame from May 2000 untill ~January 2001), that is used for the TFT main menu (the spiked back of a creature that sometimes appears in the sea)?

Four muzzles? Please elaborate.

 

[NhazUl]

The early model of the cannon tower had four cannons, one on each side.

 

[GreeN!X]

The early model of the cannon tower had four cannons, one on each side.

Hmm.. How I imagine it, I think the one muzzle looks better. I thought it was something like this when they first mentioned four muzzle.

)

 

[Laercio]

Hmm.. How I imagine it, I think the one muzzle looks better. I thought it was something like this when they first mentioned four muzzle.

)

LOL

I don't have a screenshot, but I do remember the Canon Tower having four cannons, each one pointing a different direction, though the one above is really funnier

 

[icewolf055]

Duno if this has been mentioned or not but still i'd give a shot :

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[sniper_zero]

I think I've found another bug. If you look at DoomDeath's sound object, you'll see that it's sound plays at 1033 even though its only sequence goes from 2133 to 2633. Thus, if you export it and import it, no sound will play. Plus, the sound associated with it in Magos is wrong. The DoomTarget sound is the one that plays when you try to fix the sequence. I haven't found where DoomDeath's actual sound is located.

EDIT: Found it. It's actually Incinerate's sound effect that should be playing.

 

[Deolrin]

The Space Orc Marine is named "ChaosSpaceOrc" in the files. Additionally, its skin is colored a very strange variation of green, with yellow eyes, which is unusual for Orcish units. It also has strange tattoo-like lines on its face which are common among Fel Orc textures. Finally, I found this image on the Starcraft Wiki:
http://images.wikia.com/starcraft/images/7/7b/SpaceFelOrc_WC3_Game1.jpg
(Dated 2008)
All of these seem to point to the fact that the Space Orc Marine used to be a Fel Orc, for some reason. An interesting, but probably useless fact.

By the way - did anyone actually ever get their hands on that Necropolis model?
http://www.scrollsoflore.com/gallery/albums/war3_prerelease/113.jpg
I would LOVE to have it. It looks extremely sweet.

 

[General Frank]

The Space Orc Marine is named "ChaosSpaceOrc" in the files. Additionally, its skin is colored a very strange variation of green, with yellow eyes, which is unusual for Orcish units. It also has strange tattoo-like lines on its face which are common among Fel Orc textures. Finally, I found this image on the Starcraft Wiki:
http://images.wikia.com/starcraft/images/7/7b/SpaceFelOrc_WC3_Game1.jpg
(Dated 2008)
All of these seem to point to the fact that the Space Orc Marine used to be a Fel Orc, for some reason. An interesting, but probably useless fact.

By the way - did anyone actually ever get their hands on that Necropolis model?
http://www.scrollsoflore.com/gallery/albums/war3_prerelease/113.jpg
I would LOVE to have it. It looks extremely sweet.

Ujimasa Hojo, has tried to capture the vibe of the old one in one of his models.
But this some seem to have totally different textures, which really look stretched in many place

 

[Kyrbi0]

By the way - did anyone actually ever get their hands on that Necropolis model?
http://www.scrollsoflore.com/gallery/albums/war3_prerelease/113.jpg
I would LOVE to have it. It looks extremely sweet.

Yeah, Ultimata has made it his mission to physically resurrect a lot of old Beta/Alpha models. He's got a 4-tier Necropolis similar to the on you indicated, a spider-den-looking building like the one in the top left of that screenshot, and I think he has those Ziggurats, too. Some are just basically just reskins, but others he's done a lot of work one.

 

[Deolrin]

I'm more interested in that particular Necropolis model, with those same textures and all. They just look too sweet to pass up.

Also, I found this in the website linked earlier:
http://prntscr.com/1ieo96
I always suspected the Militia were somehow related to Bandits. Apparently they were more closely related than I thought!

 

[NhazUl]

The militia as seen on this screenshot were added in the early beta patches. I actually extracted the model a few days ago. Bandits did not yet exist as creeps.

About the ncropolis, now that I look at it, at least part of the textures can be found on the undead interface files.

 

[Deolrin]

The militia as seen on this screenshot were added in the early beta patches. I actually extracted the model a few days ago. Bandits did not yet exist as creeps.

Really? Could you post it here? Maybe Kyrbi0 could at least update his WC3C beta compilation. Every alpha\beta resource helps!

About the ncropolis, now that I look at it, at least part of the textures can be found on the undead interface files.

Yeah, I thought the same. But that still leaves out most of the necropolis body, which has a cool green-ish texture, not to mention that the green sludge looks a lot cooler than what we have in WC3(it's glowing radiantly and is flowing down in a sort of zig-zaggy way).

 

[NhazUl]

Here you are. It's almost identical to the bandit model.

 

[Deolrin]

Huh, but what about the texture?

 

[NhazUl]

Identical to Bandit.blp. I apparently forgot to change it.

 

[Deolrin]

It isn't on the screenshot. The shield is teamcolored and it uses the militia face. D:

 

[NhazUl]

Oh, I never bothered to convert the texture. Is this better?

 

[Deolrin]

Indeed, much better.
Thank you!

 

[NhazUl]

Since this thread has turned into something of a beta model thread, look what I found:

 

[NelsonLaJe]

Since this thread has turned into something of a beta model thread, look what I found:

oh my god, it's perfect, where you gotta find this rarity?

+REP

[EDIT]

I have a model of the Druid of The Claw Beta, but it does not have the version of bear,

can someone fix this?

 

[Ujimasa Hojo]

Hey Nhaz and Nelson, why not upload these and just mention that its Blizzards beta?

 

[Anvil]

I have a model of the Druid of The Claw Beta, but it does not have the version of bear,

can someone fix this?

Well, is not a beta model, is a recreation.