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Blizzard's Bugged Resources

Discussion in 'Modeling & Animation' started by Ujimasa Hojo, Jul 12, 2013.

  1. NelsonLaJe

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    Anyone know where can I find a model of the necromancer, and a beta version?
    I believe that the Icon is from the beta version. not?
     
  2. Ujimasa Hojo

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    As much as possible, I'm limiting "discrepancies between Alpha - Beta - Final Wc3" stuff to those seen in Models, Skins, and Icons.

    Actually, Reign of Chaos was supposed to have 6 races. It's rumored the sixth one was Goblins based on Goblin concept art stuff:

    [​IMG]

    It was reduced to 5 with the 4 ones we have plus Demons. Demons would then eventually be removed as well. I've read rumors that you can once fight the Demons as a Random AI player in earlier patches.

    Come Frozen Throne, Blizzard considered making Naga playable but backed out because of major modifications which would be required to accommodate a new race and probably balancing issues.

    All of these are a bunch of stuff I remember reading though I can't give you the original sources.
     
  3. General Frank

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    A total shame, actually.
    More diversity is always better, but considering the game industry 13 years back it would have been a total pain in the butts to balance it correctly.
     
  4. Xonok

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    //[hstt]
    //Name=Armored Transport
    //Hotkey=T
    //Tip=Train Armored |cffffcc00T|rransport
    //Ubertip="Heavily armored vehicle which can transport troops. When piloted by a Rifleman it becomes a War Wagon with a ranged attack. When piloted by a Mortar Team it becomes a Steam Tank with a siege attack. |nArmored Transports cannot attack."

    [hmtt]
    Name=Steam Tank
    Hotkey=T
    Tip=Train Steam |cffffcc00T|rank
    Ubertip="Heavily armored vehicle, effective at destroying buildings. |n|n|cffffcc00Attacks buildings.|r"

    //[hrtt]
    //Name=War Wagon

    This is from HumanUnitStrings in War3Patch.mpq
     
  5. General Frank

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    Alright. Seems reasonable.
     
  6. Kyrbi0

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    This, combined with/as well as the IFV from Red Alert 2, is the cornerstone of my custom Ironforge Alliance faction. Just too beautiful to pass up.

    Haha, yeah! I remember uploading that. So very cool; good thought, pointing out the turret as the alternate Rifleman bit.
     
  7. NhazUl

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    Indeed the steam tank had a wrecking ball, I even had the model somewhere on my pc along with other beta models, such as the tauren with ball and chain.

    Also, Blizzard hid some model animations by naming the sequences "bla". The Infernal Cannon is one example (blaSpell), while the pandaren elementals have their death and dissipate animations (need confirmation, don't have War3x.mpq at the moment) renames just "bla" and thus not displayed ingame.

    Likewise, the kodo beast (misspelled "KotoBeast") has stand animation masked as "oldStand" and "oldStand-2" in which the orc does not beat the drums.

    Abilities\Spells\Orc\Berserker\Berserkertarget.mdx is a bugged model which cannot open in most model editors. I have examined it in MDLVis though, and I think I even managed to display it in-game.

    Most orc models have Stand Hit animations, intended to play when the unit takes damage (the gate models still have such). In the beta MPQ, the orc units had grunting and groaning sounds corresponding with these animations.
     
  8. General Frank

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    Correct on the 'bla' ones.
     
  9. Shade Da Scout

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    Skeleton archer's icon is for the beta skeleton archer-with helmet
    [​IMG]
    so blizzard never made a proper icon for skeleton archer
    some proof:
    art
    [​IMG]

    ingame
    [​IMG]
    There is a better screenshot, but I can't find it...


    don't forget to add skeleton archer as a NOT PERFECT! model
    portrait with metal plates, model doesn't have metal plates
    death animation has hair and metal plates with extra green circles on shoulders
    image
    [​IMG]


    I found a picture with beta necromaner's portrait in case you want to add it
    beta necro
    [​IMG]
     
  10. General Frank

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    oh, they even had separated icons of food for each race.
     
  11. Shade Da Scout

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  12. NhazUl

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  13. Kyrbi0

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    1) Oh really? Pray tell, could you perchance find the Beta "Minotaur" model? I'd really be interested in collecting it, and I'm sure others would as well.

    2) Definitely. Actually, that would make for some easy modding; just go into Magos and rename the animations and voila, usable units.

    3) So what did it look like!?
     
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    This has turned out to be one interesting thread.
     
  15. Shade Da Scout

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    Some "theories":
    Archmage was on foot with a sword (his skin still contains a sword as a possble proof), no screenshot evidence so that was probably just an idea
    art
    [​IMG]


    Revenant was an undead unit called "death knight"
    there are many screenshots on scrollsoflore.com
    just a theory, since it says "Revenant (previously Death Knight)"
    and another one

    before lich there was a "Cold Wraith" (I guess because it's "cold")
    model
    art
    screenshot in model editor
    his death and decay spell-can't find it...cold wraith is floating in air with some red circles on ground
     
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    I was bored

    P.S. wall may seem darker for you, but works perfectly ingame (tested)
     

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  17. Xonok

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    Many things in here look much better than current version in my opinion.

    Btw, there's a model that is very similar to original archmage. http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/elvenarchcleric-48586/?prev=search%3Darchcleric%26d%3Dlist%26r%3D20
     
  18. NhazUl

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    1) The model, along with the War3 beta and other alpha models (they were not in the beta) was on my old HDD which died. I can request them from the guy who fund and collected them in the first place.

    2) Yes.

    3) It's composed of many billboarded green glow planes which rotate around a point in a quite elaborate manner. If the model were to be fixed and adorned with ribbons, it'd become something really sweet.

    Also, mind your tone, will you?

    Btw, now I notice that the shield on the War3 alpha knights uses the texture which is now on the Scroll of Protection SFX model.
     
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  19. Dr Super Good

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    The Dread Lord also still uses the original pissed sound files. The result is some of them making no sense at all.

    "This is not a dress, its the standard Dread Lord uniform."
    "Dress to kill, blah!" (kind of makes sense, but is more funny if he wore a dress)
     
  20. Shade Da Scout

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    Get 'em!Jump on 'em!
    Request him pls :cgrin:
    me wantz beta necromancer and skeletons