Beta Test

[Roland]

I will probably figure out a better way to backup the new site, so to your answer yes, but will you notice it? The plan is no.

I. Don't. Understand. What. You're. Talkin'.

 

[fladdermasken]

I. Don't. Understand. What. You're. Talkin'.

About.*



He's saying there will still be a backup required, but he will try and make it less noticable than it is now.

 

[Roland]

Oh, It's quite annoying that every backup disrupts the site's operation.

 

[Ralle]

Check out the latest version of the site!

 

[KILLCIDE]

Check out the latest version of the site!

The new Chat looks cool I love the font you used. I just didn't like how small the text/chat box was where you type your messages :*( do you think you can make it a little bit longer? Also, what is the reason you give users the option to join the main lobby? Why not just have them join automatically?

 

[Ralle]

You can auto join by bookmarking the link after joining the lobby. I plan to also make auto-join, but bookmarks works pretty well too. There will be more channels, it shouldn't be a requirement to join the lobby.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Even if we would notice it - seriously, 5 - 7 minutes a day? Dunno about the rest of you, but I can easily bear that.
Not to mention that most of the time there's a backup, I'm at work, and not around anyway.

 

[Flux]

Zooming in (using phone) messes up the web design. The Sign Up button suddenly move to the bottom of the page and the forum brief description disappear.

 

[Ralle]

That's the point. There is no room for it all next to each other.

 

[Flux]

That's the point. There is no room for it all next to each other.

Why not make it like hive 1 where it will not change positioning? Personally, I prefer to pan than have all the objects "try" to fit in the screen.

 

[Ralle]

This is the default behavior of XenForo, sorry. If something seems really stupid, we can fix it, but this is the way forward if you ask the whole internet.

 

[Flux]

This is the default behavior of XenForo, sorry. If something seems really stupid, we can fix it, but this is the way forward if you ask the whole internet.

Well I took a look again and this is what happen:
- Initially all are ok, the big 'SignUp button, new posts, new profile posts, forum statistics are in the right half panel.
- When I zoom in slightly, those objects in the right half panel got moved below after the 'Repositories' section. The forum brief description are still visible as well as the latest post in each forum
- When I zoom in further, the brief descriptions and latest posts of each forum is no longer visible. The only description I see is the time when the latest post is posted as well as Bundle numbers and comment count in the Repositories.
I don't see how this is way forward since I also ended up panning to see the forum statistics which was originally in the RHP and some information disappear.

 

[Ralle]

What kind of browser is this? Browsers shouldn't change their width when you zoom or pan. It works perfectly on my iPhone. I can zoom and it does not change. But if the viewport is too thin, the sidebar is at the bottom.

 

[Flux]

Well if it works fine for you, then I guess the problem lies in my browser. Btw, it's UCBrowser I'm using (because it is there by default and I don't wanna waste internal memory by installing a new browser)

 

[Ralle]

Hmmpf. XenForo supports all major browsers. I'd rather not have to test with even more browsers :S.

Here is someone mentioning the problem:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/33699018/uc-browser-detect-device-width-as-screen-resolution
It's a bug in UC Browser. Viewport width is implemented wrongly.

 

[Flux]

Yo Ralle, why are the skin and model section merged? And also, can you try and make a separate section for systems (unlike in hive 1 where systems are uploaded in the spell section). And also, there is no Icon Section in the beta site. Furthermore, does the Beta Site uses the same search engine hive 1 uses? I hope not.

 

[Ralle]

Please re-read the first post:

Do this while ignoring the setup of repositories. Right now the repositories are set up in a way I thought was interesting. When doing the final import of the site each resource section will become a repository.

It uses MySQL FULLTEXT just like this site does, but there is an addon we can install that I am planning on getting that uses ElasticSearch (Google it). It should be a lot better.

 

[Percivali]

will there be new themes for Hive 2? It looks pretty good btw

 

[Archian]

Yes.

 

[Percivali]

Yes.

will you tell us what themes are coming?...Or it's a secret!?

 

[Ralle]

I am not sure we are set in stone about that yet. We are focusing on everything needed to actually move the site.

 

[Percivali]

I am not sure we are set in stone about that yet. We are focusing on everything needed to actually move the site.

Good luck! Hope you finish it soon

 

[Roland]

You know when you should be finished in moving the site once the members type the "Hiveworkshop.com" It should redirect to the new site then.

 

[Ralle]

The new site will become hiveworkshop.com. Did you think we would keep roflmania.com?

 

[Roland]

How about some other links stored on the previous Hiveworkshop? Like wc3 sear > Hiveworkshop > Roflmania (Replace it to Hiveworkshop)

 

[Stefan.K]

And, please make a section for the models that are set to "needs fix".

 

[Chaosy]

And spells.
Because 80% of my stuff (that is fully working and MPI/MUI) is there.

 

[Warseeker]

I find this Beta Test for the Hive 2 very interesting! Modern, fast, and awesome btw much more to WC3 campaign but this one is much better, specially the costumization of the site
It's nice to see this new versionof the hive, but still need more adds I suppose )

Edit : I think we could use an Exp bar for Reputation (instead of points) for the Hive 2 and maybe adding new costum UI like Orcs, Undead UI, make it appear like warcraft UI. E.g : A clock above, Some constante...etc
Anyway, hope this Hive 2 Beta will turn out to be good! Good Luck

 

[Legal_Ease]

The new site will become hiveworkshop.com. Did you think we would keep roflmania.com?

Please, please, please, can we, can we?

lol, jk.

I like it. The look is nice and the forums will be the same, right? I didn't notice any problems or anything I didn't like. Can we have sections for Simple Spells, character templates, OE Spells, Simple Edits, etc?

 

[Ralle]

I like it. The look is nice and the forums will be the same, right? I didn't notice any problems or anything I didn't like. Can we have sections for Simple Spells, character templates, OE Spells, Simple Edits, etc?

I think that will be too many sections. But we can have tags for that if we want to.

 

[Chaosy]

Legal Ease made me think of ideas. What about uploading ideas such as hero designs and concepts (in its own section)? I think it would be very useful seeing how common it is to ask for such in the Idea Factory.

 

[Ralle]

I am not sure what this has to do with Hive 2. This is mostly about the technical aspects.

 

[Legal_Ease]

I am not sure what this has to do with Hive 2. This is mostly about the technical aspects.

It could always come later.

Teccnical aspects:

Pastebin won't load w3x files. Likely others.
I like the old/current forum titles "spells, models, etc" being available on the top of each page.
Resource display was a bit odd with the cover image on top. Resource being side-by-side with the image would make more sense.

Was there anything more specific we should be looking at?

Will the model viewer be available?

Also, when I uploaded an icon, it required the blp file in both BTN and DISBTN. I know it's silly but since button manager is so easy, why not have a server-side version that will just make them for the uploader?

I think that these types of tools set the hive above all other sites. That and collective knowledge of its members.

 

[SpasMaster]

I have a minor visual and thematic concern. I might be the only one, but I'll share it anyways: The predominant color in Hive 2 is Dark Gray, while in here it's a color I don't know the name of. Screenshot comparison:

Old

New

Of course, this is a minor thing, but the current color gives me a cozy and familiar feel. The darker one feels colder and... it's like it's not Hive anymore.
I'd love it if we maintain the current color theme.

 

[WhiteFang]

I feel the same as SpasMaster,though like he said it's something minor

 

[Ralle]

It could always come later.

Teccnical aspects:

Pastebin won't load w3x files. Likely others.

This is a configuration thing. The beta site is a 'stock setup', we can always add more file extensions.

I like the old/current forum titles "spells, models, etc" being available on the top of each page.

As I have said previously, this can easily be added.

Resource display was a bit odd with the cover image on top. Resource being side-by-side with the image would make more sense.

This is where the system is much more different. When you upload a resource, a so-called bundle is created. A bundle can contain multiple resources. When you press Edit, you can add more resources after submitting the first. Bundles contains screenshots and you can set a default one (for the bundle listing page) and you have a collection of them inside the bundle. Screenshots are not connected to the resources, but resources may have their own automatic images such as texture preview, icon preview and map minimap.

Was there anything more specific we should be looking at?

The chat would be nice.

Will the model viewer be available?

It is.

Also, when I uploaded an icon, it required the blp file in both BTN and DISBTN. I know it's silly but since button manager is so easy, why not have a server-side version that will just make them for the uploader?
I think that these types of tools set the hive above all other sites. That and collective knowledge of its members.

This is on my list. It won't make it for release, but I definitely want to do this. If you want to help, I would very much like Photoshop-esque layers to put on top of the stock image so I can automatically generate this.

I have a minor visual and thematic concern. I might be the only one, but I'll share it anyways: The predominant color in Hive 2 is Dark Gray, while in here it's a color I don't know the name of. Screenshot comparison:

Old

New

Of course, this is a minor thing, but the current color gives me a cozy and familiar feel. The darker one feels colder and... it's like it's not Hive anymore.
I'd love it if we maintain the current color theme.

Hmm. We are planning on adding more themes. Perhaps one of those will be more cozy. I am not planning on doing anything to the theme aside from fixing bugs and adding back the advertisements, donate and twitter buttons. After the release, we can look more into this.

 

[Legal_Ease]

The chat would be nice.

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This is on my list. It won't make it for release, but I definitely want to do this. If you want to help, I would very much like Photoshop-esque layers to put on top of the stock image so I can automatically generate this.

Would you like me to try to do this on different platforms? I have Chrome, firefox, a tablet running android, and an iphone with safari. Would any of that help?

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I can make the photoshop layers. PNG files I am assuming, but what about the blp files? Would they be get merged by a server-side application? Oh wait ... The layers must already exist in Button Manager.

Do you mean like this?

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Hive 2 Chat review Consensus: Nerf emoticons.

 

[Ralle]

Different platforms? I would just like PNG layers I can add on a stock icon to make the BTN, DISBTN, PAS, DISPAS versions.

In particular:
For BTN, it would contain the border. Simle.
DISBTN would contain a specific dark shade and complete blackness around the edges so even a BTN could be converted to a DISBTN.
For PAS, it would be similar to DISBTN but lighter.
DISPAS is the same as DISBTN I believe.

Well. The thing about the emoticons is that it uses the emoticon database from XenForo. When we move, we will bring out emoticons too. Point is, it's data, not hardcoded.

 

[Legal_Ease]

Re: Chat

Different platforms referred to the chat. Sorry for mixing that together. I could try it out on different devices and different web browsers if needed.

Re: Icons

The image in the previous post is a .png of the border with a transparent center. If this is what you want then I can make them for DISBTN, PAS, ATC, ATT, UPG and SSC. The regular ones will be easy. The disable one might be slightly tricky because I'm not sure how to find it. I will just have to experiment until it looks right.

 

[Ralle]

I have done close to 0 work on mobile devices. I will leave that to after the migration. Feel free to test it out anyway though.

Icons: I think you understand now.

 

[Legal_Ease]

BTN		DISBTN		PAS		ATC
SSH		ATT		UPG

Pastebin

Re: Mobile Devices

What about a Hive App? Is that something you would be interested in?

 

[WhiteFang]

Hive app

Anyway,took a closer look at the beta site today and it looks very cool.I really like that you can view the skins in the 3D-viewer.Great job Ralle

 

[Ralle]

BTN		DISBTN		PAS		ATC
SSH		ATT		UPG

Pastebin

Looking good! I do however think that UPG and ATT need black around them. But very nice. Do they have the proper transparency and all?

 

[Legal_Ease]

Looking good! I do however think that UPG and ATT need black around them. But very nice. Do they have the proper transparency and all?

I think the transparent parts show up as black in TFT. I don't know how it would work here since it will just get layered over an image. Some server side program would have to shrink the uploaded image to the size of the frame for those ones to fit. This goes for the SSH one too.

They are all transparent as you can see, but when they get loaded to the pastbin they get labeled as jpgs. I'm not sure I know why this is, but I assume that you do and can get the originals. If you need me to, I could put them in a .zip.

 

[Ralle]

Yeah the pastebin is stupid that way. They are actually not JPEGs. I will take them when I make this system. Thank you +rep

 

[The_Silent]

Suggestion: Remove pictures or automatically put them in hidden tags in quotes. Threads often gets huge because the same post with a picture in it is quoted 3 or more times.

 

[Warseeker]

Why they are two home tabs, and how can I rate a thread?
Also, I don't understand this, when you comment on your profile message sended by another user is it like posting on his personal profile? Well, I know he recieve notification tho

Btw, I was wondering what will happen to the original Hive Workshop site (this) when the hive beta test is finished?

 

[jonbon29]

Wow its looks refreshing and much cooler, I like it already and I didn't found anything I dislike. Can't wait to move tho

 

[Ralle]

Why they are two home tabs, and how can I rate a thread?
Also, I don't understand this, when you comment on your profile message sended by another user is it like posting on his personal profile? Well, I know he recieve notification tho

Btw, I was wondering what will happen to the original Hive Workshop site (this) when the hive beta test is finished?

All content will be moved to the new site and the old site will disappear. The new site will have the same domain name.

 

[Warseeker]

All content will be moved to the new site and the old site will disappear. The new site will have the same domain name.

Woah! this is great, I love it! But what about the members stuff (E.g : Rep / Posts counts/ Awards, etc) can they also be moved to the new site?